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Thread: Dev-Question: Signed Items (Crafted items)
Tiago said:
Hello guys.
This is Mostly a question for Devs, as i totally want this XI feature inside, so we can actually give ppl signet items by us, so they can save them and always remember who gave it to them!
In XI this method was used by a special craft crystals we could buy at a the guilds, in exchange of gil or points (i think points too), where when we used this crystal to make a synthesis, the synthesis result whould have the player name at the end of the item description. I'd love to see this introduced, so i could give ppl items signed by me and get items signed by friends, so i could save them and actually remember who gave me it, or even save it as a recollection so i whouldnt forget them and remember the fun times we had together at some point (abit dramatic maybe, but i like to remember my old adventures with friends, and that's why FFXI was so special, people whould actually miss other ppl, and share the great memories they had together with some friends, etc).
Who-ever wants this feature, could possibly like this post and also add a comment on it for more ideas of how it should work
I'm sure there are people who will like this and recall how good this was sometimes and pplthat will say its kinda stupid and that they dont care if ppl forget about them or that they ever played.
Thanks for your time, and id love to see an answer from a dev about this!
Link: http://forum.square-...rafted-items%29
A post about the good old times spent in Vanadiel and a reach out to the players to see who would love to see the return of signed items on crafted gear, what do you guys think?
FFXIV Meme's (paraphrased)
Renshi said:
AshToreth said:
Link: http://forum.square-...26-FFXIV-Meme-s
Just a few tasters from a thread that always manages to make me laugh, the FFXIV Meme thread!
Critical Analysis: Relic Weapon Seal Acquisition
Platinumstorm said:
Hello,
I'm the author of
http://forum.square-....Hamlet+defense
which I wrote after the first hamlet defense turn in.
Ever since I began working on my relic weapon I have wanted to write a new thread, but without sufficient effort behind me, I expected plenty of character assassination attempts in any such thread. Activity from the "flood" of FFXIV information would have likewise diluted and lost my message to the ever fickle blades of 2.0 grass, and other interests, responsibilities, and my aggressive traveling schedule has also kept me from writing this until now.
Where I currently stand:
5 seals
Sarnga +1 x2 meld
Effort: There's no way I could possibly know, but I've watched multiple television series and movies while blasting my mind with repetition between gathering and hamlet phases.
----------------------------
My goal before the end of 1.0 was to collect all 9 seals. I don't have a linkshell which can tackle the content afterwards, and I was pretty content with that. Ironically, the one I did try to get involved with was only interested in me if I had collected all 9 seals. Not a big deal, that's a player issue.
I've become a provisioner on multiple occasions. Thankfully, players had a lack of interest in becoming provisioners, so getting into the top 20 wasn't terribly difficult on most occasions. The top 3 is often camped by guilds where players pool together resources, hand it to one player, and then he or she turns in as much as is needed to secure a top 3 spot while rotating turns. Likewise, individuals also farm for weeks hoping to gather enough materials to turn in and secure a top 3 spot.
Failing to secure a top three spot isn't a death sentence, but it is indicative of a large waste of time. I know one person who turned in around 1 million points worth of materials only to be relegated to 4th place. I imagine during his run 20th was around 20,000 points. That situation was quite a waste of his time.
I've turned in lesser amounts of materials only to be relegated to 4th place, nothing terribly significant, but the difference is since August hamlets on my server often fail to achieve rank 2. This shouldn't surprise anyone, as the advent of the educational season in the US [my server is US heavy] and diminished interest from those who have completed their relic weapon and never want to do hamlet defense again [can't blame them].
Failure to reach rank 2 means players who are not in the top 3 have no interest in running it unless they are somehow related to the persons in the top 3 provisioning because their mind has been turned into a puddle of hamlet goop and there is no way they will be rewarded from a rank 1 hamlet, this punishes anyone who is a provisioner whether they are ranked 1 or 20 and could, in unique consequences, have devastating consequences for the top 3.
------------
Without discussing the suicidal ideation often orated from players after monotonously trudging through a day filled with hamlet defense, this presents several problems.
#1. Square will always have to monitor hamlet turn ins across x servers for the entire lifespan of the game. This is a bad idea.
#2. If left as it is as servers become more populated it will remain difficult to break into the top 3, and it will become even harder to obtain the seals through top 20 provisioning since it will be more difficult. There is no consistency in the expected rate to obtain the item because it's almost like how FFXI leveling worked - it depended on the number of people around your level range. Furthermore, if future "upgradeable" versions of relic weapons rely on hamlet defense on higher ranking, competition will, at different times, become even more fierce for the same top 20 provisioner spots. This will additionally add barriers for players who haven't obtained their original weapon relic yet.
#3. The design of obtaining the relic weapon seals focuses on time spent and not the skill level of the player. It doesn't define skilled players from unskilled players, it separates players who have varying amounts of time on their hands.
The bottom line is the method behind collecting the seals isn't fun, it doesn't make you a better player, and is decided primarily on a function of time.
When you make content a function of time you tell people to sacrifice their personal life to achieve in game goals. When this reaches a certain point, most people will default to their real life responsibilities. In many cases, this leads to players leaving a game entirely.
The highlighted problems don't foster a healthy community, and they don't nourish a flourishing player base.
My recommendation would be to revise and design content around a reasonable time commitment but with focus around epically designed content and emphasis on player skill.
----
I'm expecting a fair amount of backlash here so, we'll see how this goes. =)
Link: http://forum.square-...eal-Acquisition
An interesting take on the current Hamlet Runs content currently in XIV and how to possibly improve it in relation to Relic Progression
These a just a few of the myriad of topics that can be found on the Lodestone!
More...
Every week, a weekly round up of THE hottest gossip from the Lodestone will be posted here for your perusal, and for you to chip in if you feel so inclined and are registered!
Without further ado, here are the latest hot topics from the Lodestone this week:
Thread: Dev-Question: Signed Items (Crafted items)
Tiago said:
Hello guys.
This is Mostly a question for Devs, as i totally want this XI feature inside, so we can actually give ppl signet items by us, so they can save them and always remember who gave it to them!
In XI this method was used by a special craft crystals we could buy at a the guilds, in exchange of gil or points (i think points too), where when we used this crystal to make a synthesis, the synthesis result whould have the player name at the end of the item description. I'd love to see this introduced, so i could give ppl items signed by me and get items signed by friends, so i could save them and actually remember who gave me it, or even save it as a recollection so i whouldnt forget them and remember the fun times we had together at some point (abit dramatic maybe, but i like to remember my old adventures with friends, and that's why FFXI was so special, people whould actually miss other ppl, and share the great memories they had together with some friends, etc).
Who-ever wants this feature, could possibly like this post and also add a comment on it for more ideas of how it should work
I'm sure there are people who will like this and recall how good this was sometimes and pplthat will say its kinda stupid and that they dont care if ppl forget about them or that they ever played.
Thanks for your time, and id love to see an answer from a dev about this!
Link: http://forum.square-...rafted-items%29
A post about the good old times spent in Vanadiel and a reach out to the players to see who would love to see the return of signed items on crafted gear, what do you guys think?
FFXIV Meme's (paraphrased)
Renshi said:
AshToreth said:
Link: http://forum.square-...26-FFXIV-Meme-s
Just a few tasters from a thread that always manages to make me laugh, the FFXIV Meme thread!
Critical Analysis: Relic Weapon Seal Acquisition
Platinumstorm said:
Hello,
I'm the author of
http://forum.square-....Hamlet+defense
which I wrote after the first hamlet defense turn in.
Ever since I began working on my relic weapon I have wanted to write a new thread, but without sufficient effort behind me, I expected plenty of character assassination attempts in any such thread. Activity from the "flood" of FFXIV information would have likewise diluted and lost my message to the ever fickle blades of 2.0 grass, and other interests, responsibilities, and my aggressive traveling schedule has also kept me from writing this until now.
Where I currently stand:
5 seals
Sarnga +1 x2 meld
Effort: There's no way I could possibly know, but I've watched multiple television series and movies while blasting my mind with repetition between gathering and hamlet phases.
----------------------------
My goal before the end of 1.0 was to collect all 9 seals. I don't have a linkshell which can tackle the content afterwards, and I was pretty content with that. Ironically, the one I did try to get involved with was only interested in me if I had collected all 9 seals. Not a big deal, that's a player issue.
I've become a provisioner on multiple occasions. Thankfully, players had a lack of interest in becoming provisioners, so getting into the top 20 wasn't terribly difficult on most occasions. The top 3 is often camped by guilds where players pool together resources, hand it to one player, and then he or she turns in as much as is needed to secure a top 3 spot while rotating turns. Likewise, individuals also farm for weeks hoping to gather enough materials to turn in and secure a top 3 spot.
Failing to secure a top three spot isn't a death sentence, but it is indicative of a large waste of time. I know one person who turned in around 1 million points worth of materials only to be relegated to 4th place. I imagine during his run 20th was around 20,000 points. That situation was quite a waste of his time.
I've turned in lesser amounts of materials only to be relegated to 4th place, nothing terribly significant, but the difference is since August hamlets on my server often fail to achieve rank 2. This shouldn't surprise anyone, as the advent of the educational season in the US [my server is US heavy] and diminished interest from those who have completed their relic weapon and never want to do hamlet defense again [can't blame them].
Failure to reach rank 2 means players who are not in the top 3 have no interest in running it unless they are somehow related to the persons in the top 3 provisioning because their mind has been turned into a puddle of hamlet goop and there is no way they will be rewarded from a rank 1 hamlet, this punishes anyone who is a provisioner whether they are ranked 1 or 20 and could, in unique consequences, have devastating consequences for the top 3.
------------
Without discussing the suicidal ideation often orated from players after monotonously trudging through a day filled with hamlet defense, this presents several problems.
#1. Square will always have to monitor hamlet turn ins across x servers for the entire lifespan of the game. This is a bad idea.
#2. If left as it is as servers become more populated it will remain difficult to break into the top 3, and it will become even harder to obtain the seals through top 20 provisioning since it will be more difficult. There is no consistency in the expected rate to obtain the item because it's almost like how FFXI leveling worked - it depended on the number of people around your level range. Furthermore, if future "upgradeable" versions of relic weapons rely on hamlet defense on higher ranking, competition will, at different times, become even more fierce for the same top 20 provisioner spots. This will additionally add barriers for players who haven't obtained their original weapon relic yet.
#3. The design of obtaining the relic weapon seals focuses on time spent and not the skill level of the player. It doesn't define skilled players from unskilled players, it separates players who have varying amounts of time on their hands.
The bottom line is the method behind collecting the seals isn't fun, it doesn't make you a better player, and is decided primarily on a function of time.
When you make content a function of time you tell people to sacrifice their personal life to achieve in game goals. When this reaches a certain point, most people will default to their real life responsibilities. In many cases, this leads to players leaving a game entirely.
The highlighted problems don't foster a healthy community, and they don't nourish a flourishing player base.
My recommendation would be to revise and design content around a reasonable time commitment but with focus around epically designed content and emphasis on player skill.
----
I'm expecting a fair amount of backlash here so, we'll see how this goes. =)
Link: http://forum.square-...eal-Acquisition
An interesting take on the current Hamlet Runs content currently in XIV and how to possibly improve it in relation to Relic Progression
These a just a few of the myriad of topics that can be found on the Lodestone!
More...