Lol, IGN uses emulators

What is a emulator? *noob*
 
Like you can hook your PS to your comp and you can play it on there and they used like fraps to take a SS of it?
 
Blaine said:
An emulator is something that allows you to play Roms. Roms are just older video games, like FF7.

No, a ROM file is a data dump from a cartridge-based media upon which a Read-Only Memory chip stores data for a game.

FF7 is stored on CD media. A rip of it would be called an ISO.

An emulator is a program that makes one hardware system "pretend" to be another one.

A Macintosh or Linux user used to need Windows emulators (stuff like Wine for Linux) to run Windows programs.

A video game console emulator is a program that can interpret and run programming originally intended for a video game console (for example, a Super Nintendo or Sony PS1), with the primary intent being academic, as well as to support homebrewn applications.

Of course, once one of these is made, if the program actually works, it'll be able to run commercial game rips too, but 3D console emulators have never been perfect and probably never will be.

Take a look at the screenshot I linked. Look at the graphic for the Ration in the lower left corner.

The thread is a joking reference to the fact that the screenshot in question was obviously taken on an emulator.

As an aside, by the way, emulation software is 99% bulletproof legal. There's a small gray area with, for example, PS1 emulators, because they require a PS1 BIOS dump - which is, incidentally, ripped from a ROM chip on the PS1 mainboard - but it can be ripped from an authentic PS1 by an average joe if they just get a few simple cables that plug right into the system - without even opening it.

Other than that, at least with CD-based game systems (PS1, Saturn, 3DO, SegaCD) if you're running off the original game disc there is nothing illegal about it.

Oh, and blaine, of course I use emulators, I've been in the emulation community for almost a decade and am on a first-name basis with two people who've done extensive work on Snes9x and ZSNES...
 
that's how I played the Sailor Moon RPG for SNES back in middle school.. I don't care what any of you say. That game was the best o .o
 
Tagrineth said:
No, a ROM file is a data dump from a cartridge-based media upon which a Read-Only Memory chip stores data for a game.

FF7 is stored on CD media. A rip of it would be called an ISO.

An emulator is a program that makes one hardware system "pretend" to be another one.

A Macintosh or Linux user used to need Windows emulators (stuff like Wine for Linux) to run Windows programs.

A video game console emulator is a program that can interpret and run programming originally intended for a video game console (for example, a Super Nintendo or Sony PS1), with the primary intent being academic, as well as to support homebrewn applications.

Of course, once one of these is made, if the program actually works, it'll be able to run commercial game rips too, but 3D console emulators have never been perfect and probably never will be.

Take a look at the screenshot I linked. Look at the graphic for the Ration in the lower left corner.

The thread is a joking reference to the fact that the screenshot in question was obviously taken on an emulator.

As an aside, by the way, emulation software is 99% bulletproof legal. There's a small gray area with, for example, PS1 emulators, because they require a PS1 BIOS dump - which is, incidentally, ripped from a ROM chip on the PS1 mainboard - but it can be ripped from an authentic PS1 by an average joe if they just get a few simple cables that plug right into the system - without even opening it.

Other than that, at least with CD-based game systems (PS1, Saturn, 3DO, SegaCD) if you're running off the original game disc there is nothing illegal about it.

Oh, and blaine, of course I use emulators, I've been in the emulation community for almost a decade and am on a first-name basis with two people who've done extensive work on Snes9x and ZSNES...


Tagrineth, maybe you can help me out with them then. I really don't understand how to use the PSX emulator well... I have an FF7 emulation, but the sound effects are all funky and I have no idea how to fix that. I build computers from scratch for people, but when it comes to anything software related, I totally fail. I know virtually nothing about windows, software components, and other things like that.

In any case, yeah.. heh. How can I fix that? And is there a working PS2 emulator? Curious... hehe..
 
Mistra said:
Tagrineth, maybe you can help me out with them then. I really don't understand how to use the PSX emulator well... I have an FF7 emulation, but the sound effects are all funky and I have no idea how to fix that. I build computers from scratch for people, but when it comes to anything software related, I totally fail. I know virtually nothing about windows, software components, and other things like that.

Ah, the joys of 3D console emulation. This question will probably earn this thread a lock, since you're now pushing this into actual questions about commercial game emulation =/ Unless you're running a legally bought copy of FF7 and ripped your own PS1's bios...

Anyway, 3D console emulators are an extreme pain in the ass. Check epsxe.com (should still be up I think) for sound plugins. PS1 sound emulation sucks in general, anyway...

In any case, yeah.. heh. How can I fix that? And is there a working PS2 emulator? Curious... hehe..

Yes, there's a rather excellent functional PS2 emulator out there.

Oh wait, did you mean for commercial games?
 
I really wouldn't say bulletproof legal, without adding what makes it bulletproof. You must own the game, or it's become abandonware. The same reason MP3s aren't illegal, but you'd get in a shit ton of trouble for pirating them if you don't own the albums the commercial songs are from.

Abandonware, for those not in the know, is software or hardware that is no longer supported in present day. Such as the Super Nintendo console, and Sega Genesis games.
 
Skaw said:
I really wouldn't say bulletproof legal, without adding what makes it bulletproof. You must own the game, or it's become abandonware. The same reason MP3s aren't illegal, but you'd get in a shit ton of trouble for pirating them if you don't own the albums the commercial songs are from.

Abandonware, for those not in the know, is software or hardware that is no longer supported in present day. Such as the Super Nintendo console, and Sega Genesis games.
He was refering to the software that does the actual emulation, not the games themselves. Emulators do not break any copyright laws (well you could agrue their names being similar).

I could perfectly legally make my own "snes" game and run it on an emulator without breaking any laws.

edit: Abandonware isn't legal either, it's just a safe bet that the company won't sue you or charge damages. Couldn't make out from your post if you were saying abandonware is ok or not.
 
Skaw said:
I really wouldn't say bulletproof legal, without adding what makes it bulletproof. You must own the game, or it's become abandonware. The same reason MP3s aren't illegal, but you'd get in a shit ton of trouble for pirating them if you don't own the albums the commercial songs are from.

Abandonware, for those not in the know, is software or hardware that is no longer supported in present day. Such as the Super Nintendo console, and Sega Genesis games.

Skaw, I was saying that running your own storebought game on an emulator is bulletproof. =)

Abandonware isn't legal, it's just largely ignored by its parent company. SNES games do not, in fact, count as Abandonware because SNES ROM sites have in fact been policed in recent years. I've seen dozens go down because of IDSA CAD notices, and good old Cherryroms was forced to take down a number of games by the IDSA.
 
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