LOL OH STEAL KIRIN FROM BOL!!!

[Zoolander]

From what I understood he slept it and while Landstar was on the way to help it was voked by your LS and taken(no drop supposedly). If the topic is LS morality in general I find it merely hypocritical to be so judgemental of taking a NM that was about to depop, while someone posting here about it was actually there last night(Not you but I'll let Shuitou or Landstar say who if they wish) and witnessed their own LS stealing from a still living person.

No it's not as important as Kirin but Kirin to BoL was gone because they had lost and it was going to depop. They didn't lose anything from our actions but this incident actually was by any logic considered stealing.

I wasnt there so calling me a hypocrite is moronic and as i stated i dont support stealing, however from ur description it sounds like stalling to me. either way this has nothing to do with the current topic so stop trying to use it to support ur arguement against me and come up with some real ammo.

 

[yanzi]

In my oppinion reality was just having fun, he didn't help bol to help bol, he helped cause he was bored and wanted to shoot stuff, as coh said he helped us too. Also yanzi, I remember you saying you had no whms, unless I misread (which I very well might of =P ) you were in no condition to fight kirin, also you were not in our shoes.

if reality can kite a turtle, i'm sure whatever valks was up there could have kited whatever mobs were popped until the rest of us got up there. it's not that difficult. point is, valks could have claimed and did what OH did but valks didn't.

 

[nooborz]

allright

was the osode offered as well? bec. i just read bout the pole being offered. i dunno help me out just tyring to figure it out..

 

[cohibuu]

Re: /laugh

so then it was cohibuu that was afraid of making ure LS look bad and a have a bad rep bec. of your post. and as co-leader Cohibuu thought it was the right thing to do. this shit would have never happend. daveman would have not have a bad rep if leaders in LS would have told members to stand down and help the dead.. but i guess leaders mind too weak.. oops typo mind too greedy

 

[cohibuu]

Re: /laugh

so then it was cohibuu that was afraid of making ure LS look bad and a have a bad rep bec. of your post. and as co-leader Cohibuu thought it was the right thing to do. this shit would have never happend. daveman would have not have a bad rep if leaders in LS would have told members to stand down and help the dead.. but i guess leaders mind too weak.. oops typo mind too greedy

BOL wiped. OH took Kirin. OK thats fine.

damn i suck at quoting. but it seems me and villarel thinking the same. i didntlike how people in my ls bragged about it afterwards as that was going to far so i asked them to stop and remove their posts

 

[alanon]

Sunday has been our time always, if we showed up on Saturdays it was because we had extra seals and no one was using the room.

So are you saying that BoL can take the 1-7 Saturday slot?

 

[cohibuu]

In my oppinion reality was just having fun, he didn't help bol to help bol, he helped cause he was bored and wanted to shoot stuff, as coh said he helped us too. Also yanzi, I remember you saying you had no whms, unless I misread (which I very well might of =P ) you were in no condition to fight kirin, also you were not in our shoes.

if reality can kite a turtle, i'm sure whatever valks was up there could have kited whatever mobs were popped until the rest of us got up there. it's not that difficult. point is, valks could have claimed and did what OH did but valks didn't.

you could have stalled genbu byakko suzaku and kirin with 5 members?

 

[Daveman]

In my oppinion reality was just having fun, he didn't help bol to help bol, he helped cause he was bored and wanted to shoot stuff, as coh said he helped us too. Also yanzi, I remember you saying you had no whms, unless I misread (which I very well might of =P ) you were in no condition to fight kirin, also you were not in our shoes.

if reality can kite a turtle, i'm sure whatever valks was up there could have kited whatever mobs were popped until the rest of us got up there. it's not that difficult. point is, valks could have claimed and did what OH did but valks didn't.

Ok, ok, lets say you were in a condition to fight. You still weren't fully in our shoes you have to think about everything goin through our minds, and the group mentality going on. I never said it was the right thing, I'm only saying we're not theives or low lives as some people *cough* nooborz *cough* are trying to make it look like.

 

[cohibuu]

Re: allright

was the osode offered as well? bec. i just read bout the pole being offered. i dunno help me out just tyring to figure it out..

and why do you need to figure out? ur not in this server right?

 

[Firestreak]

I'm not calling you a hypocrite specifically i'm calling another member of your LS a hypocrite who spoke words like yours and then went and did that. As you have taken the actions of some of us to paint a poor picture on our LS as the whole I am compelled to do the same as you.

Squaresoft has already implemented an anti-stalling mechanism. From the claim you get only a certain amount of time to kill the NM before it grows in strength tremendously and it is impossible to kill. I could argue with you more but it wasn't you who were there as you said so it's not fair to target you for what you don't know about.

 

[Elemmire]

Firestreak.. we've been over this.. NMs on land are nothing like gods in the sky XD anyways.. it is interesting to see that daveman just said they were hoping for a second Kirin and had arguments with BoL when they were gonna pop the second kirin. Thus confirming what BoL was saying about OH popping a second Kirin pressuring them to pop theirs.. But the question does remain if there really was a "1 kirin pop for BoL and OH" agreement kinda thing. And anyways... I agree with daveman.. and as I posted a few pages back.. I'm very willing to forgive. But I never forget. Finally... I think we all really need to come to an agreement on times. So far.. I say that BoL should get Sunday afternoons if that truly is good for them cause EVERY other LS in sky has a nice time for them to do kirin as you can see from the list and only takes up one day with at the most.. 6 hours or so. Let's just put arguing aside and work on atleast some sorta communication between linkshells and making sure everyone gets a fair shot at one thing or another.

 

[nooborz]

yep

ya im in the right server.. Quetzalcoatl.. and no LS that i have heard of has done this in my other server that i play in.

 

[yanzi]

In my oppinion reality was just having fun, he didn't help bol to help bol, he helped cause he was bored and wanted to shoot stuff, as coh said he helped us too. Also yanzi, I remember you saying you had no whms, unless I misread (which I very well might of =P ) you were in no condition to fight kirin, also you were not in our shoes.

if reality can kite a turtle, i'm sure whatever valks was up there could have kited whatever mobs were popped until the rest of us got up there. it's not that difficult. point is, valks could have claimed and did what OH did but valks didn't.

you could have stalled genbu byakko suzaku and kirin with 5 members?

i doubt there were only 5.

 

[Watchyourstep]

36 Pages of straight rumors, bullshit, and greed for the past fukin 2 hrs I been reading this. And where was I? Well I work, and 1st and foremost, a straight apology to my crew who had to go through this experience, and a very big apology that I wasnt there to experience/went thru this situation.

Lets get the facts straight, #1 I wasn't there, but I am already very aware of what went on, happened, and how it was handled. 1st off, I have never bashed/degraded or talked badly about OH, EVER on these boards, nor the people who represent OH. So in quite honestly and all fairness, I am very surprised to see the comments of ppl (weither or not your defending), and the 2-faceness thats came out.

So.. wow.. BoL Wiped.. WE WIPED!!!! WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK. So what now? every LS that attempts anything or any event, fi they wipe, are gonna get flamed about it?

Theres so many quotes I coulda took, but it would be a straight waste of my time, camping this flameboard, so I'll jsut use 1 as a simple example :

If we didn't take kirin they would of wiped, the kirin would of been lost. Can you blame us for taking it when it was obvious they were dead? We took advantage of the situation, and all immature comments aside we didn't hurt bol in any way*. The only people who got "hurt" by us taking the kirin was Valks who had to start their own kirins a bit later than if we let it depop.

*as for us causing them to rush pop it, it's not our fault kirin was popped with half of BoL afk, we didn't cause the wipe to happen.

Dave your an idiot for posting that. SOOOO I guess if this is a new foundation in sky, I think EVERY God LS should camp every other NA God LS pop day, so that way if they wipe, its open game, and the other God LS can take Kirin? GIVE ME A FUKIN BREAK. Have some class for god's sakes. For the past months now, I've already put me foot down on hard rules, and procedures that ALL my men follow.. Glad to see Prophecy could give 2 shits about his. Its not a common thing for someone to leave a LS for another, but its funny because I know how badly OH tries to recruite BoL members, so obviously BoL "doesnt" suck so bad now do we?

And who cares how many Kirin sets we have, even if we had 1 or 100, ITS OUR SETS. From what I know, we came to an "agreement" that BoL could pop Kirin after OH's 1st, and that Should have been that. So lemme get this right now.. Kirin is classified as a Land HNM now? LOL, ok :

Big Difference between the 2 :

1. Kirin is "Pop"
2. Land HNMs are "not"

Where the hell was the respect in all this? Big ups to my people who showed enough respect the 1st time around and let OH pop. I even remember couple times Saechan and Cohibu helped when we poped Kirin, so where the hell did all this go wrong? Im pretty sure dumb bitches like Moev added fuel to the fire during the whole situation, beacuse for some obvious reason, she likes to eat, sleep, and harass BoL lol.. listen honey if you wanted our autographs so badly, you could just ask.

So in all fairness, apologies BoL for not being there, but thank you for handling the situation well. We wiped.. we wiped.. oh well.. I guess its time for us to go slit our wrists now huh? keep doing what you guys are doing. Learn from this experience guys/gals but don't let it lower your moral, because I fucking GUARENTEE if the situation was reversed.. I would have told BoL to lend a helping hand to OH, and assist them in any fashion (and my guys know I'm right), to bad we were'nt shown the same curtiosy.

And thanks Proph, for being a straight up dick about the situation, I wonder why ppl are leaving OH day by day, and even your own members tell me, but I could careless.. its none of my business how you run your LS, but being a dictator won't take you far. So consider it a fair warning, don't let shit hit the fan old buddy, because from everything I heard, not much respect for you I have left.

Happy hunting, enjoy the gifts :roll:

 

[Damita]

Sheesh...

Let me start by saying I'm in OH. For those that know me, I'm fairly neutral in everything.

This time I'm not, and I'm sure I'm going to get flamed. Hell here's my opinion and viewpoint.

To start, I wasn't there to see exactly what happened. I got there late... Anyway, it seems the consencious is that it was a wipe. BoL wiped. I haven't heard anybody say that the OH members caused the wipe or contributed to the wipe. From there out it really doesn't matter.

Ask yourself this...
Let's replace Kirin with Ulli. You spend your time (and that's what seals are... Time), and you get the claim amongst the other 30 folks hanging around. Now while you got Ulli, you wipe...

Are you going to tell me that everybody is going to raise your party or alliance's dead asses so you can proceed to finish killing him?

If you say yes, you're either naive or you're one of the few bastions of chilvary left in the world. Don't get me wrong... There are some folks like that in the game, but not a whole lot.

Anyway, I'm truly sorry that the wipe occured. I never root against anybody else. (Except that bastage Ailia) But guys suck it up, learn from it, and move on...

As far as the continuing thought of helping one another out... That would be great. But that unfortunately is not reality. Look at how many grudges the major shells have against each other.

We can't even co-operate to help each other camp the Kings. And nowdays we don't neccessarily need to.

 

[Villarel]

In my oppinion reality was just having fun, he didn't help bol to help bol, he helped cause he was bored and wanted to shoot stuff, as coh said he helped us too. Also yanzi, I remember you saying you had no whms, unless I misread (which I very well might of =P ) you were in no condition to fight kirin, also you were not in our shoes.

if reality can kite a turtle, i'm sure whatever valks was up there could have kited whatever mobs were popped until the rest of us got up there. it's not that difficult. point is, valks could have claimed and did what OH did but valks didn't.

you could have stalled genbu byakko suzaku and kirin with 5 members?

i doubt there were only 5.

Yeah we were 4: Reality, Laur, Ayapon, me

 

[CubsWoo]

Re: yep

ya im in the right server.. Quetzalcoatl.. and no LS that i have heard of has done this in my other server that i play in.

Hi Ujio.

 

[yanzi]

In my oppinion reality was just having fun, he didn't help bol to help bol, he helped cause he was bored and wanted to shoot stuff, as coh said he helped us too. Also yanzi, I remember you saying you had no whms, unless I misread (which I very well might of =P ) you were in no condition to fight kirin, also you were not in our shoes.

if reality can kite a turtle, i'm sure whatever valks was up there could have kited whatever mobs were popped until the rest of us got up there. it's not that difficult. point is, valks could have claimed and did what OH did but valks didn't.

Ok, ok, lets say you were in a condition to fight. You still weren't fully in our shoes you have to think about everything goin through our minds, and the group mentality going on. I never said it was the right thing, I'm only saying we're not theives or low lives as some people *cough* nooborz *cough* are trying to make it look like.

i'm sure the group mentality went something like this:
OMG, i haven't been on QCDN flameboard in awhile, let's get on!
LIKE OMG, LET'S DO IT!
I'm gonna go get a beer!
Right on brother!!!

 

[Valesken]

I shouldn't waste my time writing this, but today's maintenance isn't done yet and I have nothing better to do... Alors voilà :

Stop crying and leave your HNMLS if you can't deal with all this crap. I left every single one I joined so far because of crappy situations like this...

Result? I'm the only level 75 WHM I know without a Noble's tunic. Wow, big deal... IT'S JUST A GAME. And I haven't sold my soul yet!

I can't believe how bad some of you became with all this HNMLS stuff, come on... I used to respect most of you - anyone remember the good old days, before we reached level 75 on our first job?. What the hell have you become?

OH "stealing" Kirin could have been an extremely nice move... they were there for the fight, and got it. It seems they saved BoL's pop and got what they came for... Why not just pop their Kirin after and let BoL have it?

You may say I'm a dreamer, but hopefully I'm not the only one...

My 2¢

 

[Firestreak]

I don't know if anyone has Saturday regulary scheduled. We go saturday sometimes but we've also showed up on Saturday and had to wait as much as 2 kirins while a Japanese LS killed him. But Sunday slow has been our regular. As far as any other days you'll have to get something step in stone from the leaders because the only LS we ever had to work out Kirin times with were Valkyrs and the rest of them just didn't come Sunday.