I'll say it one more time :\ Kirin is nothing like Ulli or any other NM or HNM that is popped because of a server. You could not kill the statues at all and eventually he will pop. However.. you sit in that room where kirin is popped and he'll NEVER pop unless you make it happen. You have to spend all this time to fight Ulli, MG, etc for 8 items to fight 4 gods. 2 items per god. You know this very well, Damita. Then you must kill the four gods to get a seal from each God. That's a total of 12 items needed in total to make Kirin pop. OH did not help at all with getting those 12 items to make that kirin pop that they killed. So there's the big difference and my only problem. But since BoL is appearantly going to recieve something of such value or a pop set or whatnot.. there really should be no problem I think. And anyways... we might as well put the arguing aside and just work together on making it so we all get a shot at things.
(nothin against ya damita

just was posting why I don't like that argument of replacing kirin with a NM like Ulli)