Shaunessy said:
So SE posts stats on those forums? Funny I've never seen them. You can't use hearsay and consider it a good reference. When SE comes out with stats saying how many people were banned for what abuse, then I will look at the stats and accept them. But if that ever happens then that would mean there is that many less cheaters on those servers. So essentially that whole argument that Quetzy is better for not having them is flawed. I said before, it's like the gilseller accusations, but with this if they truly are cheating in a way that can be distingiushed, then why would the people that see this just not call a GM and report it? Now I don't hold GMs in the highest repect for upholding the ToS, but they will do something if it is a blatant cheat. They can see that stuff happening.
So, because it's not SE saying "we banned these people for hacking," the people who admit to it are lying and you're not even going to even bother doing research? As has been said already, there is nothing for them to gain by saying "yeah, i was using a bot" when they weren't. It's called logic, but you tend to fail at that based on your post history. You'd think the fact that everyone else treats it as "fact" without question might mean that it could be true, rather than I'm just lying; but there's logic again and we all know how good you are with that.
Second, I have reported to GM's for gil sellers blatantly hacking right in front of me, it took one-two calls every day for a week for them to even do anything. At no point did I refer to them as gil sellers when I called th GM, I just said "so and so is doing this, which is not possible without some kind of third-party program." They didn't do shit for the longest time, so stop acting like we're just blackballing people without a shred of proof. The gil sellers were using blatant cheats, the GM's did nothing; again you're takling about something you know nothing about.
You don't want to believe that anyone uses hacks or that gil sellers exist until you see them? Fine, do that. But stay out of discussions that you know nothing about and are refusing to even bother researching.
Also, stop following me around and claiming everything I say is bullshit, even though it's funny to watch as it's thrown in your face every time you try. I get it, you don't like me because I keep proving you wrong, but seriously give it up, it's getting annoying. I have first-hand experience with stuff that you won't get to for months; and you're acting like you know more about it than I do, for no reason other than you don't like me. Get to endgame, then you can talk about endgame; or stay out of endgame and shut the fuck up about it, I don't care which you do but you're only making yourself look worse by continuing to talk about things you know nothing about.