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[Nyett]

I didn't see you complaining when the shell wanted to give out a free speed belt

Actually I wasn't there that day and yes I was against it. But thanks for assuming again.

you might have earned them in Affinity, but you certainly didn't earn them in SeaShell. Must be nice to ask someone to pass on an item when you knew you didn't earn it.

I never asked them to pass, they did it themselves. I very much detest the whole situation cause it created tension with a person who I always enjoyed
playing with. You didnt have access to the leader forum, you have no idea what I said regarding this situation. But go ahead with all these assumptions, I miss talking to them a lot more than talking to you.

Drops are dependent on being able to pop gods, while drops in dynamis are shear luck.

Oh, I didnt know drops from gods were 100% now.... I appologize Lavi, your completely correct.

I bet it didn't have anything to do with shitty leadership and complete greed.

Actually it had everything to do with leadership. I personally didnt expect a leadership role to be so overwhelming time wise and I quickly learned that the job wasnt for me. As more leaders had less time due to RL, shell holder couldnt cope and yes the shell broke. Whats your point?

 

[Lavi]

Actually I wasn't there that day and yes I was against it. But thanks for assuming again.



I never asked them to pass, they did it themselves. I very much detest the whole situation cause it created tension with a person who I always enjoyed
playing with. You didnt have access to the leader forum, you have no idea what I said regarding this situation. But go ahead with all these assumptions, I miss talking to them a lot more than talking to you.

Then why didn't you say anything? Seriously. If you disagreed, why didn't you say "It's unfair for you to get a juggy, but it was also unfair to allow others to get a speed belt". I never once heard anything like that from anyone. Instead, I heard "You're greedy", "It's not my decision", "i'm not a leader" (last two were from the same guy who chose to give away the speed belt), etc. All I was told was excuses, but none of it was really what should have been said. No one for one second denounced lotting speed belts, but instead attacked me asking the same opportunity. So it was entirely acceptable, but not so long as I was asking. I could have been fine if someone had said it, but not a single person did. Say all you want to about me, but when it comes down to it, none of you could even do the right thing when it matters.

Here's a quick idea: Pass. No one forced you to lot and no one could. You still lotted nonetheless which is basically the same thing as agreeing. So you can say all you want to about "secret" conversations in a forum no one has access to, but it all amounts to nothing because you still lotted over someone, your friend even, who deserved it far more than you did. By the way, I can say I've been in similar situations where I felt I didn't deserve the item and I can tell you I passed.

 

[Kerowynn]

Eh maybe you guys should go to the flameboard with this. I don't really think it belongs in this thread...

 

[Lavi]

Oh, I didnt know drops from gods were 100% now.... I appologize Lavi, your completely correct.

Stop editing damnit. 100% doesn't matter.
1) There is a better chance with 2 sets instead of 1, 3 sets instead of 2, etc.
2) Something is guaranteed to drop (or should be, it's rare to get nothing).

No matter how you look at it, the shell should get something out of it, it only takes a little work and takes nothing away from your members except time. Again, you don't lose or gain anything from saying no, but you don't lose anything by saying yes and you stand to gain a little as well which is all that matters. What if your shell needs A.Hands and Genbu's Shield and someone presents this situation to you? Lose out on A.hands for a chance at the shield? Or not bother and gain neither, progressing no further?

I am not suggesting this should be a common occurance, but some people do have random pop items for whatever reason. If it becomes a common occurance, it takes away from sky shells who take the time to farm, but lose out to small time competition who are just mercing anyways.

 

[Nyett]

Then why didn't you say anything?

I did. I even sent you /t's the day you left and wished you luck but you dont remember those things. You also dont know about conversations occuring after the fact about the situation.

No one for one second denounced lotting speed belts,

I just told you that I did.

but it all amounts to nothing because you still lotted over someone, your friend even

Umm, they out lotted me. Arguing with you is a dead end street, you cant even remember what happened. Good luck to you.

 

[Nyett]

Eh maybe you guys should go to the flameboard with this. I don't really think it belongs in this thread...

I'm done and am quite upset at myself. I really should have known better than to argue with Lavi.

 

[shmedly]

I'm not judging you at all dude and your right, at least you asked. Just giving some perspective from a blm who had to wait and to not expect zenith mitts to come easily.



And I look forward to reading it.

Sorry, I guess I took it a little wrong and went into defense mode.

Yeah, i've been involved in the death of Genbu quite a few times and not much ever dropped off his stingy backside. I've heard stories of 20-30 kills and no A.Hands dropping, but i've also heard stories of 4/5 in a night. Only time will tell if I get them or not.

Peace,
Shmed

 

[Lavi]

Last post on the subject. If you did, you obviously don't show it. Ever since I left, everyone, even the people who I didn't expect and even respected for being good people/players, held it against me. Even now, you use it against me in the very first reply to me when I didn't even attack you. (All I was doing was showing you the similarities, I meant nothing by it.) So say as much as you want, but you really didn't care. You felt and still do that asking for a juggy was greedy and I would agree with you if not for the speed belt or if someone had for one moment said that both instances were unfair and not just mine. No one did. So hold it against me, but I did nothing wrong. I asked for fairness, I got none and left angry. Was I for an instant wrong? Then why does everyone constantly hold it against me?

 

[Audino]

Lavi, cut the shit you loser. Get it through your head that it was never about leaderships AF. It was about how leadership stopped showing up and everything virtually got dumped on me. For things that I didn't have total control over, I got shat on by all the pissy members like you. If I was going to be put in that situation then it was going to be in a system I believed in and not one I had to pretend to. I showed up for just as long as you did and probably more and for the last 6 months it was only because I knew no one else would.

You earned your chance to lot the gear if it dropped, which you had and it did, but you didn't lot. Every time a shell breaks you cry because you didn't get everything you wanted. Shit happens and shit doesn't revolve around you. You need to learn to live with your own fucking mistakes.

But keep trying to trash my shell and I, because every time you do I get more and more applicants when they realize I don't let people like you in.

 

[Neolink]

Legendary quotes:

Lavi, cut the shit you loser.

I got shat on

Every time a shell breaks you cry because you didn't get everything you wanted.

No personal attacks.

#1 rule for right now: no personal or linkshell attacks are permitted. If you have a problem with a linkshell, try the Flameboard.

 

[Audino]

Thanks, Neo.

Isn't there something about flame-baiting too? Lavi loves bringing up my shell every time it posts.

Just so everyone else knows, Neolink is another one of those people just crazy about me.

 

[K. Ishitar]

Funny how you are the one full of shit that's why you have no one to back you up

I took this just to humor you

 

[Kerowynn]

Funny how you are the one full of shit that's why you have no one to back you up

I took this just to humor you

I would keel you, but I'm afraid I'm just too busy stalking other people at the moment. I'll get back to you next week. Live in fear until then k?

 

[Lavi]

Lavi, cut the shit you loser. Get it through your head that it was never about leaderships AF. It was about how leadership stopped showing up and everything virtually got dumped on me. For things that I didn't have total control over, I got shat on by all the pissy members like you. If I was going to be put in that situation then it was going to be in a system I believed in and not one I had to pretend to. I showed up for just as long as you did and probably more and for the last 6 months it was only because I knew no one else would.

You earned your chance to lot the gear if it dropped, which you had and it did, but you didn't lot. Every time a shell breaks you cry because you didn't get everything you wanted. Shit happens and shit doesn't revolve around you. You need to learn to live with your own fucking mistakes.

But keep trying to trash my shell and I, because every time you do I get more and more applicants when they realize I don't let people like you in.

The only shell besides Affinity which broke was TDS, I wasn't around when Seashell broke. It's ironic to state you didn't believe in the system and yet you joined and used the system all the same. Go ahead and state it was an unfair system, but you didn't mind while it was getting you gear, but you did when it stopped, right? Right.

And I didn't flamebait, Nyet did. You can go back and check, but all I did was compare his actions to his statement. I didn't make the initial attack, I just replied. If he took at that, that wasn't my intention; however, my initial point was and is still valid to the debate.

 

[Audino]

I always had the choice to go somewhere else if I didn't like it and yeah, I could have. I stayed to help my friends out and to have fun with them. When all the pressure started coming down on me, thats when it wasn't fun. Nothing to do with gear, but we've gone over this before.

On topic, my offer still stands for Shmed. As much as I hate too, I agree with Lavi that sky =/= to dynamis. Lets not forget SE restricts you to one run per 72 hours whereas in sky the only thing that restricts you between events is your LS's calendar.

 

[Nyett]

And I didn't flamebait, Nyet did.

Actually it started by accusing me of being a merc, which I am not and take offense to. Do you call someone who cuts one piece of wood a carpenter? No.

Then the crap balloned from there. Flame TDS and seashell all you want, I know the people from those shells and they deserve more credit than you give them. Seriously Lavi, just let it go.

 

[K. Ishitar]

I would keel you, but I'm afraid I'm just too busy stalking other people at the moment. I'll get back to you next week. Live in fear until then k?

I'll make my daily sacrifices to my own Kerowynn shrine just to make sure I avert your wrath

 

[Lavi]

Actually it started by accusing me of being a merc, which I am not and take offense to. Do you call someone who cuts one piece of wood a carpenter? No.

Then the crap balloned from there. Flame TDS and seashell all you want, I know the people from those shells and they deserve more credit than you give them. Seriously Lavi, just let it go.

You're the one who intentionally set out to drudge up bad memories. I meant nothing by the merc comment(you should know that), but you did merc a run with Hrono, I am positive of that. I just find it ironic that you can understand mercing a BCNM (perhaps you don't agree with it), but you don't see how you can merc a god.

I deserved a lot more credit too. After all the help, all the time and effort I gave for all my shells, the end result was too much to ask for to be treated equally. It didn't matter if you apologized for making a mistake or actually fixing the mistake, but in the end it's me being greedy for asking to get what the next guy gets without question.

 

[Rhaddy]

wtf is this thread.

 

[Blazeoffury]

A. Hands drop from Kirin now?

Sounds interesting.. if it makes the drop rate higher...... go for it!!