Loose Change

Y'know i hate to be an insensitive bitch, but even assuming that it was indeed a big conspiracy...who really cares? Its not like it changes anything.

Even should you somehow find proof that your government is corrupt, what then? Nothing i believe is the answer, because there isn't really anything you can do.

Don't get me wrong its interesting enough to think about the possibility, but i just got the feeling that some people thought it was new for the government to lie to the peons, or that thanks to these videos they now see the "light" and will single handedly take down the government.
 
Rinoah said:
Y'know i hate to be an insensitive bitch, but even assuming that it was indeed a big conspiracy...who really cares? Its not like it changes anything.

Even should you somehow find proof that your government is corrupt, what then? Nothing i believe is the answer, because there isn't really anything you can do.

Don't get me wrong its interesting enough to think about the possibility, but i just got the feeling that some people thought it was new for the government to lie to the peons, or that thanks to these videos they now see the "light" and will single handedly take down the government.

If enough people believe and try to do something about it then anything is possible. After watching those Alex Jones videos, I'm going to stay away from banks, stores, etc that use any kind of ID other than picture ID cards... and I refuse to have any microchips put into me or my children and if any military raids my house and calls it "training" I won't take it lightly.
 
I have to live in a Republican bubble not to think something weird happened that day.
 
Trippyhippy said:
But I must ask if you watched the entire 1 hour 44 minute video. There were a lot of interesting theories in there. Also, the guy in the video never says "The government did this to us.", he just points out that a plane hitting those buildings would be very unlikely to make it fall, and gives his reasons, some of which are based on scientific evidence.
I watched all of loose change the first time and came out. I watched the first 30 mins of the second video, but that's all I had time for. Surely you have spied one of the dozen documenteries put out by the history channel going into excruiating detail on how the buildings collapsed. They walk through 3d models explaining what was hit, what the fuel damaged, what the impact damaged, and what caused the buidling to finally collapse.

Found the video on wtc7 here. I've seen it in on tv, but don't know of an internet source. They explain what happened in far more accurate scientific detail than any conspiracy sight will do (because too much science disproves them).
Engineering discussion on the collapse of WTC towers.
More Discussion.
Even more froma blast engineer.
Wikipedia information collection. (has tons of sources and references at the bottom)
There is overwhelming evidence and scientific studies on how and why the towers fell. If there were explosions going off on the lower floors people would have reported that. Remember, the tower was full of civilians trying to escape. He can make all the nice theories he want, but science proves him wrong.
 
I want to mention something Rones said in the old thread.

Rones said:
Ah might as well. Their attempt to discredit the cell phone calls is funny. If the 4th plane was redirected and taken elsewhere, people would have said so in their cell phone calls. Instead they reported exactly what we saw happen. The video then goes on to say cell phones don't work in the air and try to cite some scientific study by only reporting numbers but not supplying context. FYI, cell phones do usually work while in flight. Signal might cut out, but they are required to be kept off because they might interfere with the equipment. If you really think they don't work, ask a flight attendent who has trouble getting people to keep their phones off for the whole flight. I sat next to someone using one on my last flight to Utah.

People are only allowed to not use their electronics while the plane is on the ground and while it's taking off. Once they are at a certain elevation everyone is allowed to use their crap.

The video simply mentioned that before a certain date, cell phones had a very very low chance of working at the elevation the plane was at. The plane I was recently on had special phones behind each seat. I've never seen those on planes before.
 
Actually, no, Cell Phones are not allowed at any time on a normal flight. Portable electronics like DVD players and laptops are allowed once it's in the air, but cell phones can still mess with instrumentation quite heavily.
 
They have special phones on the planes that you can use.
 
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