Ls Vs ls, Why?

[Hmkiroko]

Fafnir's not hard to camp. Not hard to kill. Not hard to compete at. But unfortunately the children with no responsibility or maturity got there first while the average were bound in other obligations. The throne of immaturity they set up will have to be knocked down before endgame really emproves, because to many of them it's not a game. It's an entitlement.

Where are you then up there? Gather 20 of your friends and go! It's so easy! You too could have a shot at fame.

I think you toot your own horn way to much.

 

[neophytal]

Fafnir's not hard to camp. Not hard to kill. Not hard to compete at. But unfortunately the children with no responsibility or maturity got there first while the average were bound in other obligations. The throne of immaturity they set up will have to be knocked down before endgame really emproves, because to many of them it's not a game. It's an entitlement.

sup DYNAMISONRYLEADER

 

[Blazeoffury]

Pere if Faf is so easy, and apparently Nid is to since as you said the average player is the same as the elite, how come these average players arent walking around in Adman Hauberks, where are the average players with their ridills? I dont see any full koenig average players. Besides where's your ridill? You supposedly made 4 of them drop, noone has any idea who you did it with because OH never got 4 ridills, so please, enlighten us on whom you got these 4 ridills with. Did you make it up so GameFaqs would think your a better person/player then you really are. So, unless you can prove me wrong, quit bluffing and saying everything is so "Easy" because i have yet to see you kill a king, to see you kill Tiamat, to see you rip apart Vrtra, if it is all so easy, where are you? Go to GameFaqs, maybe people will like you there, because everyone here knows your full of lies.

 

[meeze]

sup DYNAMISONRYLEADER

In dynamis it is ok to act like an elite jack ass. It's funny how he can make the connection with faf being easier to kill, but doesn't realize how much of a cakewalk dynamis is.

It isn't so much that the average players are flooding, it is that average players can benefit from the elite by taking their strats which have made most events that have been around a while look like farming for rabbit hides in w. ron.

average players waited, now they can get. But they will still be waiting on the newer stuff because as it stands now, most of it is still too dificult for them to get into with their limited time.

As long as new content is added, there will always be the elite with the gear first, while the average wait till it can be handed to them on a silver platter.

 

[Courtney]

Fafnir isn't actually that hard to kill. You do have to understand combat mechanics though, and it's amazing how many groups go there and wipe because they have no interest in the basics...

It is hard to compete for though. There is a huge jump for a LS between Kirin (which you can pop whenever you like) and Fafnir (where you need an alliance to be prepared for three hours when FAFNIR is ready).

Very few linkshells make the transition from sky to Kings, but in a way Peregrine is right... it's not the difficulty of the fight, but the difficulty of the camp, and the fact that if you just throw people at it, you'll lose...

 

[Blazeoffury]

Fafnir isn't actually that hard to kill. You do have to understand combat mechanics though, and it's amazing how many groups go there and wipe because they have no interest in the basics...

It is hard to compete for though. There is a huge jump for a LS between Kirin (which you can pop whenever you like) and Fafnir (where you need an alliance to be prepared for three hours when FAFNIR is ready).

Very few linkshells make the transition from sky to Kings, but in a way Peregrine is right... it's not the difficulty of the fight, but the difficulty of the camp, and the fact that if you just throw people at it, you'll lose...

Which if you watch most of the "Average" shells that is what a lot of them do.

 

[naue]

I wasn't there, but I've had people try to kill me for no reason @Xolotl before. /stare Necrosis.

necro is pimp. gtfo

its fun to ruin someones day:spiteful:
its also fun to lose a claim and watch the other ls whipe, and then kill it. thats really fun

 

[Zethren]

necro is pimp. gtfo

its fun to ruin someones day:spiteful:
its also fun to lose a claim and watch the other ls whipe, and then kill it. thats really fun

Nah, getting claim and wiping and then the other LS who gets claim and them wiping. Now THATS FUN. XD

 

[naue]

touchez

 

[Zoolander]

abridged

End gamers arent the ones that talk about Fafnir like hes impossible to kill. Shit, fafnir isn't really much more difficult than Suzaku or Byakko. The difficulty in somthing like Fafnir is that you have to show up pretty much every day, and you ahve to get enough people there, at all different times of the day, with the right balance of jobs.

Dynamis used to be a big deal, yea, when no one knew exactly what pulls to do and when to do them. Things were difficult when they were new, obviously after Dynamis Windurst has been beat thousands of times, its not going to be considered very difficult. Anyone who thought Dynamis-Bea. was hard is a fucking idiot and should go die in a corner. Xarcabard was never really hard, you just need enough of the right jobs and a little bit of luck to take down DL. Any zone can be farmed with ease, IDK why you are kissing your own ass for being able to "farm" xarca, when you havent even taken DL down. Has your LS been successful? Sure. Are you the greatest? Not even close. Others don't boast about their accomplishments as much as you seem to.

Things were difficult when they were new, saying the average player is catching up is stupid. They aren't catching up, they are way the fuck behind. Using a strategy that has been tried and tested by others well over a year ago is hardly catching up. Just now reducing NMs to farming status that have been so for so called "hardcore endgamers" for years is not catching up.

Most of the things you talk about the average player catching up on were never diffuclt. The average player just convinced themselves they were.

 

[Firestreak]

For many endgame things the difficulty isn't the actual fight but working for months to prepare the right group to do it. To find people loyal who work well together, to have the right combination of jobs and to get them to all come online when needed.

The biggest issue is that of all these people, 1 incompetant person cannot be allowed to ruin it. There will be 10 mages present and if uses an aga then you lose. I've been present at 2 fafnir claims where we wiped cause of an aga. Then you have people who intend to only show for things they want, making this more difficult.

Then you need to deal with drama whores, loot whores, people quitting after getting gear and always keep your linkshell above the line of no return.

The line of no return being when you take some sort of unrecoverable hit and from then on will only spiral weaker and weaker as you can no longer recruit because you owe too much gear to older members that new members would rather join a shell with shorter lines.

So to hear that Fafnir is laughable, coming from a person who criticizes people for leveling jobs to be more useful. I just as well might say Jailer of Love is easy as long as I have all the appropriate jobs and a well rehearsed strategy from people who win regulary in front of me.

You really are funny Peregrine, I remember months ago how you justified your lack of thief knife to "Treasure hunter is overrated," so of course get your linkshell to buy it not you because you don't even want it -- then boast your AF2 hands so great and beat Ridill.

Basically it's anything to argue that what you already have is the best, what you don't have is not important, what you're doing is the most skillful, what everyone else doing is a waste of their time.

You don't even look at the stats anymore. If you own it then it must be the best.

And Firestreak is the one with the god complex.

 

[naue]

amen
h34r: :rtfm: