Mandau, or mandon't

[Gunnerx]

Your version is wrong, I was popping not Audino.

False information then, he said in LS "I was just looking over it, too" or something like that.

 

[Daveman]

I don't understand how if your LS sells you coins at a discount, coins you probably need, selling them back for a "profit" gets you your relic.

If you get cheap coins, why would u sell them for more, to buy coins back? It's basically taking gil from your LS that is being generous in my eyes.

What's better for the shell, giving 100 discounted coins that are resold and turned into 150 coins at other people's loss, or giving 150 discounted coins?

On the issue of the linkshell being generous in the first place, I feel like a shell has zero obligation to fund a relic for someone, however it's the linkshell's choice, if they're all close friends and everyone agrees, then it's fine to do these things as long as no member is angry at it or thinks it's unfair, it's harder to do this with a dynamis-only shell but whatever works. Members are free to quit the shell or complain to leaders if they feel the system is robbing them.

To be honest a shell helping someone fund a relic is unfair to the members in a material sense, but sometimes that's not all that matters.

 

[K. Ishitar]

well assuming that only one of that zeni can be popped at a time and it took longer to kill as described in the ss for them than it did you I guess I could see the point there although isn't touching the pop locations fair game unless there's some sort of cooldown period inbetween?

not trying to defend anyone here just understanding the situation

 

[K. Ishitar]

nevermind auron cleared it up for me lol

 

[Gunnerx]

well assuming that only one of that zeni can be popped at a time and it took longer to kill as described in the ss for them than it did you I guess I could see the point there although isn't touching the pop locations fair game unless there's some sort of cooldown period inbetween?

not trying to defend anyone here just understanding the situation

Just kind of a dick move that they see us ready and already active there, to just up and pop it without a word, then proceed to waste our time kiting it, we honestly killed Sarameya faster than they Iriz (maybe not but damn close). It's an ettiquette thing.

 

[Shirai]

Perhaps then you should have made clear that you weren't done yet.

 

[Tymon]

Well, that's pretty shitty.

I question how not even one of the five LS he was more or less laundering money from didn't notice SOMETHING was up throughout I assume this very large period of time (you don't get a relic overnight)


Note that I don't condone what he's doing, I think it's pretty obnoxious of him and all but it's kind of crazy no one noticed this, or if they did, didn't care.

I wouldn't want anyone profiting enough to buy a fucking relic off of my LS or anyone elses

 

[Rappa]

I'd like to hear from more people like Lunacie's dynamis ls to see if they were aware of what was going on and if they were/are okay with it. In addition I'd like to hear a weigh-in from members of the other 5 dynamis shells that Lunacie admitted to ripping off as well. I don't think most people would be okay with their shell getting the shaft so Lunacie could turn around and make some profit off of them. I could be wrong though, but I know I personally would be pissed about it. *shrugs*

 

[Auron X]

Perhaps then you should have made clear that you weren't done yet.

Yeah because LS's like to stand around in areas and do nothing when we are done with pops instead of warping home and doing other things...

 

[Gunnerx]

Perhaps then you should have made clear that you weren't done yet.

Oh yea, we didn't try that, may have helped if it wasn't painfully obvious we were about to pop another one.


:bb:

 

[Rappa]

Perhaps then you should have made clear that you weren't done yet.

How? Their blm literally walked up to the ??? out of nowhere while there were 20 of us by it and popped it in the span of about 3 seconds. I honestly didn't even see him walk up, wouldn't be surprised if he was Invis'd and then dropped it at the ??? because I was standing right there and had no idea what happened till the znm was being kited off in the opposite direction.

 

[Gunnerx]

I question how not even one of the five LS he was more or less laundering money from didn't notice SOMETHING was up throughout I assume this very large period of time (you don't get a relic overnight)

Nope i've heard it only took like 3-4 weeks with what ever "coin flipping" Lunacie did. If coin flipping is turning RL coins into little gold coins.

 

[Daveman]

I'd like to hear from more people like Lunacie's dynamis ls to see if they were aware of what was going on and if they were/are okay with it. In addition I'd like to hear a weigh-in from members of the other 5 dynamis shells that Lunacie admitted to ripping off as well. I don't think most people would be okay with their shell getting the shaft so Lunacie could turn around and make some profit off of them. I could be wrong though, but I know I personally would be pissed about it. *shrugs*

I would hope the fact that the dynamis linkshell was selling discounted coins to Lunacie was well known and nowhere near hidden, if it wasn't well known to members or kept outright hidden, then yeah it's taking advantage of the linkshell.

As for the other five linkshells, I bet they're happy not having to afk bazaar the coins and have garanteed fast+easy sales and that's why they sold the coins at a discount. Again, shrewd buisness, but likely just taking advantage of laziness so their loss. If the linkshell gave a special discount to Lunacie that someone else with similar buying patterns couldn't of gotten, then that shell has some corruption going on, they should be mad at whoever sold the coins, not at Lunaice (or at least, not as much).

When selling coins to someone outside the linkshell, the reason could be to fund a relic, to resell for a profit, or to simply toss them asap, it's none of the buisness of the seller.

 

[Audino]

They clearly saw we were killing the ZNM, not a word spoken to them or from them, they just popped it as audino was walking towards it.

I wasn't even there >.> I was in Sandy NQ'ing yet another Cerb Mantle with the Sara drops. All I saw was Rappa say something about drama so I wanted SS's. Had no idea what was going on.

 

[Gunnerx]

I wasn't even there >.> I was in Sandy NQ'ing yet another Cerb Mantle with the Sara drops. All I saw was Rappa say something about drama so I wanted SS's. Had no idea what was going on.

Thanks for pointing that out, could just let it go

But i know someone said it, might have even been Auron idk =/

 

[Audino]

Perhaps then you should have made clear that you weren't done yet.

Well, in all fairness, standing at a ??? indicates that. If it happened in the way it was told, it doesn't seem like anyone had chance to say otherwise.

 

[exodusamphi]

So is this about a Mandau (As the title suggests)

Or a ninja pop?

 

[Icewolf]

they just popped it as audino was walking towards it.

I wasn't even there >.>

At least you tried to make the bullshit believable ^^b

Nope i've heard it only took like 3-4 weeks with what ever "coin flipping" Lunacie did. If coin flipping is turning RL coins into little gold coins.

Please stop posting when you have no idea what your talking about. I think both sides can agree on that. It took far more than 3-4 weeks, he's been working on it the entire time he's been in dynamis heretics, which is about two years now.

 

[Shirai]

So is this about a Mandau (As the title suggests)

Or a ninja pop?

Same thing that has me confused really.

 

[Shirai]

Forgive me for the doule post, but I still don't see any reference between.
Zomg he got a Mandau by playing it smart!!!
And ZOMG He ninja popperd a NM with a whole 1 minute respawn on it's ???!!