Meeze and the rest of the herd

[onions]

Stupid Doo Doo Dump
R.I.P.

 

[Anttaru]

You also need to look at, if people are helping the Gilsellers, they become more efficeint. While part of the gil may stay with a "real player" thier efficiency would go up, thus allowing them to recieve MORE gil at a faster rate, because people are helping them claim, giving advice, ect.

- There is only 1 of every HNM per day.
There are days when 1 LS can get 3 of them a day. But it dosn't happen often enough. There is also the drap rate issue.

- There is only 24 hours in a day.
The GS cannot revieve extra gil.


Individually the seller obtains the same amount as they would if they were sharing with other sellers. Only difference is the RMT cycle takes longer to obtain larger amounts.

 

[Anttaru]

Anttaru, that's a nice theory...the problem is, if there were no one going against gilsellers, then it means they profit from every NM and quest they're involved in, no matter what. If there's people going against them, there's the chance they don't get the claim, and that one time they don't get the claim they may not get the drop, and that's instantly slowing them down more than teaming up with them ever would.

They never profit from the NM everytime, and when they do profit from the NM, 100% of the item will go to RMT. When the flow is rich, the buyers get it for cheaper, and when it's cheaper, more buyers buy it.

Some camps are only camped by GS because no one wants to cc them. Going up against GS may mean the GS will not get the HNM that day, but they will always return just the same as a full force. They are also very stable too, they operate 24 hours around the clock. More than what the average player can keep up with.

 

[Torque]

Well not to be an ass, but can I get summary of what happened. I really dont feel like going through 7 pages of text. But from what I saw looks like Meeze has facts and details(old posts). But I'm still curious as who to cheer for.

 

[meeze]

I have no real idea what this thread was meant to accomplish....especially from a wigger...

...but the general message was received.

Meeze = teh sux.

Sounds like a solid arguement to me.

Who are you?

I'm not a saltine, sorry to burst your bubble, I'm a spic, it has been well documented on these boards.

See yall in 3 months, I'm leaving for Europe on tuesday, be back in 3 months.

Ladies keep it tight, fellas get your game right- bean talk 2k6 ya beezies.

Krisy Go Dumb 1 time lol

 

[eternalisT]

Gil Sellers need to die... just like gil buyers... Fuck you all

Get em Meeze!

 

[Marajade]

- There is only 1 of every HNM per day.
There are days when 1 LS can get 3 of them a day. But it dosn't happen often enough. There is also the drap rate issue.

3 a day? the GS go from Nm to NM all day long. If anything, people helping them would allow them to be at both Roc and Simmy at the same time, should the windows overlap

 

[Bigboy]

- There is only 1 of every HNM per day.
There are days when 1 LS can get 3 of them a day. But it dosn't happen often enough. There is also the drap rate issue.

- There is only 24 hours in a day.
The GS cannot revieve extra gil.


Individually the seller obtains the same amount as they would if they were sharing with other sellers. Only difference is the RMT cycle takes longer to obtain larger amounts.

wtf are you talking about? Since when did GS ignore the 200+ regular NMs out there? I dont think the GS actually make as much money using 15 guys to kill Serket for a 9mil drop as they do using
3 guys camping Shadows, [20M]
3 guys camping NM gobbue in zi tah, [2M]
6 guys camping LoO [200M]
1 guy camping THF Knife [50M]
2 guys camping giants [10-55M]

Using the same amount of people its obvious how much more gil they can get their hands on when not taking on HNMs that have much stiffer competition. But since there are other people helping them they can spread their recourses out a whole lot more. When you actully know what the fuck your talking about Anttaru, it becomes really obvious how full of shit you really are.

 

[hellstorm]

wtf are you talking about? Since when did GS ignore the 200+ regular NMs out there? I dont think the GS actually make as much money using 15 guys to kill Serket for a 9mil drop as they do using
3 guys camping Shadows, [20M]
3 guys camping NM gobbue in zi tah, [2M]
6 guys camping LoO [200M]
1 guy camping THF Knife [50M]
2 guys camping giants [10-55M]

Using the same amount of people its obvious how much more gil they can get their hands on when not taking on HNMs that have much stiffer competition. But since there are other people helping them they can spread their recourses out a whole lot more. When you actully know what the fuck your talking about Anttaru, it becomes really obvious how full of shit you really are.

that be assuming they get drop every time, they get claim every time, and all the gil seller work for the same company.

 

[Marajade]

that be assuming they get drop every time, they get claim every time, and all the gil seller work for the same company.

Ah, but none of that matters. Since we're talking about money going to Gilsellers, it doesnt matter if its all the same company or not, because its now with "Gilsellers." And drop rate doesnt matter, because if they claim more than everyone else, they get more drops than anyone else acording to law of averages.

 

[Kire]

3 a day? the GS go from Nm to NM all day long. If anything, people helping them would allow them to be at both Roc and Simmy at the same time, should the windows overlap

most gillsellers farm NM and HNMs the rare 1s do "pure gill" farming whats stupidly fast and SE cant do jack on that as means removing all beastmen

windows over lap all the time but that does not efect gillsellers they can warp to any HNM if in the same region

 

[Marajade]

most gillsellers farm NM and HNMs the rare 1s do "pure gill" farming whats stupidly fast and SE cant do jack on that as means removing all beastmen

windows over lap all the time but that does not efect gillsellers they can warp to any HNM if in the same region

. . .

{What?!}

 

[Kire]

wtf are you talking about? Since when did GS ignore the 200+ regular NMs out there? I dont think the GS actually make as much money using 15 guys to kill Serket for a 9mil drop as they do using
3 guys camping Shadows, [20M]
3 guys camping NM gobbue in zi tah, [2M]
6 guys camping LoO [200M]
1 guy camping THF Knife [50M]
2 guys camping giants [10-55M]

Using the same amount of people its obvious how much more gil they can get their hands on when not taking on HNMs that have much stiffer competition. But since there are other people helping them they can spread their recourses out a whole lot more. When you actully know what the fuck your talking about Anttaru, it becomes really obvious how full of shit you really are.

and you have missed all the /random NM bots they got IGE only takes the GS gill in 5mill~75mil at a go
If you want to remove GS preety easy 2 answers: Dont buy there stuff; flood IGE with gill so they dont buy it for as much then GS will fuck off and get RL jobs
there is no way to remove GS unless you remove gill and RMT all ways be here as there are RMTs that never touch gill do PLing etc for gill

 

[Saevel]

This:

most gillsellers farm NM and HNMs the rare 1s do "pure gill" farming whats stupidly fast and SE cant do jack on that as means removing all beastmen

windows over lap all the time but that does not efect gillsellers they can warp to any HNM if in the same region

and this:

and you have missed all the /random NM bots they got IGE only takes the GS gill in 5mill~75mil at a go
If you want to remove GS preety easy 2 answers: Dont buy there stuff; flood IGE with gill so they dont buy it for as much then GS will fuck off and get RL jobs
there is no way to remove GS unless you remove gill and RMT all ways be here as there are RMTs that never touch gill do PLing etc for gill

Is not english.

 

[hellstorm]

and you have missed all the /random NM bots they got IGE only takes the GS gill in 5mill~75mil at a go
If you want to remove GS preety easy 2 answers: Dont buy there stuff; flood IGE with gill so they dont buy it for as much then GS will fuck off and get RL jobs
there is no way to remove GS unless you remove gill and RMT all ways be here as there are RMTs that never touch gill do PLing etc for gill

first off majority of the gs not all do it liget no bots. secoundly there no way you going get everyone stop buying gil.

 

[hellstorm]

Ah, but none of that matters. Since we're talking about money going to Gilsellers, it doesnt matter if its all the same company or not, because its now with "Gilsellers." And drop rate doesnt matter, because if they claim more than everyone else, they get more drops than anyone else acording to law of averages.

ok lets take JDA for example probly one the most know king hnm out there now law of avarage they get what they after more then anyone else but yet they not screwing the system.

 

[Ronith]

Not once have i ever heard meeze try to say he wasen't an ass-hat...

That's about all i can say on this topic.

I'm sorry but Mokk said it...

Meeze never denied being stated name(s)... <.<;

And this thread is quite entertaining, just watching the 2 go back and forth O_O I'm actually finding all sorts of entertainment of this... keep posting Mac and Meeze... *feeding the trolls*

 

[Marajade]

ok lets take JDA for example probly one the most know king hnm out there now law of avarage they get what they after more then anyone else but yet they not screwing the system.

i'm not sure where you're going with this. You're saying they should have gotten everything already and should leave Nms alone? That they shouldnt get the claims they're getting?

 

[hellstorm]

i'm not sure where you're going with this. You're saying they should have gotten everything already and should leave Nms alone? That they shouldnt get the claims they're getting?

And drop rate doesnt matter, because if they claim more than everyone else, they get more drops than anyone else acording to law of averages.

so if this is so then shell like jda and kaizen would be part problem to considering they have a large precentage of the kill on king mobs. Though lets just say we wont count king mobs. What make gil seller diffent then the avarage person
1) they just hunt nm nothing else
2) they spend days even months at camps.
3) they hunt in packs unlike most NA players<which also couple be the reason they get more drop then more NA> because more people mean more chance of getting items.
4) they work as ls and unlike other shells because there job is the game they can plan events when ever they want <event=hnms>

so they sell gil and the gil stay out system till someone deside to buy this be no diffent then if they hold the gil and decided to go on shoping spree months later. The only thing they really hurt is though who like to get there items by killing the mob.

 

[Brin]

Everybody already knows my opinion on RMT, and I think anyone involved in it is a big chunk of worthless crap in the game.

I'll even bust out my lil song and dance just for the occasion.

Bud Light Presents: Real Men of Vana'Diel
(real men of vana'diel)
Today we salute you, Mr. Gilseller Associater Guy.
(Mr. Gilseller Associater Guy)
You proudly hold your head high denying to never be involved in any "real money trade" as you walk the streets wearing that t-shirt that says "I hang out with gilsellers and all I got was this lousy t-shirt".
(So so poor...cant be a gillseller!)
You fail to make "decent" friends due to association while the gilsellers laugh at your attempts to be like them.
(Nobody likes me!)
Lying for you isnt just a trait.....its a way of life.
(Only way to reach the top!)
So crack open an ice-cold Bud Light, oh two-faced titan of the real money trade industry, because you so your part in making life in Vana Diel a hell-hole, one Notorious Monster at a time.
(Mr. Gilseller Associater Guy)