MNK vs. DRK 1v1 Ballista

[CubsWoo]

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Originally posted on Alla, two brothers play MNK and DRK in a semi-static. They decided to 1v1 each other in a 60cap Ghelsba Ballista and took a few vids.

If you want to look at their gear, here it is:

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Apparently Fraps messed up the first fight (Cross-Counters vs. Vassago's) but the MNK killed the DRK 3 times with only a Chakra for heals.

So, they handicapped the MNK with Adargas instead of Cross-Counters, and the result was...

http://x102.putfile.com/videos/13106505353.avi

And then they tried the MNK bare-handed against the DRK...

http://x102.putfile.com/videos/13106425560.avi

Heh lol pwned etc

 

[cohibuu]

flame for who?

 

[Rappa]

Without watching the videos.... drk's gear has evasion -a billion and mnk has evasion +a billion. Gee, I wonder what happens. :roll:

 

[Bajaratt]

Actually the monk has no evasion changes due to his gear. He gets 10 evasion from the scorpion harness, but loses it to the cross-counters, making it 0.

I'm not sure about the evasion changes in the DRK, but I believe the DRK loses some from the Hauby.

 

[Rappa]

drk
Hauby: evasion -20, agi -5.
Earrings: evasion -7

mnk
Scorp: evasion +10
earrings: agi+6
not wearing CC except the first fight

I'm probably missing more modifiers but you get the point. This fight exploits the fact that optimal drk gear sacrifices good def and evasion for more dmg. If he had a tank he would've been fine. Try it again with more appropriate gear.

 

[Raivyn]

Yeah, I tend to never wear hauby in ballista...

and when I use scythe it's "build tp with a group then one shot anyone"

 

[CubsWoo]

Rappa, there's also a vid of this same MNK beating a NIN, unless you're advocating 2v1 with a MNK in Ballista as a 'fair fight.'

 

[Raivyn]

Rappa, there's also a vid of this same MNK beating a NIN, unless you're advocating 2v1 with a MNK in Ballista as a 'fair fight.'

No such thing as a fair fight >

I think best option for drk in ballista is to go /nin and dualwield axe anyhow

 

[Raivyn]

60 cap at least

 

[Rappa]

Rappa, there's also a vid of this same MNK beating a NIN, unless you're advocating 2v1 with a MNK in Ballista as a 'fair fight.'

What does that have to do with a drk fighting in ballista with the complete and utter wrong gear? I'm not dissing the monk, I'm just saying the drk is asking for death.

 

[Eladamiri]

Basically what it comes down to, MNK owns all in ballista. I can see your ego is getting hurt rappa and you are desperately trying to defend your job, but its pointless. A gimp monk could take your "tank DRK" or any kind of equipped DRK for that matter.

MNKS are just too powerfull, but i hve heard of MNKs having trouble with ninjas... but for all melee DD, MNk is the sexorz

 

[Mistaya]

lol I wrote something out then i watched the video

Its absolutely impossible to defend that drk because thats possibly the worst attempt at ballista by a drk I've ever seen. It would take far too much time to go point for point what exactly he did wrong. The ONLY thing he did right was cast bio2 to start. Thats the ONLY thing. wow... And in both those fights the mnk was in the red if you looked... wow I can't believe how horrible that guy was I'm in absolute shock :lol: He missed with his scythe every single hit but one, and he kept moving! YOU CANT SWING WHILE MOVING FOOL!

Utterly amazed by the sheer badness of that... The mnk couldve been naked and won.

 

[Seawolf]

he kept moving! YOU CANT SWING WHILE MOVING FOOL!

There is a belief that you miss more often while your target is moving. The DRK in the video was trying to keep moving, wait for weapon cooldown, and turn back just in time for his next attack.

 

[deathsvengeance]

well either way.. he had shit for defense, missed a lot, didn't do much damage when he did hit, and had a long delay weapon, vs a monk, with a low delay, martial arts, etc etc etc. Its obvious who is going to win :roll:

 

[Davio]

Basically what it comes down to, MNK owns all in ballista. I can see your ego is getting hurt rappa and you are desperately trying to defend your job, but its pointless. A gimp monk could take your "tank DRK" or any kind of equipped DRK for that matter.

MNKS are just too powerfull, but i hve heard of MNKs having trouble with ninjas... but for all melee DD, MNk is the sexorz

I can own a MNK and a DRK.

When SE made Ballista, they over powered RDMs.
When im PLD/RDM with my Koenig and PHalanx, im basically untouchable.
:/

 

[Mishaela]

Not that it really matters, but there's a huge chance the MNK is using a Super Ribbons, which woulda also give him another 1 eva/acc (and however much eva/acc +1 to every stat would give)

Posted that in the wrong topic and just noticed.... ><;;

 

[Rappa]

Basically what it comes down to, MNK owns all in ballista. I can see your ego is getting hurt rappa and you are desperately trying to defend your job, but its pointless. A gimp monk could take your "tank DRK" or any kind of equipped DRK for that matter.

Roffle, I don't have an "ego" about my job, I just posted here to clarify why the drk had no chance. I've seen lots of videos of drks getting pwned and of drks pwning in ballista so I know it can go either way. And of course, after watching the video I would say that almost anyone could've beaten that guy. :lol: Monks do own bigtime in ballista I'll admit.

 

[El Curago]

that DRK/WAR, i could have pwned with my eyes closed

now Ellion the DRK/SAM, i'd be hurting, havent had a chance to go 1 on 1 with him yet so who would be the victor is still a mystery

(He did pwn Mephs though 1 on 1, and I pwned mephs as well XD)

 

[Tyrath]

Basically what it comes down to, MNK owns all in ballista. I can see your ego is getting hurt rappa and you are desperately trying to defend your job, but its pointless. A gimp monk could take your "tank DRK" or any kind of equipped DRK for that matter.

MNKS are just too powerfull, but i hve heard of MNKs having trouble with ninjas... but for all melee DD, MNk is the sexorz

I killed a rng 1 on 1 in lvl 10 Ballista as mnk. I guess that goes along with this :twisted:

 

[Mistaya]

When im PLD/RDM with my Koenig and PHalanx, im basically untouchable

bwahahah thats what lethe water+1 is for... 6 of Davio's effects have dissapeared. ^^!

I think the huge amount of nifty items during a match really improve it a lot because sometimes the items can overcome class imbalance. The game wasn't 'made' for pvp, the classes arent balanced around it and classes dont have the normal checks and balances a pvp game would have so smart item use and smart playing can really benifit your team. (I always use my points on a body boost for the start of the match. Having a lot more hp is GOOD. That item is insane btw, a teammate of mine had over 3100 HP by stacking them. as a ninja. O_O

In ballista I don't 'fight' much, I play anti-mage, stuns and aspirs and drains and utsusemi killing with my horribly underleveled enfeeble poisonga, which is fine because the poison doesnt stick but they lose shadows I'm usually the high scorer or just behind him, I quarry a lot. If I happen to get a dadeulus wing I run over and slap a guillotine on a whm or blm, added effect silence >: ) (i am in the habit of poisonga'ing before i touch a person, shadows are so damn anoying to a high delay weapon weilder. A mnk can eat through Utsusemi ni in a single round if he's lucky, I have to cast but so can I.)

There is a belief that you miss more often while your target is moving. The DRK in the video was trying to keep moving, wait for weapon cooldown, and turn back just in time for his next attack

that belief is utter crap. notice he doesnt swing once while running around like a retard? Well, the way the game's visuals work he was probably just backing up, (It tends to show backing up as a flip turn on other player's screens.) but it was a bad idea. Where was the drains and the stuns. Where was the bash. He attempted drain while he was at full health in vid 1 and never again after. sigh... ballista-noob.

You know what DOES cause people to miss? Behind behind them. A strategy I developed as a 71 in uncapped while fighting vs warriors and mnks and plds and other melee all with utsu-ni which i don't have at 71, and half with krakens, and all with their ungodly Asuran fists, slug shots? (This really messes with thfs, and was how i made up the idea.) Run in a tiny circle around him. You will never show your back so are virtually immune to sneak attack. They cant hit you as often (You will be hit but not as often.) and their WS will lose them all tp if you are lucky. I nearly killed a full health lvl 75 warrior in half AF2 and god knows what else when i was at 200 hp from being rampaged by doing this. It took a while for his buddy the rng to run over and slug shot what was left of me

I'll repeat. DRK AF is great for ballista, (Body and pants, pants add huge bonus to parry and body has higher def than hauberk and +vit.) Also, in uncapped the drk JSE earring is -20% physical damage which is great for obvious reasons. Vassago scythe is shitty for ballista anyways, iirc that thing has -5%hp doesnt it?