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Bullshit, if you did pull with RA, you didn't do it very often, I saw more ninjutsu/aggro pulls than RA pulls. What you say doesn't even make sense.
More bullshit, you never made any mention of this. The SAM even offered to change his sub and you said nothing. Unlike you Darkbass was actually good at his job. He was constantly waiting for you to build TP so he could SC, which is why he never went.
My internet craps out on me all the time (Comcast ftw), I remember the mob was at about 20% HP when I started DCing, you guys could have finished it off by the time I lost my connection. I had a better chance of dying with mugo healing me. I didn't even bother coming back after since the party sucked so much.
i know my gear is pooor but it works and have a sword belt marco in with the Assassin trick attackand working on getting swift belt . but with out realy knowing and DEX AGI STR i was told is key to THf.
You really have no excuse for gimp gear, you are a THF, go farm, that NQ swordbelt isn't going to produce spectacular numbers exactly.
but its a game, and i've been getting partys and having fun. just have to watch whats happening around you. and i'm not the only one emoting around:wink: but see you in the game. and thanks for the levels
You are an incredibly immature player. I still have no idea why you just had to shout random shit every 10 minutes, and then make fart emotes. You are ridiculous, grow up.
I r the gimp blu of the pt that dc'd!
honest, it was really stormingIll show the forecast!
Low
T-Storms 61° F
Precip: 60%
Showers and scattered thunderstorms. Low 61F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 60%.
Awww ruffy never gets a PT...and when he does he d/cs. Sorry Kage that people suck so bad. Thanks for the heads up.
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While on BLU, anyway....
Aggro pulls has it uses. If you aggro pulls it you can use hide AFTER the tank grabbed it's attention from you. And flee + Aggro pull is a nice thing to shoot for chain 5+ every now and then.
However it certainly doesn't make sense to aggro pull every time tho.
one more thing, i dun understand y ppl dispises alla so much. Point me to a better database for job starters. The threads under the stickies usually has a lot of good information and it's awesome to help the lower-mid leveling. BG is not for starters, KI doesn't have those kind of thread complilations.
However it certainly doesn't make sense to aggro pull every time tho.
one more thing, i dun understand y ppl dispises alla so much. Point me to a better database for job starters. The threads under the stickies usually has a lot of good information and it's awesome to help the lower-mid leveling. BG is not for starters, KI doesn't have those kind of thread complilations.
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The reason we hate people from Alla is because they are the dumbasses who think War/whm is a good combo because you can Silena yourself. Or that Pld need Chr over any other stat.
I can hardly agree that it's a good forum since it only have 10 threads in each job. Nothing really in depth.
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/jobs.html?fjob=10;mid=1092011898117271927;num=61;page=1 Which i still use from time to time. However i have to admit the quality of new threads are very disappointing but the old ones are insanely informative.
As for the war/whm discussion... I am sure every forum has a couple dumbasses. And we have a few dumbasses that got banned as well. e.g. blazn. Does it make qcdn a dumb forum as well?
And War/whm can indeed be a viable tank on wyrms.
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Maybe not threads but there are guides to practically every job. I'm pretty much sure thats what Romper wanted you to see.
You don't need to read threads for everything you need to know.
Walk-throughs, guides are just as informative...if not better than reading threads, in my opinion.
You don't need to read threads for everything you need to know.
Walk-throughs, guides are just as informative...if not better than reading threads, in my opinion.
Allah has its uses.. google a quest alla 95% of the time has a complete walkthrough. I usually get a second opinion on the missions though - I've run into some bumps in the road with allah leaving out key npc's to talk to (usually someone makes a comment halfway down the page about the "correct" way to do the mission, which is when I look elsewhere).
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Oh jesus christ no, I'm not even touching this one.Mugo, the WHM/BLU, yes, he subbed BLU, before we set out for camp, his BLM sub was only level 18, so he changed it to BLU. He had no dark staff, so the BLM in our party was nice enough to let him borrow it for the duration of the party. He also had some pretty sweet gear as well, rocking the bibiki seashell and medieval collar, along with an HP+ earring. His excuse for this lack of gear? "When I logged on today a lot of my gear was missing and I only had 20k left" yeah right, try that excuse somewhere else.
I pulled like that cause of the WHM/BLU never having the dam MP slow pull to give get more HMP! lol and yes i did use range, why would i use acid bolt quiver.
dude, whatever, Darkbass Sam/Thf never did sata on blue. i kept repeting to him to go and he said he cant . so i do have a marco and used it Assassin trick attack with DE and doing hits around 400-500 and then go around and SA off darkbass for 200ish dmg
:badwords: And i'm not the one the Forced DC in middle of battle letting everyone almost die :crazy:
Dang dude that was about a year an 1/2 ago, Sam is 65 nowld: , but nice to see you and yea i has new i leveled war to 33 and got sam and leveled that up. :bb:
i know my gear is pooor but it works and have a sword belt marco in with the Assassin trick attack
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We were fighting defoliators and diremites, the ones that aggro by, you know, sound?
FFXIclopedia outdoes any other FFXI information site bar none.
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You trying to be a smartass makes you look stupid. He was giving a situation where it could be nice, not saying it is good all the time or for every mob. Read the post before you attack. Don't skim something you plan on rebutting, in the end you'll look like a retard.
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Yeah don't be so quick to jump the gun there, Kage.
I believe he was saying you could Hide an aggro pull once it is being tanked. I'm not certain, but it does sound like it could possibly work.
I know Hide works on mobs who detect by sound, when you haven't touched them. (IE: Dynamis Orc pull: SATA/Hide before any AOE's occur)
I'm just not certain if you can Hide mobs who detect by sound, after pulling them via aggro. Can anyone confirm? However, I think Lionsheart is correct about this one; considering he's a career Thief.
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Hide only works on mobs that aggro/track by sight. Hide DOESN'T cover sound or scent. Orcs also aggro on sight. Only beastmen in starting areas that aggro by sound are Quadavs. Unless it is different in dynamis, but aren't all the mobs in dynamis all true sight/sound anyways?
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Covered the FFXIclopedia thing. Posted the link, and all. I should have posted my post in the Noobs! post because hell everything is better than Alla. For things like WoW I might use Alla, but WoW has thottbot.
Hide works on sound detected mobs , only if the mob is not claimed by you. i.e. you are not technically on its hate list.
When your tank grabs the mob's attention after aggro pull, you are dropped from the mob's aggro list and therefore you can use hide on it. And flee + aggro pulling usually is faster than run -> stop -> shoot coz of the delay. Of coz you can only do that every 5 min therefore there's no point of doing aggro pull on every pull.
Wiki is an awesome site =) but it lacks the discussion from the experienced players provided. Obviously the job page still needs to develop more since there's already a couple mistake on thf's page. Just like other's mentioned, alla is still a great tool for cross referencing.
When your tank grabs the mob's attention after aggro pull, you are dropped from the mob's aggro list and therefore you can use hide on it. And flee + aggro pulling usually is faster than run -> stop -> shoot coz of the delay. Of coz you can only do that every 5 min therefore there's no point of doing aggro pull on every pull.
Wiki is an awesome site =) but it lacks the discussion from the experienced players provided. Obviously the job page still needs to develop more since there's already a couple mistake on thf's page. Just like other's mentioned, alla is still a great tool for cross referencing.
Thread needs more CHR...aint that right Myrrh and Raider.
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Lol You just realized you said you were off it's hate list when the tank provoked it right? Of course your knocked down the hate list. You don't lose hate, but it's still there. I am sorry, but hide only works on mobs when you disengage sneak + then hide (source: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Hide). The only bad part about this list is that it is missing Orcs from the sight aggro list of enmity loss. The only thing on here that says Hide will erase enmity on is Puks and Undead. Of course you have to get out of sound aggro range for both, and be above 75% HP for the Undead.
Otherwise losing hate on something like a crawler you NEED sneak on first. I said it before, and I'll say it again hate shed only works on a sight based mob. The only way you could do it is if you flee + sneak+ hide. In that order of course for you to lose hate solo. Otherwise hide alone will not work. This is the only way for SA+ Sneak+ Hide would work so you could hit SA from any side so you shed that hate.
For scent that is moot nothing aggros by scent only tracks. Of course you could always just walk across some water to lose that aggro. Take for example crawlers in Bohdya (SP) Tree and pulling them from one of the trees then cross over the water you lose hate because they track by scent and the water over powers their noses.
As for experienced players on Alla lol. You're better off asking us because you'll get a retarded ass answer.
Other helpful sites that are better than Alla:
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/
http://www.killingifrit.com (missions mostly)
http://ffxi.sompage.com (has data compilation after updates pretty quickly)
http://www.ffxi-atlas.com/ (maps)
http://campsitarus.blogspot.com/ (great site for camp spots)
All better than Alla. You don't need morons to tell you what to do when you have great sources right there in those links. Also even better experienced players right here on QCDN. Alla is the equivalence of ShinraOnline for FFXI except they don't have a crappy flameboard on Alla that I know of.
Edit: Had a thought why would you use Hide in an EXP party anyways? You break up SATA at 60. Pre-60 you usually have a first voke for SATA, and either way if you are pulling you're going to have hate. The only time I could see a thief not having hate right away is if you had a RNG pulling, and you're pre-60, but post 45 with your group lacking a first provoke you hit SATA then use hide to SATA the tank. Still I would think you would need sneak for that one. It's been so long since I played thief I may be wrong, but I don't think that something the doesn't cover your sound will work on something that attacks on your sounds. Hide in general just blinds you from things that attack on sight.
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