MW2

[Strid]

He tries to make a good point though. To be honest, this game, MP wise, does not feel like a sequel to MW, it feels like a totally different game. I wouldn't be surprised if in MW2 you didn't die when someone looked at you. IW took the arcady insult they got last time around and this feels like they said, "No, but this is!"

 

[Ravic]

It's nice to see that the P90 is still the overpowered weapon-of-choice of douche bags everywhere. Way to work on game balance, IW.

 

[Tok]

all i fucking see when I look at forums about this game is people either bawwwwing about their dedicated servers, or picking apart every little detail that they think that IW fucked up on

yeah, it does play like a totally different game...that's why it's better than the first if they just rehashed the first one without changing any aspect of it I would probably bawww about it too

@ravic, I think the P90 is pretty on par with it's damage output, I mean the real FN p90 has a muzzle velocity of 2,789 ft per second, shooting 900 rounds a minute I would hope that it seems overpowered

seriously, adapt to the new style of gameplay,

 

[masterorion]

i actually think the p90 is more balanced now than it was. i used it most of the time on cod4. i could practically snipe people that were well out of its firing range. they seemed to have dumbed that down to where it should be. as for right now, its perfect in the aspect of a close quarters weapon. only thing they need to work on is the shield. by this, i mean, they need to make a point to where the shield has taken as many hits as it possibly can before it cannot effectively stop them anymore.

 

[Cort]

@ravic, I think the P90 is pretty on par with it's damage output, I mean the real FN p90 has a muzzle velocity of 2,789 ft per second, shooting 900 rounds a minute I would hope that it seems overpowered

seriously, adapt to the new style of gameplay,

Yeah the FN P90 may produce high velocity shot, but the 32gr baby boolit results in only ~397 ft-lbf with the SS190 ammo (even less with civilian legal ammo).

That's not a lot of power when compared to 9mm (309-519 ft-lbf, depending on load), 40S&W (400-424 ft-lbf), .45ACP (352-518 ft-lbf), or the God-King 10mm (744-767 ft-lbf). Hell, even the 7.62x25mm Tokarev (290-560) can produce more energy.

/gun nerd

 

[Tok]

Yeah the FN P90 may produce high velocity shot, but the 32gr baby boolit results in only ~397 ft-lbf with the SS190 ammo (even less with civilian legal ammo).

That's not a lot of power when compared to 9mm (309-519 ft-lbf, depending on load), 40S&W (400-424 ft-lbf), .45ACP (352-518 ft-lbf), or the God-King 10mm (744-767 ft-lbf). Hell, even the 7.62x25mm Tokarev (290-560) can produce more energy.

/gun nerd

true, but the SS190 ammo will still produce 12-14 (IIRC) inches of penetration power, which is nothin to shake a stick at, and again with a 900 round a minute rate of fire that can be pretty deadly, and usually when using the P90 in game you are run and gun (not to mention if they are uing akimbo) at short range, thats pretty powerful

 

[Strid]

I got my ACR today and man, Osy, you were right. That thing just straight rips people apart. With Stopping Power it's just nasty but it doesn't even need it. I was using it with a silencer and Cold Blood most of the night and runnin' amok on people. It even has beast range silenced. The accuracy on it is just sick, to me, it makes sniper rifles even more useless than they already are.

As for the p90, I don't run in to it that often in the 3rd person playlist. I have picked it up a time or two but the MP5k feels leaps and bounds like the best SMG. The crosshairs on the p90 goes nuts when you shoot it in 3rd person so it makes using it useless for anything other than spray and praying close quarters. Unfortunately for the p90 shotguns are just way better at that and you don't even have to sacrifice a primary weapon slot for them.

I'm REALLY glad they put in features to render killstreaks useless if you're runnin' with some good players. I always, always have a Stinger on my back and I'll take that shit out before it even gets started. That makes it a totally different ballgame to me. Where as in MW they won or lost the round for you, now they can only beat you if you let them.

As for the overall balance of the game, if you're finding it to be a mess in FP mode I'd say take a trip over to 3rd person mode. It's a whole different game that way. This game really feels like it was meant to be played in 3rd person.

 

[Elemmire]

That kid needs help

anyways



modders win

 

[Chasym]

the only issues i have with the game is the matchmaking.
We enter a room and have to keep leaving because its not bringing our full party into the match, this happens with EVERYONE. You hear people in the lobby all the time "oh man he didnt get in, back out guys!" and you gotta keep doing it until you FINALLY get a match, i spend more time trying to get my party into a lobby than playing the game lately.

2nd is the latency crap, where i open fire on a guy with his back turned and empty a full clip in them, just for them to turn around and drop me in a shot. Watch their kill cam, it shows them barely take any damage.
That and the clipping.
You run around a corner of a building that cant be shot through, and you still die, watch the kill cam, it shows you die before you even turn the corner. its bs.

Doesnt keep me from raping people, but it still needs some attention, mainly the matchmaking BS.

 

[Morcheeba]

Yea as much as I haven't played since I picked it up. Getting a match going and the lobby full is a royal pain!

It has taken up to nearly 10 minutes sometimes of dicking around which is a tad much imo.

I'm not sure what the issue is, but I hope it's already been recognised and is a plan for maintenance soon!

 

[Icewolf]

That kid needs help

anyways



modders win

You know the best part about this vid? They used a Deadmau5 song yeeeeeaah!

Anyway, P90 has never been broken, don't know why so many people think that. I havn't played MW2 due to a red ringed xbox, but it wasn't broken in cod4. You can snipe with ANY gun if you tap, not just p90.

 

[RaidrX]

I hardly ever see people with P90s. I dont really think any gun is overpowered in this. I've been fuckin rippin with the ACR though, I love the accy on that. I wouldn't say snipers are worthless either, the WA2000 can be pretty sick on some maps, especially wasteland, although i haven't gotten the M21 yet.

As far as matchmaking goes I haven't had any problems, although the most I usually play with is 1 or 2 other guys, at more 4 other and sometimes with 4 it can be slower, but everyone still gets in. Usually its just me and one of my other friends and we get into shit right away.

And yeah for kill streaks, if you're playing against anyone half decent atleast one person on the other team is gonna have a stinger/jave. I'm carrying Javs now since its fun to see em shoot up and blow people up, but stingers are solid too. Pretty much me and my friends see something come in and its like 'You want to take this harrier down or you want me to get it?' Although, if no one does shoot em down the pavelow and harriers can rip it up. Was in a game the other day we were down like 52-54, i got a harrier then a pave low and we ended up winning like 73-57 it was rape lol. The time was at like 40 seconds when i called them in so i got like 15-20 kills in that short time. Was pretty sick lol.

 

[Gerry]

Probably should forewarn PC users of MW2 on this one:

The ghost of dedicated servers continues to haunt Modern Warfare 2, as the flawless IWNet has been apparently struck down with a Trojan virus. Infinity Ward's replacement for dedicated servers has allegedly been hacked by a nefarious MW2 clan who are using a mixture of DLL files and guest clients' open ports in order to spread the Trojan to those who log into IWNEt and play the game.

There is a chance that it's simply an Antivirus program picking up something benign. Tech savvy gamers are trying to find the root of the issue, but there is a fear spreading, and people are warned to be careful when playing Modern Warfare 2 on a PC.

Real or not, this is not something Infinity Ward will live down easily. After promoting IWNEt as a better alternative to PC gamers' beloved dedicated servers, the last thing IW needs is a Trojan infesting the service. Still, that's what happens when you spring a whole new service on people a month before a game's launch. While I may not fully support all the complaints and boycotting over MW2, I can certainly agree that this is very shoddy stuff indeed.

There is a lot of egg on the faces of Infinity Ward spokesmen today, methinks.

http://www.destructoid.com/rumor-iwnet-giving-modern-warfare-2-players-viruses-155482.phtml

 

[Strid]

the only issues i have with the game is the matchmaking.
We enter a room and have to keep leaving because its not bringing our full party into the match, this happens with EVERYONE. You hear people in the lobby all the time "oh man he didnt get in, back out guys!" and you gotta keep doing it until you FINALLY get a match, i spend more time trying to get my party into a lobby than playing the game lately.

This seems to happen once a night for my team and then it's over. The first time we try to get a match someone gets dropped when we enter the lobby. After we back out and grab them it hasn't happened again. It's still something they need to fix though. I can't imagine how it is with 8 people. Our problem is the time it takes to find a game. It's like Gears 2 all over again. Sometimes my team will sit in the lobby for a good 2-3 minutes before one player is thrown in our room.

2nd is the latency crap, where i open fire on a guy with his back turned and empty a full clip in them, just for them to turn around and drop me in a shot. Watch their kill cam, it shows them barely take any damage.
That and the clipping.
You run around a corner of a building that cant be shot through, and you still die, watch the kill cam, it shows you die before you even turn the corner. its bs.

This started to happen to me in MW about a year after it came out. Everybody though I was nuts then my buddies started to pick up on it. I just stopped playing, flat out. I didn't think there was any way in hell it'd make a return this soon considering how long it took it to start occurring in MW. Unfortunately for me his game is to fun to stop like the original though. More than the full clippin' people only to die, I hate running from bullets and getting killed after I've found proper cover... it's just so heartbreaking to die after you've already though, "I made it!"

So yeah, the game needs some work, but on the bright side it could be worse. We could be gettin' Trojans on our CPU's from someone deciding to pwn IWNet (things are heating up!).

 

[Airou]

W00t w00t got my K/D to 1.46 so im happeh

Im only 39, but my weapon of choice has been the SCAR, ive unlocked and beaten every challenge for it, im going to test out the m16 once i unlock it but so far SCAR has been the best weapon for me.

 

[Icewolf]

W00t w00t got my K/D to 1.46 so im happeh

Im only 39, but my weapon of choice has been the SCAR, ive unlocked and beaten every challenge for it, im going to test out the m16 once i unlock it but so far SCAR has been the best weapon for me.

That ratio will die when you get to like 40k kills lol, just sayin. I had like a 1.60 ratio in cod4 for the longest time, but the more kills i got, slowly it went down to 1.40 now. Even though it seemed I went way positive every game.. *shrugs*

When I get my xbox back I wanna hold a 2.00 ratio for as long as I can..

 

[RaidrX]

Still have yet to see/use a nuke. Had a 22/0 game goin but didn't realize I ran out of ammo and was shotting a dude, clicked 0 and he popped me i was like FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU. Otherwise I saw a dude on my team get to 21 but i went on a 15 kill killstreak and ended the game lol. Never seen an enemy get close really, so yeah kinda weak.

 

[Strid]

Still have yet to see/use a nuke. Had a 22/0 game goin but didn't realize I ran out of ammo and was shotting a dude, clicked 0 and he popped me i was like FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU. Otherwise I saw a dude on my team get to 21 but i went on a 15 kill killstreak and ended the game lol. Never seen an enemy get close really, so yeah kinda weak.

If you really want to get a nuke off, do some sacrificing on your KS rewards to make it uber easy. Go Harriers, Chopper Gunner, then Nuke. Easy peazy. You probably wont even need any ammo after the Harriers ;D Just make sure to watch your ass while in the Chopper Gunner.

I got my 8-bit Price icon last night. That thing is friggin' awesome.

 

[Chasym]

i dropped my first nuke the other night, using that set up. Harriers, Chopper gunner, Nuke. It is a sacrifice to set it up so high if your not that great, But i never seem to have a problem getting that 7 streak, it just seems that right when i get it, i die just after or they blow my harrier out of the sky before it gets a kill or even has a chance to appear. That or i get one away from the gunner and die.
Either way, it does make it easier.

My ratio is currently at 1.60, but it does seem to drop even when i go positive. Which is just about EVERY game. That just doesnt make sense. I went negative one game last night and dropped to a 1.59, Then after 4 games of going positive, i went back up to a 1.60, but i only went negative 2 in that one game, and positive 10+ every game after, that system confuses me.
Im already nearing level 50 in the first prestige, My favorite titles so far are,
The Mastodon. The Grim Reaper and My Lil' Pwny.
Ive been using the guerrilla emblem with the king crown on his head, it gets laughs!

and now that so many glitches have been found, its getting kind of annoying, people elevatoring and crap. I havent run into it much but when i do i cuss up a storm. And why is it that there are so many damn secrets and nooks and crannies hidden in high rise? I got sniped repeatedly by a guy on top of one of the buildings, and im not talking about the ledge you can get to by climbing the crane.
Im talking actually being on the roof.
I spent 45 minutes after that match trying to figure it out, and when i finally did i was angry that it was even there, sure early on its a surprise and people wont know how to take you out from up there really, but once it becomes more common, it wont be so bad.
And yes, it was put there on purpose because of the teddy bears on the roof.

Oh, and in Favela, Go into the one little store and read the packaging on the candy and stuff "Sweet and Sexy" and "Glazed Dongs" is hilarious to read. I found them while hiding in a corner during a match, and then my whole team wanted to come see, so we fought off the enemy while they read and won the match while goofing off.
Their top player was so angry at the end of the match "WHY DID YOU GUYS KEEP GOING IN THAT BUILDING!?" "To read the packaging on the candy" "BS!!! Why were you really in there, is there a glitch!?" "No...we were seriously reading the candy packages" "What the hell!!! You raped us over that!? BS!!!"
hahaha

and the books in terminal are real titles of famous books, i dont know about "Butt Ugly" tho lol, that and the champagne sign "It goes down Deep and Hard"

 

[Strid]

i dropped my first nuke the other night, using that set up. Harriers, Chopper gunner, Nuke. It is a sacrifice to set it up so high if your not that great, But i never seem to have a problem getting that 7 streak, it just seems that right when i get it, i die just after or they blow my harrier out of the sky before it gets a kill or even has a chance to appear. That or i get one away from the gunner and die.
Either way, it does make it easier.

I don't even run with the nuke but one of my buddies does sometimes and that is his set-up when he does. Hell, he dropped 3 last night in the span of 7 games. I prefer to run Predator, Harriers, and Pave Low. That's more win than a nuke in my book. I was playin' a Demo match today and stocked up, I had 2 harriers and 2 Pave Lows. I was saving them for my teams offensive run ;D That shit was dirty, dirty.

My ratio is currently at 1.60, but it does seem to drop even when i go positive. Which is just about EVERY game. That just doesnt make sense. I went negative one game last night and dropped to a 1.59, Then after 4 games of going positive, i went back up to a 1.60, but i only went negative 2 in that one game, and positive 10+ every game after, that system confuses me.

It's not as confusing as you think, you're just not thinkin' about it properly. Your K/D ratio is built off of your -total- kills. To satisfy a 1.60 your -total- kills, when pooled, has to remain at 1.60 when your kills are divided by your deaths. That's all there is to it.

Goin' positive by 10+ kills doesn't always keep you at 1.60. Even if you went +10 EVERY round. If you go 30/20 that is 1.50 which is a steep decrease in your average if you had a 1.60. The only time going +10 would benefit a 1.60 is when your number of -kills- is LOWER than 26. If you get more than 26 kills you'd have to go more than 10 kills over deaths to remain at 1.60.

So just to give an example, if you went 55 and 45 your K/D ratio would be 1.2222~. In regards to your total kill pool, depending on which edge you are closer to, up or down, it may go up, down, or not change at all in number value presented on the leaderboards. If your ratio doesn't change, it brings you close to either going up or down, in your case, at 1.6 you'd be closer to going down if it didn't send you down. If you got 55 kills, in order to keep a 1.60 ratio safe, the most amount of deaths you could have is 34.

Contrary to what Icewolf said earlier, the more and more your kills and deaths grow, the less likely they are to fluctuate. If you went from 1.6 to 1.55 when your kills reach the 10k range, you're just awful. While going from 1.6 to 1.55 while in the 1k range is just a bad game or two.

I'm tryin' really hard to get up to a 2.0. I'm currently at 1.99 but on the side closer to .98. The reason I say "tryin' really hard" is because I want a 2.0 but I'm not campin' for it. I play 3rd Person Team Tactical and I'm a team player so it's actually quite hard, for me at least, to get a 2.0 while TactInsert rushin' a lit box in Demolition or actin' as a bullet sponge for a Flag Carrier.