My Berserk is broken ;;

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Alexxia

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I started playing DRK recently and when i hit 30 i switched to DRK/NIN with swords (Souleater + Fast Blade =D) and the fact that with shadows i didn't have to turn souleater off in fear i was getting my ass kicked.

but then ppl were like OMG WTF are u doing holding swords?? you should use axes if ur gunna play DRK/NIN (im still 56 so i don't even have rampage and b) don't DRKS have higher sword than axe skill anywayz?) so i decided to play DRK/WAR (after chatching up my scythe like 100 pts >.<) and also, 50+ ppl are gunna tell me to sub war anyways for berserk.

so here i am drk/war and i alternate turning on berserk, last resort, and souleater (so each time i WS i have one buff on at least). but i just DON"T NOTICE A DIFF WITH BERSERK OR LAST RESORT!!! and whats better, the activation of last resort pulls a lot of hate so i end up getting my ass kicked and not doing the kinda dmg to make up for it.

so i decided to test this. i went to CN and found 2 helm beetles both TV low eva high def. first fight no buffs just swinging until 208% tp and WS. second fight - reset TP, turn on berserk and turn on last resort b4 i WS at 208% tp again. I had my friend parse this (he was also tanking for me). first fight i averaged 77 dmg and second 64 dmg.

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btw my TH is also broken too
i think SE hates me
 
Two fights on their own don't prove anything. What if the second crawler had higher defence? What if the first had temporarily forgotten how to use Cocoon?

And everyone's TH is broken, that's a fact of life.
 
o.O You're on your own. That shit doesn't make sense to me anymore than it does to you.
 
Dez said:
Two fights on their own don't prove anything. What if the second crawler had higher defence? What if the first had temporarily forgotten how to use Cocoon?

And everyone's TH is broken, that's a fact of life.
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i was fighting helm beetles so no cocoon and i made sure to check both beetles - both VT low eva high def

and i was with a 75 war and got 11 exp both times (we were chatting between fights so no exp chain)

i did another 2 tests on 2 beetles that were T i think low def low eva (i think)
i didn't parse those, only had my own judgement and looked like no diff either.



edit: ok ok i left out some info - vorpal scythe did 20 more DMG with berserk and last resort, (200 vs 220) but really.. 20 more dmg on a WS thats so inconsistant
 
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That is odd. Did you check your damage taken as well? Maybe Beserk is just weak if it's your subjob...
 
berserk doesn't get weaker subbed.
 
PDIF comes in tiers. If you can't break into a new PDIF tier with the attack boost, you won't notice any gains. Try putting on some more +attack gear (Assailant's Ring, RG Collar, at 59 Haubergeon...) and try to push yourself up to the next tier, that's where you'll see Attack boost your damage.
 
berserk lasts longer then last resort but souleater is better as you lose HP to do more damage whats set at +10% if im right
 
i knew a question of gear would come up, cuz yeah most of my gear is accuracy. i figured im holding a scythe, im elvaan (horrid memories of playing WAR using a GAxe in the dunes where 3 fights in a row i didn't hit ONCE).... so im using a life belt, venerers ring, woodsman, that weird body piece that starts with a J... so yeah i guess my problem is gear *sigh* and this is why i didn't want to play a melee
 
You should probably delete your character. That should fix it.
 
Claxton said:
You should probably delete your character. That should fix it.
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harsh..
 
Please tell me that if youre loaded to the teeth with acc gear youre not using sushi.
 
Galaika said:
Please tell me that if youre loaded to the teeth with acc gear youre not using sushi.
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Sorry to best your bubble gal, but by 50-70 standards(I won't speak for 71-75 yet), even if a melee is equipped in tons of acc gear, they'll still need to use sushi to avoid a stiff drop in DoT. This is assuming we're talking about inc-tough mobs. Maybe that's not as true for mnk and war with agg/focus, I wouldn't know.

Although gal, if one doesn't need both sushi and a complete set of acc gear to have a high hit rate, using sushi and taking out some acc equips for str/attk equipment is probably the better option.

I'll also throw this out as it might have some kind of point.

As a thief and ninja, vs inc-tough mobs, especially 150-200 xp mobs, anytime I ever tried attk food, I've noticed NO difference in my damage per hit or my WSs. However, normally when I try attk food for T-VT mobs, I notice a very appearant rise in my damage per hit.

After hearing someone mention "Tiers of damage" in this thread, I think that information I shared might give people something to think about.
 
Yes, PDIF is the Attack/Defense part of the damage formula, and it applies a multiplier to your weapon damage + strength modifier based on the ratio, which is tiered and randomised.

If you can't break into a new PDIF tier with your +attack or attack food (normally, attack food will push you into a new tier of PDIF though), it isn't worth using. That's why bards are so powerful with double minuet - usually that kind of gigantic attack boost can often push you up two tiers of PDIF, and sometimes even cap your PDIF.
 
Tymon said:
harsh..
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Yeah well, that one thread about the war/nin wanting to use greatsword put me over the edge.
 
DRK has same skill lvl in sword and in axe( cap 240)
 
Claxton said:
Yeah well, that one thread about the war/nin wanting to use greatsword put me over the edge.
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lol i remember tha topic kinda gay if you ask me, Greatsword over 2 axes lol your gay i can see greatsword as war/mnk but not war/nin
 
blazn said:
berserk lasts longer then last resort but souleater is better as you lose HP to do more damage whats set at +10% if im right
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1. Souleater as subjob is bad, as it's a 5% damage boost at cost of 15% taken (DRK main it's 10%/10%)

2. In your sig, Shaid said that to me, not you. I'd totally kick your butt for plagarizing quotes but with all the crap you spew, I wouldn't know which end to start kicking.

*edit* Also,
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