My complaint on Ayrie

[Bluefrost]

When people don't want to listen, personally I take a seat and watch them come so close to death that if someone farted they would fall over dead.

That is the most disgusting behavior ever. Look at my two main jobs; the two jobs that can effectively say "Hey, if you don't watch it, I'll get you killed." Sure, I've had the thought of not doing my job appropriately to get my point across, but why? I'm just going to have to raise them and/or create more downtime. Why screw 5 people over if you're just mad at one? It doesn't make sense. All you're proving is that you are horrible at doing your job properly, and they won't want to party with you.

 

[Passions]

You can't sit back and expect someone to work twice as hard in a party for the same amount of exp as everyone... oh wait I almost forgot your a BLM, I guess you can. Easist mage job in the game.

If i saw you in RL i'd kick your ass for that statement. GLFO nOOb blm, i work twice as hard playing blm as i do whm, and use more thinking and switching it up then rdm.
Learn wtf your talking about then come back to the conversation seriously. whm, rdm, and blm i've played all 3 post 60 not to 75 yet but maybe someday. Never turn down advice, at least try it out and see if it works for you. In the end GTFO with your blm is to easy you dont understand shit attitude, there are other ways of dealing with issues then just not curing and not removing status effects. you can't come to an agreement or it just turns into an arguement warp by all means i CAN party w/out a whm, i'll bring my own so i dont have to deal with you fucking nOObs, but don't warp mid-battle against a lizard thats just rude.

 

[Dragon Ryder]

STFU Solitia nuff said (BURN!)

don't mind me

 

[Moev]

Solitia Lmfao

That was a nice try I'll give you that.

Also a whm does lose more exp when they die in a party then everyone else unless they are level 75 and get rr3. While other members get a raise3 if your not 75 then your stuck with rr2.

Most often the WHM is the first person to die in a party when someone isn't doing their job. Simply because they have to pick up the slack and over cure which draws hate and with a lower DEF usually means death.

Don't even try to pull crap and say "Oh well a BLM can over nuke and pull hate and die..." because nobody asked any blm to over nuke. A WHM on the other hand doesn't have that choice. If they don't keep the tank alive then usually everyone dies.

That simply is the reason why a WHM would have the most right of anyone to bitch in a party.

It's late and reading your post made me even more sleepy, I do want to grats though on your new job with SE. It's pretty cool that you get to run around and decide what is and isn't professional. Maybe you should be my mentor or something since you think you know so much, lmao I have stopped playing whm longer then you have been playing this game.

Feeling powerful and big over a video game? That's pretty sad actually, I feel sorry for anyone who's life is so meaningless and empty where they would have to come onto a video game just to have that feeling.

As for the rest of the crap you said, blah blah blah sorry but I've worked over 30hrs in 2days and had like 5hrs sleep, so really I could care less.

The only one who gives WHM's a bad name is whiny ones like you, with your poor me WHM attitude and "stop being mean your making it hard for the rest of us". It's a game dood, chillax n have some fun.

Oh and just for the record. 1. You'd never have any reason to do any of what you said, in regards to refresh ect since I do my job and damn well.
2nd. anytime I have ever done anything like that (stop curing or removing status ailment) nobody had an issue with it. Whoever wasn't doing their job properly which was the cause of it to happen in the first place said sorry, foundout what they needed to do and the goodtimes went on. The DD's laughed and thought it was funny.

So save your holyier then thou crap for someone else.

 

[Moev]

As for these other two... wow you really need to work on your reading skills. I said that the way Ayrie handled the situation wasn't the coolist way to do it. I also pointed out the fact that her trying to argue with Kat about whm is kinda like you two trying to sit here and argue with me.

Blue the only one who wasn't doing their job in that situation was the one who was why stopped curing them in the first place. Same reason the thf kept SATA'n them trying to get them killed lmao. The exp was already lower then what it should have been since someone wasn't doing their job, so it's not like anyone really cared if there was downtime. I'm talking like 3 years ago here so really not like I remember it like it was yesterday.

Seems like you misunderstand the point of what I was saying by that. Which wasn't that anytime someone doesn't listen to you go ahead and act like them and screw up the exp like the other player is doing. It was simply that sometimes extreem situations call for extreem measures. That in the proper situation it can be a very effictive tool, which is probally why the same thought has crossed your mind too. It's called common sence, maybe I gave you guys too much credit, thinking that everyone had some of it.


Titti aka passions, or whatever your calling yourself now. Lmao of obviously are not very good at your jobs bro if your gonna sit here and tell me that BLM is harder to play and play well over WHM. You made me laugh though so it's all good. Kick my ass bro?? I highly doubt that since I train in MMA, K-1 ring a bell?? Anytime you wanna get froggy I'll take ya down to the gym, let you take a swing, throw your ass in an armbar n have you crying like a little girl.

I can tell I haven't played on this server in awhile when I got ppl with 2 jobs 70+ trying to talk smack to me. Good Times^^

 

[Solitia]

Also a whm does lose more exp when they die in a party then everyone else unless they are level 75 and get rr3. While other members get a raise3 if your not 75 then your stuck with rr2.

Oh noes! I have to work to get back 300-500 more exp since I don't have RR3 yet....!

There is only one period in levels when a WHM has the right to whine about dying, and that is in the R2-RR2 gap. And a WHM, like a BLM, can learn to ride the hate line so even if stuff is going to shit, they can usually avoid dying. This is called "learning how to play the game without dying." WHM, BLM, RDM, DD, whatever, everyone either learns this or dies a ton because of taking silly risks.

Most often the WHM is the first person to die in a party when someone isn't doing their job. Simply because they have to pick up the slack and over cure which draws hate and with a lower DEF usually means death.

In most parties I'm in, it's the tank that goes down first and foremost. I suppose by your argument, our WHM wasn't picking up enough slack.

WHM on the other hand doesn't have that choice. If they don't keep the tank alive then usually everyone dies.

In an exp party? Bullshit. Unless you're doing RNG cannon or some other weird setup, a melee can emergency tank in a pinch, even if only for long enough for a BLM to Escape or a WHM to Tele or something. Tank going down doesn't automatically mean instant wipe, even in really bad parties. I understand you're tired, and therefore prone to some gross generalizing, but at least try a little here, Moev. After all, you're supposed to be pwning me.

I do want to grats though on your new job with SE. It's pretty cool that you get to run around and decide what is and isn't professional.

Oh, I'm sorry, I made an assumption, which I'm sure you would never do about someone you don't know....

lmao I have stopped playing whm longer then you have been playing this game.

Oops, spoke to soon. You don't know crap about me, dude, so why make yourself look more ignorant?

Feeling powerful and big over a video game? That's pretty sad actually, I feel sorry for anyone who's life is so meaningless and empty where they would have to come onto a video game just to have that feeling.

People with the weakest arguments bring real life into a video game debate. It's the QCDN Flameboard version of the argument ad Hitlerium. Let's call it the "argument ad IRLium." This is a good standard example. Someone who is losing an argument decides to belittle another person by ruthlessly mocking their real life, which of course they know nothing about, thinking that this "pwnz" someone or gives them "teh win." Lol.

The only one who gives WHM's a bad name is whiny ones like you, with your poor me WHM attitude and "stop being mean your making it hard for the rest of us". It's a game dood, chillax n have some fun.

I'm whining because I want a WHM to actually Stona a tank, yet Ayrie who threw a temper tantrum and Warped mid-fight isn't giving WHMs a bad name? I don't understand your alien video game logic.

As for chillaxing, you were the one that jumped down my throat first, DOOD. Maybe someone needs to get some sleep before he gets any crankier.

 

[deathsvengeance]

Soli don't waste your time arguing with Moev, not worth it, just a waste of board space.

 

[Solitia]

Soli don't waste your time arguing with Moev, not worth it, just a waste of board space.

Awww, but I wanna play.

Oh well, anything for you Eili. :biggrin:

 

[Thnikkaman]

lol, it's another depiction of someone thinking they know about a job that they've never played. Yeah, I'll admit, I did it with Ninja before, but then I started playing NIN and I turned out to be right.

Solitia's a nice person, I don't know why she's so... evil(?) on these boards.

 

[deathsvengeance]

lol, it's another depiction of someone thinking they know about a job that they've never played. Yeah, I'll admit, I did it with Ninja before, but then I started playing NIN and I turned out to be right.

Solitia's a nice person, I don't know why she's so... evil(?) on these boards.

Soli is always evil, that's why I <3 her *hugs her cutsey taru buddy*

 

[Passions]

Titti aka passions, or whatever your calling yourself now. Lmao of obviously are not very good at your jobs bro if your gonna sit here and tell me that BLM is harder to play and play well over WHM. You made me laugh though so it's all good. Kick my ass bro?? I highly doubt that since I train in MMA, K-1 ring a bell?? Anytime you wanna get froggy I'll take ya down to the gym, let you take a swing, throw your ass in an armbar n have you crying like a little girl.

Words like that mean nothing in rl, mine was a figure of speach dumb ass.
Funny, no one's flaming my whm :/ Never had anyone complain about my whm :/
yet YOU haven't lvl'd blm, so you "presume" that its easy because you MAYBE played it to 37, yeah ok at 37 it was pretty easy along with every job comon feed me another one. maybe if you could get your head out of your ass, you could smell the coffee and wake up and realize that your not very good at what you do.

I can tell I haven't played on this server in awhile when I got ppl with 2 jobs 70+ trying to talk smack to me. Good Times^^

maybe you should take this as a hint?
your skills aren't anything compared to mine, which is pretty obvious by your post. Funny you bash me, yet you have multiple people down YOUR throte not mine.
keepem comin nOOb, to bad SE couldn't demot your whm back to lvl 1 where it belongs

 

[Phraust]

Ayrie:

I am going to leave you with a little wisdom my father passed on to me.

"People never seem to have time to do anything right, and yet, somehow, always find the time to do things over..." -My Pops.

When somone suggests that a spell be cast, one that happens to be in your toolbox, I suggest you cast it, or in the very least try to figure out why they would ask you to do so. If you can't find the time to cast a 1.5 second spell, yet you find the time to pass out SEVERAL mid level cures, or a Curaga of some sort, then you my dear, have failed. You say you don't have enough time to cast these spells, yet you find seemingly infinite time to type retorts and defenses and ridicule in the chat log.

Please note that you overlooked a vital dynamic about the reason behind Using lower cures more often: TIME! you spread out hate over time, rather than creating spikes. That being said you should also note that it's easier to guage your cures in doses, you send a consistant volley of cures on a tank and something bad happens like a double crit, you know you can toss out better counter spells to help that. Waiting for the orange and dumping a V is not very bright. (Which is what you elude to in every post.) AND If you pace your cures you can double up one when you need ot cast a buff like oh... Barfira?

You seem really big into the 'Being all you can be' philosophy, but part of that is being able to adapt, impove, and listen. Being good, and fostering a 'good morale through success' doesn't mean you rule with an iron fist and belittle your peers. You seem to be suffering from your ego; if you can't do all your tasks as a whm, ask your peers to help you out. If you are falling behind on your curing cause you need to do an abnormal amount of status aleviations, then ask your BLM or RDM to help you cure. There is no cut and dry way to fight, each battle is different, change with it, and listen to what others say, doesn't mean you need to follow thier advice, but listening does wonders. Especially when advice is coming from a senior member of your proffession such as Kat.

A lot of the things on the flameboard are stated poorly. Just cause that is so, doesn't mean there's not a message in every post. When somone says something contrairy to your beliefs, don't just shoot them in the face and walk away, find out why they said it, Keep your mind open.

 

[Moev]

Sol u asked if a whm loses more exp then the other party members when they die. I simply pointed out the fact that they do, end of that discussion.

Yeah 9/10 times I'd say that whm wasn't picking up enough slack. That also depends on what type of mob your fighting and what kind of tank you have while fighting the mob. (IE: NIN tank on a spider ect) In that case where the tank can be 1 shoted then no I wouldn't say they weren't picking up enough slack. Then again it also depends on if they were using erase to take away slow and rehasting. It's the whm's job to keep their party alive, so really there shouldn't be any death in a perfect world.

Tele is an option but usually after the tank dies the whm has hate, depending on the situation so they often get interupted before its finished casting. Your assuming that every party would have another DD who could take over tanking. THF/NIN no provoke. DRK's can deal damage but wont last long as a tank, ect. only option is to hope the BLM can escape in time if the tank goes down. Only thing is sometimes your exp'n in an area where you can't escape, and/or where by escaping or tele'n it would take you longer to get back to your camp. Which usually means in the best interests of exp its better and faster to take the wipe unless your able to defeat the mob first, reraise and dishout r3's and get back to exp'n.

No you made a statement. You decided for everyone and all the whm's what is and isn't professional.

IDK wtf your on buddy but it's some good shit, I made a general statement about your comment about "feeling big and powerful". If you want to somehow think it's directed towards you, you'd know better then anyone if the shoe fits.

You seem to think that I agree with what Ayrie did, which I do not. I already clarifyed that in a later post. That pretty much says it all about that.

I'm suppost to pwn you for teh win... reread about how I feel towards "Feeling big and powerful" that applies here as well. Your right about one thing though I need a goodnights sleep I am getting pretty cranky.

 

[Moev]

Phraust, Very well said. I porbally should have got some sleep and made mine once I wasn't pretty much out of it. Nobody can't argue with what you said even if they wanted to.

Titti I am gonna do you a favor right now, shh stop typing. Just so you know I have a 69 BLM which one day after I get back around to it I hope to be able at that time to finish leveling it to 75 as well. I have more important things going on at the time so really it can sit on the back burner and wait.

You got a whole flame on you being a greedy prick bud, not one person can ever complain about how I play any of my jobs. I only see me and sol having a convo/debate and you jumping in with your 2gil. 2 people is a couple, 3 is a few, 4 or more is multi.

Anyway your done, so bye.

 

[Passions]

Titti I am gonna do you a favor right now, shh stop typing. Just so you know I have a 69 BLM which one day after I get back around to it I hope to be able at that time to finish leveling it to 75 as well. I have more important things going on at the time so really it can sit on the back burner and wait.

and i'm sure your one of those people that have 2 macro's for the job, your highest tier spell and your highest aga spell. You lack of respect for the job makes me sick. stop lvling it EVER you don't deserve to be a 75 blm, your a disgrace to the job.

You got a whole flame on you being a greedy prick bud, not one person can ever complain about how I play any of my jobs.

{Hmmm.} i'm complaining should i make a thread for that? also that thread about me being greedy is over me not wanting to go on ANOTHER ohat run w/out getting hat, yeah i'm a greedy bitch.

I only see me and sol having a convo/debate and you jumping in with your 2gil. 2 people is a couple, 3 is a few, 4 or more is multi.

funny, i thought this was the flame board, open to anyone that has registered there account. if its private why can i see it? PM {do you have it}
you want a 2 way convo talk it to pm's other wise i'm free to say wtf i want to say.

I'm suppost to pwn you for teh win... reread about how I feel towards "Feeling big and powerful" that applies here as well.

what about here, kind of contradictary of yourself if you ask me.

Anyway your done, so bye.

why? you scared of me or something? Don't hate me because you suck at playing your jobs.

Tele is an option but usually after the tank dies the whm has hate

Actually its the BLM's place to be second in line of hate from a mob. That is the boarder line they want to stay on, nuke just enough to NOT get hate but still be doing damage. If there is a blm in the group, they should die right after the tank. and even i can live through 6-8 shots from a IT+ mob as a taru.
but you would know all about this since your a such a HL blm right?

Your assuming that every party would have another DD who could take over tanking. THF/NIN no provoke. DRK's can deal damage but wont last long as a tank

actually a DRK could hold it long enough for a escape spell or tele whatever it be, but even if they couldn't you have this lovely thf/nin that can SA and easily pull hate and blink tank. Hmmm. makes me wonder more about your intelect on these jobs you play that no one complains about you sucking. Your just proving you don't have the first clue about what goes on as a whole in a party.

 

[meeze]

WHMs should just stfu and let a brd/rdm combo handle main healing in XP. Get the fuck back to jeuno and teleport people around and PL noobs so they can unlock thier DRG job. When it is time for dynamis HNM or gods we'll let you know to show up, make sure you have cure V and Raise 3 ready.

 

[Jague]

Ayrie=good WAR/NIN...


That's all I got to say about that.

 

[Mishaela]

WHMs should just stfu and let a brd/rdm combo handle main healing in XP. Get the fuck back to jeuno and teleport people around and PL noobs so they can unlock thier DRG job. When it is time for dynamis HNM or gods we'll let you know to show up, make sure you have cure V and Raise 3 ready.

I saw you in Jeuno but it was some person you gave your account to. Made me ubers sad. ><

 

[meeze]

I saw you in Jeuno but it was some person you gave your account to. Made me ubers sad. ><

Ya, I'm a PL whore now DRK74/RDM21ish 4tw.

 

[wolfskymoon]

A good whm cures fast never lets tank dies before her mp is out.If tank dies before mp is used up he/she sucks.A good whm removes paralyze and other debuffs asap (1 sec) if you don't you probably suck.A good whm doesn't waste time and be stubborn about stuff.Like sneaking that one guy who doesn't have oils cuz usually it wastes time in the end.On my rdm i sneak ppl all the time so dun give me that bullshit about buying oils when this zone is not that big.Maybe one day i'd level a whm and show you guys what kind of job it was suppose to be.