My horror trip to lebanon.

masamura said:
Do you have proof? I've visitted middle eastern countries many times over... It's a beautiful place, the people are legendary and the hospitablity is unmatched! They'll pratically take you into their arms and call you brother and treat you like a real blood-brother! Your 75% is a fallacy with no concerete evidence. You only say this because you heard it from someone who was told by someone that he read it from someone.

Sharia law is how they justify hanging people for adultery and sex before marriage. Lashes and even execution for being homosexual. Seriously read up on these places before you spout your rubbish.
 
Sharpe said:
Ermmm yeah that just proves my point. I'm not American thank you. If you could actually read you'd notice i'm British. Where are you from? I love how if Israel does anything it's wrong and illegal, yet Hezbollah, Hamas and other terrorist organisations can kindnap innocent people, fire rockets at Israeli towns, blow themselves up on buses, in cafes etc and that's alright.

Oh blimy, I beg your pardon.

Anyway, my point is, Hezbollah and Hamas has a close relationship. Whatever pain is inflicted on Palestinians, Hezbollah would also feel it. Just like how English people and American people are. You mess with one, you mess with the other.

No, I'm not condoing any type of violence. Neither party is right blasting each other, but Israel is taking one-step too far and the will continue taking these steps till they achieve their goal - cleansing of Arab ethnics.
 
masamura said:
No, I'm not condoing any type of violence. Neither party is right blasting each other, but Israel is taking one-step too far and the will continue taking these steps till they achieve their goal - cleansing of Arab ethnics.

Which side has openly admitted that they "Will never be satisfied till the state of Israel doesn't exist and the Jews are wiped into the sea". Yeah that would be the likes of Syria and Iran, not the Israelis. Well if Hezbollah can attack Israel because they feel that the Palestinians are feeling pain then I think Britain and America should invade Iran and Syria because the pain that Israel is feeling.
 
Wow what a discussion.

wow i didnt really want to start a whole political debate but hey why not lol. Im leaving for chicago tomorrow @9:30 am until then im @ a 5 star hotel in heathrow called the raddison. Israel has the right to defend itself that is true but its also known and this isnt a freaking conspiracy theory that they do do things they want without any regard to laws. However this has also been done by america, we killed the indians and took there land etc. etc. etc. Its simple a country does what benefits itself. The only problem to me is that its costing to many civilian lives and they simply deny that it happens. There is a great senator from illinios by the name of Paul Findley for those of you who think that israel is a nice country and doesnt have its own agenda and disregards the worlds politic's and laws. Before you take this posting as anti sematic realize i am a christian and have no problem with people of jewish faith. I do however have a problem with the way the government of israel operates and even the way the israeli lobbies in the united states operate to further achieve israel's agenda. You may think of this statement as me claiming jewish people are zionists which isnt the case. This is my opinion and i have researched it through the writings and quotations of many people this country would call prominant buisness people or politicians. Like everything written about Israel, Skull and Bones, even up to big foot there is always truth even if hidden within a lie. Fortunately ff has alot of older people playing who are educated and have points of views besides that of "NO NO IM RIGHT YOUR WRONG FAT HEAD". Well im comin home i could care less what happens now (american attitude you only care about yourself) and for those of you who would claim otherwise look at the situation if you where in my shoes. Total Spent: 10,000$ Original Budget:2,500$ Debt To American Express:7,500$ Im a broke college student whose vacation was ruined, whose uncles wedding was stopped 3 hours early because of bombings maybe 20km away and im pissed about it. If i could chose who to side with i easily take israel simply because hizbollah is worse for lebanon then israel is.

Stryder
 
Sharpe said:
Sharia law is how they justify hanging people for adultery and sex before marriage. Lashes and even execution for being homosexual. Seriously read up on these places before you spout your rubbish.

And you sir, I suggest read up on YOUR part. Sha'ria is not that bloody easy to be made fun of. You don't just "hang" a person because you "suspect" them doing so. You need 4 witnesses for adultery, and of these 4 people, they need to be sane, and have concentre evidence! True, homosexuals will get execution as a final resort, but most of the time, they only serve jail time or fines. What's so wrong about being anti-homos?

This is Christianity's view on homosexuality:

Homosexuality is an illicit lust forbidden by God. He said to His people Israel, "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination" (Leviticus 18:22). "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them" (Leviticus 20:13). In these passages homosexuality is condemned as a prime example of sin, a sexual perversion. The Christian can neither alter God's viewpoint nor depart from it.

Not *everyone* likes to have your type of law in their country. If you talk so much about freedom of choice and speech, then wouldn' this be one of them? Arab Muslim nations are comfortable with Sha'Ria, so what's your problem?

And what does this matter have anything to do with Israel anyway? They're still the bad people. Youre just pointing it to another problem.
 
Nuff of the arguing. Wars should be avoided at all times, and un-necessary deaths the same.

Stryder, i'm glad you're okay, and sorry that happened to you bud. I was wondering where you've been ingame...

Cheers
 
Sharpe said:
Which side has openly admitted that they "Will never be satisfied till the state of Israel doesn't exist and the Jews are wiped into the sea". Yeah that would be the likes of Syria and Iran, not the Israelis. Well if Hezbollah can attack Israel because they feel that the Palestinians are feeling pain then I think Britain and America should invade Iran and Syria because the pain that Israel is feeling.

Have you listened to the MP3 file yet? Dear god.. talking about ignorance.
 
Masamaru hit this on the head. Systematic genocide of the Palestineans and other arabs should not be condoned. Using the guise of 'defending' oneself is still no excuse. Isreal is deliberatly targeting civilians (both christians and muslims) in lebanon for 2 kidnapped soldiers. Well, what about all the people Israel has kidnapped over the years that havent had a fair trial and have been rotting in jail for decades? Why is it ok for them to kidnap people?

Why is it ok for Israel to shell 14 people sitting on a beach having a picnic? A suicide bomb goes off in Israel, and this is callled terrorism. Yet, Israel deliberatly targeting Palestinean and Lebanese civilians isnt called terrorism. Then what is it? Collateral damage? Well, not to the people getting killed over there. This is what you need to keep in mind before you pass judgement.
 
Leviticus ... that's from the Old Testament... which is the Torah...
"Please allow me to speak on behalf of my people: 'Keep your fucking Christian Right noses out of our reading material!'" -Lewis Black

Since when has France been "great"? 13-16 century?
 
masamura said:
Do you have proof? I've visitted middle eastern countries many times over... It's a beautiful place, the people are legendary and the hospitablity is unmatched! They'll pratically take you into their arms and call you brother and treat you like a real blood-brother! Your 75% is a fallacy with no concerete evidence. You only say this because you heard it from someone who was told by someone that he read it from someone.

LMAO!!!! I'm talking CENTURYS of recorded history pal. YO, stop surfing the extremist propaganda sites, and join us back in the real world....oh wait, you can't...you're on your soap box if idiocy. Good luck to you, by the way...who are you in game so I can laugh at you everytime I see you?
 
Uh... why would anyone consider vacationing in the middle east? There's always crap being blown up over there, and it's not just some recent thing.
 
sirivalin said:
LMAO!!!! I'm talking CENTURYS of recorded history pal. YO, stop surfing the extremist propaganda sites, and join us back in the real world....oh wait, you can't...you're on your soap box if idiocy. Good luck to you, by the way...who are you in game so I can laugh at you everytime I see you?

Oh WOW "recorded history." So I assume you still kill Indians, still hold a prejudice towards African-Americans and being a Christian nation, still hang and burn people for witchcraft? LOL. Get some education, please.

Oh.. again, like I said, have you known any Arabs personally? Been to Middle-East? Guess you haven't have you? You're probably stuck under your mom's basement.

You know, I hate personal attacks, but you're just really an imbecile.
 
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Euphacent said:
Uh... why would anyone consider vacationing in the middle east? There's always crap being blown up over there, and it's not just some recent thing.

No where is really safe. But depending on which part of middle-east we're talking about, there's some pretty cool place there. Like U.A.E.
 
masamura said:
Oh WOW "recorded history." So I assume you still kill Indians, still hold a prejudice towards African-Americans and being a Christian nation, still hang and burn people for witchcraft? LOL. Get some education, please.

Oh.. again, like I said, have you known any Arabs personally? Been to Middle-East? Guess you haven't have you? You're probably stuck under your mom's basement.

You know, I hate personal attacks, but you're just really an imbecile.

Only Arabs I know think their home country is whack. Thats why they are here. Just by that note alone they are biased, but dodging bombs is something I'd hardly argue. Its probably a great area when half of its inhabitants aren't stuck between warring factions.

My race enslaaved black people back in the day, we don't now; but the same can't be said for all the transgressions in the middle east. Its still a bunch of Jews fighting Muslims, just like it has been for centuries. Anti-semitism was a problem in the middle esat long before Isreal existed. It really wasn't a good place to drop a bunch of people to "save" them from other tyranies of the world at the time. Live and learn though I guss. ; ;
 
strydermonk said:
I dont care that israel destroys hizbollah more power to them i care that they bomb beirut which is no where near hizbollah and other christian controlled areas. Take it from someone who knows no one in lebanon likes there president cabinet or any other polititions but what can you do in a country thats run by syria behind the curtain and that a terrorist militia has more artillary than the actual countries army. Fuck israel for attacking beirut and christian controlled area's, do us a favor kill hizbollah cuz no one likes em get rid of the current president + others and give power to the good people still left in its borders. Few people still remember that lebanon is 50% christian. Plus you would feel a little different if you could hear the bombs from your hotel or your beach resort. Hizbollah is in the south beirut is in the middle I WAS IN THE NORTH. At a beach resort and i could see the bombings. Kill em get it done quick then go after syria and iran please.
Lol muslims are dying in Palestine Iraq Kashmir n Africa... and not even once do i see anything about it on T.VIgnorance of some people just brings a smirk on my face sometimes.YOu people talk about middle east like its some kind of shit hole... but yea i would think that too if i relied on FOX t.v for all the news.Guess where all the money from those huge oil pumps goes? it goes into the economy n thats the reason you don't see as many Arabs / Uae nationalities in USA as compared to the trillions of people from other parts of the world.And when you say "Kill em all get it done quick then go after syria and iran please" lol you do know that so many people are going to lose their lives right? ... but o u just don't care.So i fail to see the difference between you and a terrorist who bombs a school or something,you both have the same garbage in ur brain
 
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