My PS2 harddrive broke...

I think when meeze posted his first one he was just unclear, I was pissed when I read it too, but now that he's gettin his point across I'm identifying with it a lot more, it's like BHE we've had this LS from the first week of the game, shit I was lvl7 when I got the first pearl from Jimm, and have always felt a connection with it, we have a ONE LS rule, *other than HNM and God LSs* but we do our regular shell events and we schedule these and put them in LSmes and we know who the people are that are going to be helping out (those of you reading this and wonder why we don't jump to do your events might see why, we do keep track of that), being a 1 LS shell we probably have more than show up then some LSs cause it pisses me off when ppl jump shells, if that's your thing that's good, but it's my feelings on it. And it pisses me off too when we schedule an event and can't do it because of lack of people *thank god it's only happend once I belive in all this time*.
Being a HNM shell I can understand his feelings on this because you get all excited about doing something, show up at faffy to kick some ass, and you're standing there with 3 other people or alone, and you're pretty much waiting for it to spawn to get ToD, once or twice might get annoying, but if that happens over and over, it's liable to get to some dark knight and have him post a goodbye message pissed off at the world.
First thought I was pissed at his post, I agree with it now, I just think he had a hard time gettin his point across prolly cause he was frustrated.
I've never liked meeze, mostly because he bashed both my LS's and I was smiling when I saw he was leaving. Also I think he's an asshole, but I'ma say something I didn't want to ever hear myself say. Meeze hope ya come back, cause you never know, you might find that LS that you are looking for, with enough dedicated members in it to do what you wanna do.
 
Going to miss you Meeze.

Thanks for being patient with me and never treating me like a noob even tho i felt like one. lol.
 
80% of the people join end game shells and use the "i'm down for whatever" line. then they get thier items and "oh, rl>game" line. that's why they got called pussies.
 
I know what you mean Mezz, seems you never can do what you really want, due to lack of participation. Doing great things isnt hard at all if you have the right people for it.
 
People are selfish by nature. The reason communism didn't work out is the very same reason why what you are asking doesn't work out. There is simply no incedntive for those who already got the gear to go back and do the same boring shit over again.

I am not defending them, I am just explaining why they do what they do.
For a friend, the success of another friend is gratification enough. However, as you previously pointed out, on the Internet people often tend to not form that kind of friendships, but limit themselves to "practical" friendships.

I don't have a solution for this in-game problem. My solution when I first came across this issue in EQ1 was to simply quit the game. Though honestly, I didn't try to make everyone else feel bad about me being disappointed. Many of those I played with had been playing EQ1 since Beta3 with me. I quit when OoW came out, so that's what, 5 years, or 6, I forget. I simply made a post stating the facts that led to my decision, and I left emotions out of it. Just say No to drama.
 
Well shit dude sorry to see you go... CoP was kicking ass but oh well you gotta do what you gotta do. Good luck with things.
 
I understand what Meeze means about showing up. I've tried to put things together many times and people would no-show or say they can't do it. I lead ArcaneGarden which is a social LS. Anything beyond that is what my members dictate. I would go as far to say that we are very active for a social LS. I will be open and honest, there are some people that are totally more dependable than others. As for the "poppers" they get their not-welcome attitude. But seriously, nothing pisses me off more when we get a new member, we help them out with something and then a week later he's sporting a new pearl. Its not that he forever owes the LS and should always be on call, but it would be so nice to see someone give back what they get in any way possible. Its even nicer to see someone who wants something and will take the time to set up a run all on their own. We have a rdm in our LS that wanted a Joyeuse (sp?). This guy spent days getting the ToD. Him and a few others camped it, it popped and we all rushed out there and killed it with a couple other people and we were back in time for the Simpsons to come on. This rdm doesn't do gods. If anything he does dynamis here and there. I think it is possible to be "casual" but still have the dedication of a hardcore gamer when you go out and achieve what you want.

Meeze has been one of the most helpful people to me in game and an awesome friend. I've still never done gods or dynamis partly because of all the shit that goes on with it. I'm positive if it stressed me out as much as it does with a lot of people I know, I'd probably be driven out of this game as well. Whenever I was stuck with no-showers and needed some extra firepower, any time that I asked Meeze, this dude would show up, we'd get to wherever, destroy everything in sight, and done. I've had loads of fun with him doing stuff in game whether its death and destruction or just fucking around. If not for Meeze and Sora I don't know if I would have had my O Hat before I dinged 70. Same with my AJ when he showed up to kill it with me, Art, BT and a few other people. Its just like Meeze to be leaving now while I still owe him. All I got to give back to him was some AH checks and shipping and camping Coney for a couple hours. :?

The whole life > game crap is overrated. If you are that busy irl, why are you logged onto the game? When I don't have time to play or I am too busy to do something with people in game then you won't see me online. Its as simple as that. All those people that pretend to be afk suck. Selfishness will never disappear from this game and all you can do is just take that as it is. Even worse the people that time when they have to log off to how much xp. There's nothing like someone saying "I g2g in 20 min." when xping in the QSC, then they die, get raised and 10 minutes later, taking the xp lost into mind they still have to go in 20 min instead of 10. Like Meeze and Vang said, if a shell of all dedicated people were to form, I would probably set aside two nights a week (most I can really do) for farming and for the fights and finally give gods a shot. For right now though, I've lost my aspirations for any uber end game gear, relic or otherwise. Is it gonna be worth all the headaches and stress in the end when I might just wake up one day and decide to deactivate my account?

I really don't want to get into too much more. Its really sad to see you go Meeze. If it is for good this time... I can proudly say I learned a ton of shit from Meeze as far as making a profit goes and how to approach the game from other aspects xp-wise, or whatever. Go get another hard drive you bastard and pop in and say "hi" in AG here and there. Until then, here's /farewell to the biggest baddest mother fucker I know in game.
 
Good luck Meeze. I'm gonna miss arguing with you on the FB, so please at least stick around for that every once in awhile.

I was a FFXI hardcore gamer for almost 2 years. Ever since March of this year it's just been one thing after another for me, especially a helluva lot of rl funerals this past summer. Anyway, I have every intention of getting online to play and "something" friggin' always comes up. Last week it was the death of my husbands grandfather. It never fails :cry: . So yah, the 7 months or so, I have turned into one of those casual gamers and it truly sucks from my end. But what can some of us do? It's always gonna be RL >>> virtual life.

PS. Again, I've been playing this game for almost 2 years (next month) and I still get lost A LOT. Furthermore, it's much more frustrating for me than it is for any of you. I've never had this problem with any other game but this one. It really drives me nuts!!!!
 
Sad to see ya go Meeze. I wish there more players like me and you constantly wanting to experience everything the game has to offer. I dont know how much longer ill be able to last either. It seems after these past two weeks everthing has went to shit. Ujio has apparently quit and has a couple LS items that are very nice(osode and blau dotch) that we cant get back and if people dont show up for shit this week i might call it quits myself. Busting my ass non stop for people and working 20 hrs a week and school tues and thurs is finally kicking in to me. I havent received one item from anything in 3 months and all ive done is helped and not miss one event.

But ya on the issue of all shells elitest joining into one, i kinda think its funny and wouldnt work. i also dont ever see it happening. If you think about it...why would the leaders want to form into one? I can guarantee all the "leaders" or people who run the shells get all their gear before everyone else. Check the people who run the shells...they have the 1st osodes etc... If all these people joined into one they would be 2nd or 3rd down the line and im sure they wouldnt want that. But thats just what i think. Personally i think skill > gear. And thats what most these ls leaders have(gear). i personally think i can out damage any sam on the server :D even tho i dont carry osode and all the other pimped out shit. i got skill and i learned all my shit from the best (mainly ujio). Thats the problem with most the people on this server i think ...they think they are elite based on what gear they got which is why so many dam people buy gil to look pimp on a game. You can see this when u see these shells take 2-5 hrs to kill kirin and see all their people with nice gear...

Anyways had some of best times playing the game with you. Hope i see you in the future. Peace.
 
I'll miss you meeze. you'll always be one of the people I'll remember as being a nice guy, who never let anything stop him.

*hug*

if there's anything i've always appreciated about you, it's you being my friend.

have fun in real life ^^ it's a nice place usually. (have fun with PG too!)
 
I am very sorry to see you go man, but you have good reasons and I can understand why. I hope this will turn out to be temporary and you will come back after a period, but it doesn't seem that will be the case this time. I have had a lot of fun doing missions, quests, and just generally hanging arround with you. I appreciate all the help you have given me and others and the time you spent redoing AF quests and keys for me and for mutual friends. I hope you have fun with Socom 3 or whatever you decide to do with your time you will deffinitely be missed.
 
Sorry to see you go man. You were a great leader to sora and you will be missed. Take care in real life.
 
vang said:
Sucks to see you go Meeze, there was a time not long before I quit that I was going to propose the thought of making an LS but I didn't want to disrupt everyone in their current LS.

I was wanting to start one with the likes of some of your list along with Legalus who is about as elitist as they come and Decidence who is just an all around asshole. Those are the kind of people who "make it" in MMORPGs not your usual lemmings like 95% of the rest of the NA begging and cheering for fucking days off from their end game shells.

As far as RMT and Jap support that's all most of our NA shells know. It's sickening. I remember seeing a few from even the most successful NA shell on the server laughing it up and skill up with that faggot Serise.

It has become disgustingly obvious that this server will never be like the big servers where they come togethor as one or help each other out so you would have thought by now the idiots here would realize it and stop kissing Lucifar/Serises ass like many of you do.

Sometimes tyranny is the only answer. People need rules and restrictions because most of them are feeble idiots who thrive on getting their items the easiest way possible and then ditching everyone else. There have always been a select few who would help me with anything at the drop of the hat as I would have done the same for them. I thoroughly enjoyed seeing another person getting their item or their drop. That's just me. Sadly the majority of today's players do not feel the same way.

Ose is just a prime example and if you really think about it probably one of the first big examples you will ever face with greed in this game.

How many times have you xped a job in LoO and killed him as your level 60 something party or allianced up with another party only to see all 6-12 members demand to lot the jerkin? It's DISGUSTING. I don't give a damn if your mage ass helped kill him and you have "every right to lot" be a fucking man and not a bitch and help out your fellow DRG or THF and let them have the damn thing. I was a Ninja and tanked Ose 2 or 3 times through my leveling there and would get into huge arguments about how only the THF and DRG should lot the jerkin.

As far as RMT when i was in OH i was verbally warned for mpking RMT at Cassie even after they had mpk attempted on us all week. Hell lucylittle and Myhita left the LS because they went with us that ONE day, (the only day we could convince one of our lazy ass THFs Myhita to come help btw) and left the LS because they didn't agree with the MPK attempts on RMT.

Fucking pussies.

Every LS is tainted with them.
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Pretty much agree with everything here. Hell, you even dropped what you were doing once to come help me kill Ose. Even though the party next to use had a gob that suicided bombed, and ended up having to homepoint, you put your neck out for me. Not many people do that in this game unless it does them any good.
 
Oh yeah.

And as for you leaving Meeze, sad to see you go. The only thing I did with you was your Optical Hat run, but I remember it as a good time when a few of the good players I know got their hats. DRG>DRK ^^;

Take care and good luck.
 
didnt know you but sucks you leaving anyways.
At least you helped out your LS. Not like a old BoK Member Jedah who called us all worthless and pourpously got his own LS members killed. I think Jedah was the most asshole elitist guy ever in this server. >.> hated his own LS and killed them.
 
Thread is a good read.

meeze said:
I wish we could throw all the people who have the time/desire to do big things and put them all in one LS, and let everyone who "has a life" onto another.
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There is a difference between those who screwed us, and those who didin't.

Me being a casual player and being part of SoraNoHi, i'm disturbed by what you have said here Meeze. Instinctively it came very natural to me how things are being done. Which is why i insisted on being at the bottom of the roaster, as i am a person that dosn't typacally play during prime time hours, i could not attend sky events on many occasions. I contunously put myself back of the list because i knew i could not earn my sky armor as well as the majority, and even begin to exspect to recieve.

At the same time i never exspected nor had true desire to get anything out of it, simply cause there is no hope for me to gain these items in a proper and fair manner. And still i have no problem serving SoraNoHi, in or out of the main alliance. Everytime i log in and a LS event is in effect i go, and that is the best of my ability. "MY ACTIONS" in SoraNoHi is a free service to a LS that was pushing 30-35+ people. So you can imagine why i think your obvious resentment towards playing along side a gamer like me is way off. I farmed for others (not as much as you would have liked me to) but i did everytime it was in effect and i was logged in. (Which is ultra rare at prime time,i'm usually on early in the EST morning.) My very presance has been a bonus to the LS in the name of Time itself. I wanted nothing.

meeze said:
You "life" having pussies are the ones that get lost getting to ulli camp, and on the way get owned by faust so 1/2 the fucking alliance has to escape to rescue your dumb ass.
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It is very easy for me to get lost in parts of Sky when i don't have a map. And this happens to me when i log in during an event and have to catch up to participate. When i appear it is better for the whole lot of participants,and never a down side. I have been the only RDM before.

I don't know anyone in SoraNoHi that got owned by Faust while travelling. Except me. So you include me. Well when i ported up and exited the door from the tiny port chamber, Faust was right there and beat me down, i don't have a spider sence that tells me danger is hiding behind a wall, it's not like i would remain in the chaimber when i have places to be. That day i was not rescued, and i would rather return to homepoint than slow down the LS's progress.

With no complaints i made 0 gil in this LS and i recieved no super armor. I'm satisfied with whom i have met and the fun we had. Namely Corv was the one who made my savage blade quest a success, by getting some LS members to come. Even now i would still tag along just to give power to this group.

I understand your frustrated how all the people you want to party with are all spread out amoungst other end game Linkshells Meeze, and how there were people who got souped up and then left SoraNoHi, and how your efforts to excercise us to a better record never met your demands. Taking any of that out on a person like me is off. You or no one else ever had to get anything for me and i still gave my time.

So as it ends SoraNoHi's X biggest premiere powerhouse is leaving Final Fantasy with a many respectable goodbye's from others. I can take being ruffed up and called names, good or bad terms it will not make my eyes welt. Saying unpleasant things about a kind of person like me, has no true relavance to your pain. You never had much chance to get to know me, and i have no idea who or what you took me for. I just know it's not pretty and it sure as hell does not make me happy. Those who rolled by your right hand were fortunate. I on the other hand demand respect.
 
Sorry to see you go meeze.But sometimes stuff just doesn't work out.But ahh you better be back soon
 
chpal said:
didnt know you but sucks you leaving anyways.
At least you helped out your LS. Not like a old BoK Member Jedah who called us all worthless and pourpously got his own LS members killed. I think Jedah was the most asshole elitist guy ever in this server. >.> hated his own LS and killed them.
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When did this happen, Chpal? :rolleyes: lolol.
 
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