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Lol i remember the first time i realized phraust was botting - .-.he made this thread and i responded n responded n responded n responded... ehh
wolfskymoon said:
If i recall correctly alot of people called you a dumbass as well.
Oh and we had cake!
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_Neosquall_ said:
You guys are beating a dead horse on this thread btw...
Neo: its funny how you bring that up, months after the fact. RNG was my first 75 job and I asked you for help at the time I was about 55ish for AF, and you agreed. If you didn't want to "help", just say no.^^
Also, idiot, you didn't end up "helping" anyone, you d/ced before we got into Oztroja and I ended up doing it myself.
I have personally never whined to you about o. bow once . . . might have to Payne but i NEVER asked for help from either of you regarding that.
GJ distorting the facts, buddy.
What exactly is your sig about? not only are you getting a F- for your photoshop skills but you appear to be insulting one of the few people who were sticking up for you...sorta.
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Raivyn said:
Oh, he does? I'm all ears. Seriously, I've known him, though not close with him, for three years or close to it. I've heard it all but Deci is pretty damn creditable. Everyone pretty much knows this people just don't like him because they can't handle the truth in which he speaks at all times. Just my take though.
neo what are you talking about?? im not your friend ;'];[';[;'/.';]'[
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random hero said:
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Raivyn said:
That is kind of weak though. Give me something good. Also, Necro gives him the item Necro feels bad. He knows he's messed up because he has lost a pricey item. Deci just comes here a bunch of goons go, "OMG you haxxor" and in two weeks no one gives a shit and he looses nothing...then again people don't believe in spanking children these days so nevermind me. Also, ousting cheaters is a good thing. Might want to choose another word ?
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Well first you have to consider the fact that Necro and Decidence apparently have past issues with each other. Several flame threads were made by both of them aimed at each other.
Then there is the fact that decidence's name appears often on the flameboard (although not recently that I have noticed) for cheating and MPK.
Then there is the fact that his LS as well has been mentioned frequently on the flameboards (this is not a flame directed at BOL, just an observation).
Then there are the repeated mentions in this thread about decidence fish-botting and claim-botting. Numerous strange claim situations concerning Argus included.
Then there is the fact that he posts a screenshot, which if legitimate, would show that he condones blackmail and entrapment, as well as disregard for the rules of the game thereby, as an acceptable course of action. Perhaps this was further blackmail? We never see the rest of that conversation. "Pay me something or I'll post this SS on QCDN". Or maybe he just edited the text, which is easy enough to do without any advanced editing programs.
Add all this up and it's just very shaky. The way I can best describe it is a 'lack of credibility'.
I'm not saying Necrosis isn't guilty, but there isn't much here with any substance. Necrosis' self defense is the most incriminating, when one considers how an innocent person might react - but once again, credibility.
Then there is the fact that decidence's name appears often on the flameboard (although not recently that I have noticed) for cheating and MPK.
Then there is the fact that his LS as well has been mentioned frequently on the flameboards (this is not a flame directed at BOL, just an observation).
Then there are the repeated mentions in this thread about decidence fish-botting and claim-botting. Numerous strange claim situations concerning Argus included.
Then there is the fact that he posts a screenshot, which if legitimate, would show that he condones blackmail and entrapment, as well as disregard for the rules of the game thereby, as an acceptable course of action. Perhaps this was further blackmail? We never see the rest of that conversation. "Pay me something or I'll post this SS on QCDN". Or maybe he just edited the text, which is easy enough to do without any advanced editing programs.
Add all this up and it's just very shaky. The way I can best describe it is a 'lack of credibility'.
I'm not saying Necrosis isn't guilty, but there isn't much here with any substance. Necrosis' self defense is the most incriminating, when one considers how an innocent person might react - but once again, credibility.
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Raivyn said:
1)Never saw those threads and obviouly there was no proof or it would have backlashed him here.
2)He was in old BOL but left due to the crap. Then comes back when BOL starts to semi straighten their act and probably had something to do with the changing. You can't judge one person by the bubble on their head in this game and especially on our server. Guilty by associtation ya but he wasn't there in the prime badness.
3)Everyone cries when they don't get Argus. Nothing new. I think every sucessful Argus camper has been blammed at some point and time for this.
4)Nothing wrong with blackmail or entrapment for silly things such as games. I used it on my sister to get her busted with drugs so she'd stop. Sometimes it's good
Hell, you can't fight and words do nothing so you have to try and punish somehow. Disregard for the rules? He tried to punish a cheater... Lastly, I'm not exiting here to read, I'm pretty sure Necro never denied their convo or said it was illegitamate and if so didn't do a good job convincing through his known, by me, post in this thread.I dunno, I think it all boils down to not many people liking Deci. Not for things he has done so much as the bluntness of his attitude. That wouldn't contribute to a credibility loss just people thinking he's an ass. Much like vang, Deci is, but without going overboard and the humor.
But meh I guess I'll never get it.
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y helo thar Eldieme Necropolis. Remember you said it took you 500 tries to get old earring? AMIRITE LOLOLOLOLOL. gtfo /runniggaspdhax.exe
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Strid said:1)Never saw those threads and obviouly there was no proof or it would have backlashed him here.
2)He was in old BOL but left due to the crap. Then comes back when BOL starts to semi straighten their act and probably had something to do with the changing. You can't judge one person by the bubble on their head in this game and especially on our server. Guilty by associtation ya but he wasn't there in the prime badness.
3)Everyone cries when they don't get Argus. Nothing new. I think every sucessful Argus camper has been blammed at some point and time for this.
4)Nothing wrong with blackmail or entrapment for silly things such as games. I used it on my sister to get her busted with drugs so she'd stop. Sometimes it's good
I dunno, I think it all boils down to not many people liking Deci. Not for things he has done so much as the bluntness of his attitude. That wouldn't contribute to a credibility loss just people thinking he's an ass. Much like vang, Deci is, but without going overboard and the humor.
But meh I guess I'll never get it.
In a bit of a hurry but what I was getting at with the frequent flames is that there is existing animosity between the two, motive on some level.
Also there was a thread here with decidence mpking for BOL at Ulli, complete with screenshots. The thread was about 30 frickin pages and the guy changed his story about 9 times, first it was 'i didnt do it' then it was 'i was jokin when i said that' then 'they tried to mpk first' and so on etc;
He was indeed involved in many of the BoL flames i saw here in that 2-4 month time frame as well.
That mpk thread really sticks out though, almost like this thread but in the reverse.
And then his 'proof' of someone cheating is a vague conversation with someone who has a mediocre at best grasp on the english language attempting to blackmail him. Necrosis sure didn't defend himself well but I can see where there could be another side to this.
If this thread had been posted by someone like sabia or something im sure we would have no doubt that she was telling the truth, regardless of any attempted blackmail. Its the reputation and credibility issue that people are struggling with, not so much the actions etc.
Raivyn said:
i dunno... just put yourself in necro's shoes, if you were innocent, would you have replied in the same manner? i think not. if somone who is innocent is accused of something, their first thought is not appeasement but of denial.
This topic should die
Necrosis is a NM cheater and a JP fan-boy enough said
Necrosis is a NM cheater and a JP fan-boy enough said
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No Rinoah you are wrong because at that time you didn't even have FFXI lol...
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I really want to read all this guys but everyone keeps writing 2 paragraphs+. Can everyone take their thoughts and cram it into 1 sentence for me? Thank you