New Combo for big points in Campaign

[Wakmidget1]

I read a post on BG by Izzy about Mystic Boon and campign, so I decided to try it out.
And it's awesome. All I did was spam cure people and WS with Mystic Boon for MP, never had to rest. and melee'd the whole time. Last few campign's I did that didn't actually last 1 min I have gotten amazing results. 1st one I did I got liek 1200 EXP and 1265 Allied Notes iirc......than a couple 1 min campign's I got like 200/500/800ish. Last two campign's I fought I got 2012/1414 and 2300/1564.
Mystic Boon owns in campaign.

 

[Courtney]

So Mystic Boon breaks the hard Campaign caps on experience?

 

[K. Ishitar]

not sure what the cap is a friend of mine got 4k last night on his pup long as fight of course for it

edit just got 4.5k from a fight now that's been going on for at least an hour just refreshed tags

 

[Davion]

I got 2000+ to 3000+ one night as WHM/SAM just spaming Haste/Hasso/Meditate and Retribution and doing the usual Cure and Raising of people I did refresh tags in between waves.

 

[Wakmidget1]

These numbers we're just with one wave campaigns.

 

[K. Ishitar]

mine was as well, i was teh only one in batailla downs for about an hour soloing a curaisser and dying twice until after unweakening more people came

 

[Marajade]

So Mystic Boon breaks the hard Campaign caps on experience?

Not really, but it does let WHM gain exp constantly, thus being able to consistantly get the maximum exp possible from a campaign. You're getting credit for doing melee damage, and credit for healing people at the same time, rather than just getting one of the other.

 

[Rappa]

I'm not understanding this topic. I have no trouble maxing my xp gain on whm without Mystic Boon. As long as you manage your mp you'll be fine.

 

[Marajade]

I'm not understanding this topic. I have no trouble maxing my xp gain on whm without Mystic Boon. As long as you manage your mp you'll be fine.

The problem was, for me at least, it was much harder to do unless some NPC's showed up that I could curebomb and not take hate. Most people who're tanking in Campaign don't do so unless they have some means of healing themselves, either /whm, /dnc, or another party member to keep them alive. Yes I can tab for targets, but its not the most effective. On the other side, if I'm meeleing, I need to break off to rest after a whle of curing myself from AoE damage/healing people around me. Mysic Boon doesn't let you gain more than is possible, but makes it easier to hit the cap, and more consistantly.

 

[Moink]

Never had a problem of MP either... sup /SCH

 

[Jingizu]

Why would you need to have waited for a new ws to get good results in campaign? On my whm I've always managed to cure people, raise people, debuff mobs(omg yes I cast para and silence, which stick, who'd of thunk it? >.>) and swing away with staff at same time. Spirit taker giving back the mp.

Btw, what, exactly is supposed to be the hard cap because, without tags being refreshed I can get over 2500 exp in a single campaign while my husband on nin hits over 3500 exp w/o getting new tags. I think the cap has long since been raised to the point that there is no real danger of reaching any limit, unless, you're doing only one action over and over again.

 

[Courtney]

With the highest medal the cap is 90exp per minute total experience. If you're above level 60 and your ratio of experience to AN isn't 2:1 then you're experience has been capped.

It's pretty hard for mages to stay at this cap (there's caps on individual actions though, and they're exp per battle caps, not exp per time) over a longer battle, because a lot of the experienced gained is dependant on MP which runs out, but it's very easy to hit the cap (and therefore waste your exp) during short battles.

 

[K. Ishitar]

i dont get it what you're saying entirely, if that's true then how come you can get more experience past the 2:1 ratio?

i've been able to get over 4k in some fights due to length without refreshing tags and in somewhat shorter past 2k but i know if i was there longer i'd be able to get the same results

 

[Courtney]

I don't understand your question. I've never seen seen more than a 2:1 ratio of exp:AN in Campaign (with about 300k AN earned).

If you've exceeded the total experience cap, you get less than 2:1 because you get the AN but not the experience. I'm not actually sure what the limit in a fight, without renewing tags actually is, because each type of exp gained has its own cap (and some types may be uncapped).

If you exceed the individual type caps though, you stop getting both exp and AN, <2:1 exp:AN only tells you you've exceeded the total exp cap (or you're <level 61).

 

[K. Ishitar]

i think you answered it, had to reread what i said and what you said.

I thought you said that when you break the ratio for experience and AN past 2:1 then you have your capped exp. I was saying that I've had instances where I got past 2:1 ratio and that wasn't my capped exp, that was dictated by the duration of the battle itself and if it lasted longer then I could have gotten higher exp.

I noticed this on the same job (rdm/whm) fighting in an hour long battle at batailla downs for 4.5k exp and an irregular amount of AN (2.4k i think) and then later I fought a battle for 3.1k exp and another amount of irregular AN.

I'll check my screenshots and get back to you though

 

[Keryan]

I had no problem reaching 2k+ per round as whm/smn using spirit taker. Avatar belt = free avatar. fenrir can dispel even at SJ level. I would use Garuda to AoE cure the npc/players. Also ramuh AoE thunderspark?? would damage around 130. Adds up pretty nice. You also have 3 tick refresh if you have sigil and a nobles added to smn auto refresh. It is nice to see there are more options for whm in campaigns now.