New Job Potential

Anderithe

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I've been thinking a lot over the course of months how new jobs could effect the game, and for the sake of not starting an unintelligent debate I've refrained. In my own ponderings I've had trouble justifying most of my ideas, with one exception.

One of the jobs I've often thought about would be a Rune Knight or Shrine Knight... they've been around in a few of the Final Fantasy games.

I'm just pitching the job for it's merits, so read on with interest/disinterest:

[What does it do?] *I.E.- Jumps, absorbs, special attacks, magic, ect.

The Rune Knight would be blessed with mage abilities while it is a melee. Much as a Paladin is benefitted healing and Dark Knights their absorbs, this job would benefit from Red Mage abilities.

[How would it be different?]

The Rune Knight would specialize in normal and great swords, and would be able to utilize en, bar, and other spells that melee don't normally use.

[Why would someone take a Rune Knight?]

Well, the basic level distribution of abilities might work like a Dragoon with an attack up bonus, and then an accuracy bonus following. Later on though, they would get abilities making them more party friendly, the first one being Blitz at level thirty-seven when jobs like Paladin, Ninja, and Dark Knight get critical spells.

Basically, Blitz would be an ability by many names in Final Fantasy games. It would take the difference between you maximum health, and you current health, and then deal that as damage to your enemy.

The point of the Blitz spell, as well as eventually stoneskin and refresh as well *Yes, I'm nuts O_O* in later levels, would be to make a melee fighter that had a specific spellcasting role in the party. Effective use of Stonekin and Blitz could compensate for not being able to match up to other DD, as well as change the way certain moves such as Trick Attack and Jump are used.

Being able to jerk the hate from a Paladin and not get dropped/lose shadows/have to shed hate would play a part in skillchains, pt's with thieves and ninjas, and even provide an emergency method to gain hate.

[Wait, a DD that can cast Refresh and... Blitz? Are you mad?!]

Not really, I don't think anyone would argue that there are currently only TWO refresh whores in the game RDM/BRD. The multi-facet problem I have with that is that it creates not only a dependency on those two jobs, but also leaves less room for melee.

**Not to mention all the people who can get away with the War/Whm equivelent of Mage'dom because of it.**

Also, the point of the job would be a melee that has to take part in all the roles of the group. The Rune Knight in a party with a Thief, Paladin, Black Mage, White Mage, and ect would have to work with each of the members in a very efficient manner.

[Everyone would want to play this job then... over-powered.]

Take a Rdm/Blm that knows how to burst well. It fits the same role, it just hits the mob instead of enfeebling it.

...I myself am afraid I've presented the idea in a poor way. I may just like it and not see it's flaws. Regardless, it was driving me crazy, figured I'd share it with everyone. Please, just take it easy one me, as I could have fetched my more hair-brained schemes on you all.

*sigh*
 
Only real problem is that the 'Blitz' ability could easily be exploited - If you went RDM and subbed the job, Convert -> Blitz....yeah. =P

Otherwise it seems kinda like a WAR or DRK with RDM sub =\
 
Mishaela said:
Only real problem is that the 'Blitz' ability could easily be exploited - If you went RDM and subbed the job, Convert -> Blitz....yeah. =P

Otherwise it seems kinda like a WAR or DRK with RDM sub =\

Feel free to do so at seventy-four. :P
 
if something like that happen to come out in the game.....sorry poor rdm are out of job hahahaha

a dd that can use refresh and enfeebing.......pretty powerful

in some case....too powerful compare to other jobs. i bet that job will take up 60% of player's time

and other DDs will be gone, do to the fact Rune knight can do around they damage and got some nice stuff they will never have.

well it is not a bad idea, just need to fix something about the overpower.

and it might be a new tanking job, can take over pld's place in a party too.

stone skin and other nice stuff that rdm can have as main, and a dd has it??? man ^^ will love to see it sometime...............
 
I would like a sort of RDM-WAR hybrid, but similar to the WHM-WAR and BLM-WAR hybrids known as PLD and DRK, its magic wouldn't be anywhere near as good as RDM.

My thoughts...

Main magic would be Enfeebling and Enhancing, but only A- rank or less in both. Weapon would be A+ in GSword and A- in Sword. Main spells would be weak nukes (nothing higher than level 2 nukes), cures (nothing above cure 3), banish (1 and 2), regen 1, protect and shell series (no earlier than PLD), various debuffs, and en-spells at the same level or earlier than RDM. Maybe include a second line of en-spells for this job only. Note that Refresh is missing from this list - this is a DD/tank hybrid, similar to WAR, not a support job.
 
Forgot to mention...Blitz seems more like a MNK thing (picturing Sabin)


When I think Rune Knight, I think of FFT, wherein what'd probably suit them most would be an en-spell, except maybe the enspell adds 10% of a certain debuff per hit or something...just my opinion...
 
instead of giving them refresh, why not give them a job ability that grands them a kind of refresh?

maybe refresh, that can only be used 1 every 5 minutes and lasts for the same duration of refresh?
 
that's why RDM should get a Refreshga!!!! ^^v that could compete with that job's refreshing abilities too ^^ and of coarse a RDM would have the bestest enfeebling ^^v I always thought it'd be cool if they added more jobs from FFT.. atleast the geomancers ^^v they need necromancers too ^^v and other cool stuffu.. BERSKERS!!! ^^v and um.. ya anyways^^v
 
Two notes:

1. I never said they'd have nefeeblements, the idea was the en/bar/spikes spells.

2. Yes, this would have tanking application. Wouldn't be able to take a hit like a Paladin, and wouldn't have healing/flash... so it's be it's own job there.

3. Blitz is named because flash/shock which the spell is commonly called are taken.

4. Blitz isn't overpowered as it would draw hate even with a recast. Considering it does more dmg as you lose more hp... not a good thing to draw hate with all the time. Maybe make it a JA though.

5. Refresh at fifty wouldn't steal a Red Mages appeal. Red Mages can heal, debuff, magic burst, and have phalanx. If all a Red Mage can do is cast Refresh they are a pretty crappy Red Mage IMHO.

6. If you noticed the suggested trait build I was suggesting those of a Dragoon, a job notorious for being strong at the get go, and tapering off as it gets abilities.

The thing I like about it is that I don't think it'd take the role of any other job. However, it would be able to fill multiple roles. Refresh whore, tank, dd, trick partner.

Kind of be a cure for those 'we got every job but *THIS* one' parties.
 
Elemmire said:
that's why RDM should get a Refreshga!!!! ^^v that could compete with that job's refreshing abilities too ^^ and of coarse a RDM would have the bestest enfeebling ^^v I always thought it'd be cool if they added more jobs from FFT.. atleast the geomancers ^^v they need necromancers too ^^v and other cool stuffu.. BERSKERS!!! ^^v and um.. ya anyways^^v

^^v
 
new job should be a martial-arts kung-fu actionflic-esque job, something that can use nunchaku, sai's (think mileena from MK2), etc.

new weaponskills for these new weapons, new abilities, etc.

seriously, they need to just start looking at popular fighting games and make characters with those types of styles and designs.

surprised nobody has ever mentioned this

edit: and they need to add a new tank job, seriously
something that can go all the way to end-game, and still be effective end-game on gods and shit

tired of the nin vs pld debates, and/or seeing mobs that heavily favor a certain job (i.e. byakko/seiryu & PLD, suzaku & NIN)
 
PLD/NIN pwns XD anyways.. I still think Berserkers would be a cool class ^^ or a geomancer or necromancer class.. so many classes that could be added..not just fighting.. but other RPG games.. D&D is an OBVIOUS one XD
 
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