The difference for a lvl 65 to get to 75 is 50K XP between the old and new scale. In terms of level, its only really a difference of being level 75 and being level 75 capped with a 6k XP difference. Overall, its a 6k XP advantage which isnt much at all.
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Decided to move this to the flameboard, and just one more quick note, please remember the no post count bumping rule.
Suprised this thread has reached 36 pages, but I read it all, and I decided it should stay open for discussion, seeing as a majority of people are still downloading the patch and such, I'm still waiting to see the real change in the XP system for myself. I'm not a high level, and I really never did plan to be one, so while I do welcome the change, I can sort of understand why level 75's would be upset by this.
Anyway, just wanted to make a quick reply, and just letting you all know if you got something to say, please contribute to the topic, just don't simply come in here to bash someone and thats it, this thread has potential IMO, I hope it doesn't become one that I'll have to lock.
Suprised this thread has reached 36 pages, but I read it all, and I decided it should stay open for discussion, seeing as a majority of people are still downloading the patch and such, I'm still waiting to see the real change in the XP system for myself. I'm not a high level, and I really never did plan to be one, so while I do welcome the change, I can sort of understand why level 75's would be upset by this.
Anyway, just wanted to make a quick reply, and just letting you all know if you got something to say, please contribute to the topic, just don't simply come in here to bash someone and thats it, this thread has potential IMO, I hope it doesn't become one that I'll have to lock.
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Here's one that does make sense.
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Peregrine said:
Who said that I'd done nothing? I've been going on Dynamis twice a week, doing HNM's, helping people with quests. I said that I hadn't gotten anything special from being 75. I can wear my relic maul, great, but I'm not going to upgrade it so that's pointless. I was actually wrong before, when I hit 75, I coudl start using reraise 3.
Don't make blatant assumptions, if there is a "hey you're 75" reward, I haven't seen it yet. With the exception of merits, there is nothing special about being 75. Maybe when you get there you'll see that.
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I'm not talking about 75 the specific level. I'm talking about beastmasters soloing for harpes. I'm talking about 6 member parties taking down million dollar mobs, and duos whipping aquarius. I'm talking farming in Lufaise with absolute immunity. Stealing gold coins and then soloing the mob who dropped it. Dynamis. God runs. Optical runs. Relics. Missions. Quests. Linkshells. Friends. Connections. Fame. Assets. That level 75, not merit point 75.
I'm not talking about the difference between 74 and 75. That's silly. I'm talking about the difference between 60 and 75.
I'm not talking about the difference between 74 and 75. That's silly. I'm talking about the difference between 60 and 75.
My NIN went from having 13k TNL to having 4.5k TNL from this patch currently at Lv64.
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I'm level 58 (stated once again, and obvious in my sig) and I do not like the changes. They do benefit me actaully, since now it wont take as long to level up, but I was looking foward to that time to be honest. I can level whenever I want. I really isnt that hard, nor was it that hard before the update. Sometimes there are those days when you spend a long time waiting, it happens. I deal with that and am usually rewarded with a good partying experience and even if the party isn't so stellar I have a saying to make myself feel better. "Any exp is good exp."
Though I won't deny awesome parties make for a much more enjoyable experience.
Not to sound selfish, but I'm trying to save up 2 mil to buy a hauby (haubergeon sp?) and I've never ever had that much gil at one time before. It's hard enough just saving up the gil, so when I make this purchase it's for a few different and important reasons.
1) It's a must have for Dark Knights, it's lvl 59 to wear and while some Drks wait till lvl 60 before saving up for this I want it as soon as I can wear it. I always have my gear before I level... I like to be prepared.
2) There isn't anything better other than the +1 version and considering the price is double the NQ.. I'm not waiting that damn long to save up gil, i've been waiting long enough and unless someone magically hands me an extra 2 mil, getting a hauby +1 anytime soon is a dream, obtaining the NQ sooner is much more of a reality.
3) (and to tie into the level spectrum here) The hauby is good from lvl 59-68. At 69 is the Hauberk, higher level version essentially the same item with higher defense. (dont remember exact stats) From 59-68 are or atleast were crutial stages in the game and generally took some time to get through. This was good though, as it would have made the 2 mil purchase seem a lot more worthwhile, and id be able to get the most out of my gear for quite a long time before having to upgrade and spend even more of a rediculas amount of gil on the next best peice of eq needed.
But now it's not quite the same. Sure, I am still going to get the hauby. I need it if im going to level and do the best I can, but it isn't going to last nearly as long because it's even easier to level through what used to be a crucial stage. The old exp system took more time, but because it did One could learn more about the abilities they were gaining in these times. Learn to better know what to do in certain instances because they had more experience in them.
I feel almost cheated that I won't even be able to get all that experience now. Experience others that have already past that point may have, and I may or may not be able to fully get the same experiences or hone my skills quite as much, because now it takes less time.
It doesn't even really matter now if the party I join ends up being awful, okay, or fantastic. Infact, a fantastic party means faster exp (which is good yes) but also means I may be missing out on really testing my skills in varied parties like before just because im in one that's really zooming. That's part of the partying experience, that's part of the experiencing the game to me. Understanding all the different parties and people mechanics. Playing and enjoying all that, it won't last as long now. Not on one job anyway. I wan't to enjoy my one job to the fullest before moving foward with another, but how much experience (and I dont mean Exp) cant I gain if the partying sessions can zoom through levels faster now.
Do you understand this feeling? This is how I feel, and it isn't as good as before.. but maybe I can get past it. I dunno.
Though I won't deny awesome parties make for a much more enjoyable experience.
Not to sound selfish, but I'm trying to save up 2 mil to buy a hauby (haubergeon sp?) and I've never ever had that much gil at one time before. It's hard enough just saving up the gil, so when I make this purchase it's for a few different and important reasons.
1) It's a must have for Dark Knights, it's lvl 59 to wear and while some Drks wait till lvl 60 before saving up for this I want it as soon as I can wear it. I always have my gear before I level... I like to be prepared.
2) There isn't anything better other than the +1 version and considering the price is double the NQ.. I'm not waiting that damn long to save up gil, i've been waiting long enough and unless someone magically hands me an extra 2 mil, getting a hauby +1 anytime soon is a dream, obtaining the NQ sooner is much more of a reality.
3) (and to tie into the level spectrum here) The hauby is good from lvl 59-68. At 69 is the Hauberk, higher level version essentially the same item with higher defense. (dont remember exact stats) From 59-68 are or atleast were crutial stages in the game and generally took some time to get through. This was good though, as it would have made the 2 mil purchase seem a lot more worthwhile, and id be able to get the most out of my gear for quite a long time before having to upgrade and spend even more of a rediculas amount of gil on the next best peice of eq needed.
But now it's not quite the same. Sure, I am still going to get the hauby. I need it if im going to level and do the best I can, but it isn't going to last nearly as long because it's even easier to level through what used to be a crucial stage. The old exp system took more time, but because it did One could learn more about the abilities they were gaining in these times. Learn to better know what to do in certain instances because they had more experience in them.
I feel almost cheated that I won't even be able to get all that experience now. Experience others that have already past that point may have, and I may or may not be able to fully get the same experiences or hone my skills quite as much, because now it takes less time.
It doesn't even really matter now if the party I join ends up being awful, okay, or fantastic. Infact, a fantastic party means faster exp (which is good yes) but also means I may be missing out on really testing my skills in varied parties like before just because im in one that's really zooming. That's part of the partying experience, that's part of the experiencing the game to me. Understanding all the different parties and people mechanics. Playing and enjoying all that, it won't last as long now. Not on one job anyway. I wan't to enjoy my one job to the fullest before moving foward with another, but how much experience (and I dont mean Exp) cant I gain if the partying sessions can zoom through levels faster now.
Do you understand this feeling? This is how I feel, and it isn't as good as before.. but maybe I can get past it. I dunno.
Falsey said:
Kind of... I dont wanna feel any less accomplished levelling my job now then I was with my Black Mage or Ranger...
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decidence said:
I dont think you should be man. You should be glad of 2 great accomplishments prior to this currect project of yours, be proud.
Seeings how much I hate to EXP and PT for hours on end,this is good news to me, anyone like me.
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I know I can't be the only one who feels like I do. And why the **** does it it feel like everything ive posted today has been ignored? :evil:
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lol this is totally off topic but Sephectja that lil graphic you had in your post made my day... LOL.... oh man good ol qcdn always there when i need a good laugh /salute Sephectja XD