Ninja is getting nerfed!

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Chains of Promathia, the second FINAL FANTASY XI expansion pack, is almost here!

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- The effect of the ninjutsu Utsusemi will be completely removed by area attacks.

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Well, if they Nerf blink tanking, maybe i might play one some time.
People seem to forget all the nice enfeebles Ninja's have ... but hey, nin's HAVE to spend 500 GIL EVERY FIGHT, because that's how SE wanted it, right ?
 
Ya, I dont see this as such a bad thing. It will let ninjas do other things that so many people have forgotten about, but will make PLD all the more desirable.

-Ham :shock:
 
NOW they decide to give PLD Raise at 50!!!! /shakes his head.. oh well better late then never hehehe. I wish they gave PLD's Shell IV as well :cry: :cry:
 
I'm happy about Etudes becoming single target songs for Bard. I have give my mages or whoever the song that is best suited to them and not have to worry about crazy positioning^^
 
jazper said:
NOW they decide to give PLD Raise at 50!!!! /shakes his head.. oh well better late then never hehehe. I wish they gave PLD's Shell IV as well :cry: :cry:
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There may be something else to this, lowering raise1 to 50 so they can give you raise 2 at 75
 
~Ga spells ALREADY removed Utsusemi entirely.

Now, physical AE that Utsusemi used to absorb will remove it entirely also.'


THIS DOES NOT RUIN NIN TANKING.

Area Effect eats all of your active shadows at once. Period.
Now quickly, hit your Utsusemi: NI macro.
 
Keits, I am sure you have already noticed that we would welcome Nin-Tanking being nerfed. Why are you replying to this in this specific Manner ? Do you WISH to discourage us ? Do you WISH that we not try Nin ? Do you have to bring "Curent Situations" into every SPECULATIVE THOUGHT ?
Or do you have the Feeling that you have to Correct EVERYTHING that is being said ? Right now we are working under Assumptions. the Field is open to any Speculations. No Matter what impression you get.
 
I think Keits realizes, as I do, that the only thing a nin does well is tank. It doesn't cost much to be a nin tank either. It's costs a tad bit more than it does to be a RNG if you want to be a good blink tank. I realize that's too much gil for some people, but if you want to be a damage dealer, a NIN needs shiruken, which will be a LOT more expensive than just blink tanking and throwing 1 or 2 shiruken every other fight.

There's also the problem of getting your hands on enough shiruken to last a full night. It won't be so hard until you get to Juji shiruken though. At 17k per stack and at least 3-4 stacks per night, it's not going to be anywhere near cheap. If you were expecting your katanas to magically make you a DD, then I guess we'll be seing you sitting in Jeuno LFP for a very long time. ^^
 
Oh, and I think it has more to do with refuting the subject of this thread. This will NOT ruin blink tanking. It'll just make it tougher to blink tank anything with AE skills.
 
As any NIN knows, AOE attack already went THROUGH blink. Utsusemi has never absorbed a gobbibomb. Now it just removes remainng shadows. Not gonna ruin blink tanking by any means but maybe, just maybe, taking a little bit of the ninja's endgame away. Which is good imo, since nin has too much going for in in the endgame.

Read the sig. I love nin, and i want to take it to 75, but also, i think nin (and by some extention /nin) is TOO powerful in the endgame. WTF a 75 MNK/NIN can tank Bune (wyvern in gustav tunnel, think guivre but rougher) but it will eat a 75 pld in god-gear. I have seen this with my own 2 eyes. That makes no sense.

Also paves the way for a possible utsusemi: san which i hope never to see. Since :Ni is already too damn powerful.
 
I don't think it "ruins" Nin, but of the changes they've made to jobs, it looks like they decided to ease up on the other jobs they've changed, but toughen up a little on Nin.

As a low-level Nin, I'm used to partying with players who don't understand blink-tanking and have to explain it to them -- and I also explain problems of AOE attacks and would encourage the party to consider what types of mobs we pull based on what this will do to the Nin's ability to protect the party from damage.

Even mobs that can use AOE attacks, like Gobi Bombs, don't always use them. When they do use them it's usually just once in the fight -- a rare gob will do it twice.

I just wish Nin wasn't as expensive as it is. I'm still under level 20, and easily chewing through 5000g each time I join an XP party. I understand there's a trade off that we use "tools" instead of MP, but I wish it wasn't as expensive as it is. Dedication to Nin is what *forced* me to seek better ways to earn gil and try to get a little more serious about leveling some crafts.
 
As many pointed out, AOE spells already nullfy Utsusemi shadows. The update will just make physical AE attack act the same.

If SE does this, I wonder if it will have the same effect as aoe spells does on Utsusemi shadows. Will the damage from AE physical attack be absorb by all the shadows? Just like AOE spells damage are absorb by all the shadows, while the ninja doesn't take damage.

If so, wouldn't it mean that SE is reinforcing Ninja's role as a tank?

Just a thought. In the end, Ninja tanking is here to stay. Even with this so-called nerf.
 
Quick ellah, yell at everyone else who decided to inform you that this wont hurt NIN tanks much, if at all. :roll:
 
I realize that's too much gil for some people, but if you want to be a damage dealer, a NIN needs shiruken, which will be a LOT more expensive than just blink tanking and throwing 1 or 2 shiruken every other fight
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I think that alot of the people who are against blink tanking really just want a job where all they gotta do is hit autoattack and then watch some TV.
 
??? what the hell just happened here?


To beat an already long dead and mutilated horse: This just makes blink tanking more desirable i think.

Poor horse....never saw it coming.....

Anyone else wanna throw in the same thing that's been said 7+ times already?
 
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