Ninja Lotter Warning

Archmage

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Tonight during SpiftasticAdventure's Dynamis-Sandoria run one of our members, Prade, decided that the lotting rules didn't apply to him. I am posting this as a warning to all other end game shells so that they can judge if they wish for someone who behaves in the manner he has to be a member of their shell.

We had a 100 coin drop during a pull that was quickly turning into a wipe. I know anyone who has done dynamis is aware of the chaos that situation can create. This was Prade's 3rd run with our shell, however due to his desire to spend his time camping a NM rather than coming to dynamis after his 1st run (an unexcused absence per our shell's attendence policy) he still did not have lotting rights with our shell. He lotted the 100 coin (as did 2 others, the only ones still up able to lot) and won the lot, resulting in the coin dropping to him. We decided that since the coin dropped during a wipe the coin would be kept until after the run and those who had 100 coin lotting set for the zone would /random for it. When it was explained to him he shouldn't have lotted due to his attendance issues he decided he wasn't going to give up the coin. He was asked repeatedly to give the coin to an officer, and he flatly refused. I myself went to where he was (he had gone back to the beginnin of the zone) and refused to trade me the 100 coin. Having wasted enough time on this issue I D2'd him, broke his ls pearl, and got us back on track to continue with our run.

Prade decided to come back into the zone (he still had his hourglass) and try to continue with our shell's run. He claimed he wanted to return the coin in shouts. While he was in the zone again another 100 coin dropped, and he proceeded to lot it as well. He lost that lot thankfully. He came to where we were then camped and via tell told me he'd return the coin in exchange for a new pearl and not being kicked. At this point his fate was already sealed and he was no longer welcome in our shell both by agreement of the officers as well as the general member base. I invited him back into my party, traded him a new ls pearl and he then gave me the 100 coin in exchange. Once the coin was safely back in our ls' hands I promptly D2'd him again and broke his pearl again. It was obvious we weren't going to be able to trust him in the future and I explained this to him in tells. He did finally return the coin however such actions can not be tolerated in a end game shell.

I'd suggest any shell that Prade applies to in the future carefully consider his behavior while he was with our shell. Maybe he was having a bad day, however that is still no excuse for the way he behaved.

Additionally ss of the conversation have been taken and will be posted in this thread as soon as they are sent to me by those who took them during the run. As a ps2 player I was unable to take ss of the conversations that resulted from Prade's actions.
 
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That doesn't sound like Prade <.<;
 
Uzor said:
That doesn't sound like Prade <.<;

Yeah... I'd be curious to hear his side of the story. I wasn't real good friends with him, but he always seemed like a pretty good dude.
 
Wow, do people think before doing stupid shit like this? "lets see, if i take this 100coin when im not supposed to, i will never be excepted into another dynamis shell...LETS DO IT!"
 
What an idiot, not only did he get kicked from the shell, he didnt even get the coin, i dont understand why people would try to fuck over an entire LS and think nothing is going to happen? This guy just screwed himself over in the end, even if his side is good or believable his rep is tarnished for {long time}
 
That's pretty shitty, Arch. Sorry you had to deal with that.

A lot of us have seen similar stuff. My favorite is the guy that tries to lot on something that is about to sort out to whoever won the lot at the last second during a chaotic situation, someone sees it, and they go "oops lol I meant to pass" yet they have said job at like 73 and/or haven't got a coin in a long time.

It kinda sucks going out to do a dynamis when you know you're not going to get anything out of that particular run, yes, but it's all for the good of the shell. A lot of people just don't understand team efforts. Unfortunate side effect when parents do not employ the word "No" while raising their children.
 
Here are the screenshots which clearly show his attitude, and the responses our dynamis LS was met with, after numerous times of asking him to trade the coin back after it had dropped to him.

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Prade felt that while 90% of his party was dead lying around him and unable to lot, that his lot was fair. Regardless of who had lotted at that time, it had already been decided that we would wait until the end of the run so that those that were dead, but entitled to lot on the 100c for that run, could have a chance.

The second point, which we tried to explain to Prade was that he didn't have lotting priviliges because he had made a decision on what was suppose to be his 2nd run, to camp an NM instead of coming with our LS to do our Bastok run. (One of the reasons: "I can't lot this run anyways" quoted by him when asked why he didn't come that night)

As a result, his lotting rights were revoked and as per our rules, he would need to participate in 2 more consecutive runs to show his commitment to our LS. Last night would of been his 2nd consecutive run since his lotting rights were revoked, and he would then be able to lot on his 3rd run.

A dynamis LS is only successful when people work together as a team, and everyone gives it their all. Prade not only showed that he was self serving but that he can not be trusted as he does not listen to those that are in charge of the LS.

Anyone that does dynamis knows the costs that go into hosting these events. Its a waste of people's time, as well as the person who pays for the hour glass if not everyone shows up because you really need everyone to come together and work as a team. Unfortunately "not showing just because you can't lot and don't feel like coming" is not a valid reason to miss dynamis, and if you're too ignorant to go to the forum and read up on the rules when the LS Forum is mentioned in the LS message, that's your own fault. Everyone has to be responsible to a degree, and understanding your dynamis shell's rules is something anyone who signs up should always do before joining.

In the end i'm glad he's not running with us anymore. We have a great group of people that show run after run, even when in the beginning we had a rough start. Those are the people that are deserving of rewards like the 100c, and AF. I'm very thankful that I do dynamis with people that are determined to work as a team, have some fun, and aren't solely playing for their own agenda.
 
Hah, this makes the Tullboy flame look like a bunch of trash. I wish all those clowns from that topic would come to this one. This is an example of a guy that deserved to be kicked, Tullboys was not.

Whisp?
 
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Tim Wakefield said:
Hah, this makes the Tullboy flame look like a bunch of trash. I wish all those clowns from that topic would come to this one. This is an example of a guy that deserved to be kicked, Tullboys was not.

Whisp?

Tullboy didn't get kicked. He left the shell because he was sooo offended when they questioned his honesty for stealing a coin.
 
Kelyon said:
Did the LS leader ever respond in the thread, i never saw the Tullboy thread

The thread is called Dynamis Power. It was Tullboy doing the flaming at first.
 
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