No SAM update?

[Lyall]

I'm a little surprised. As soon as I saw the mention of the two new WHM "stances" I was reminded alot of Scholar's Light and Dark arts. A one-minute recast ability that lasts two hours and augments your job in one direction either an "offensive" role of a "defensive" role?

I for /sure/ expected Samurai to get a similar treatment for Hasso and Seigan. They're the original "stance" abilities! They've been in the game forever!

I think WoW lured me into a false sense of security when they buffed a lot of player-targeted abilities. I fully expected SAM to get some love.

 

[StanDarsh]

I don't think Sam needs anything more than it already has lol..

 

[Khajit]

Whoosh?

 

[ds083roadkill]

hasso and seigan have not been in the game forever... thier still technically "new" in my eyes

 

[Icewolf]

I think your batshit insane if you think sam needs an update.

 

[Lyall]

Oh, I don't think they /need/ anything. I just thought they'd follow suit and make all the "stance" type abilities have the same duration.

 

[Zoolander]

Yea lol...Hasso and Seigan to me are not that old at all, and...

I think your batshit insane if you think sam needs an update.

^This pretty much lol


I was kind of hoping there would be a Ninja job update...its the only job I have(and in game just about) that has only been gimped (shadow reducing enmity) and never received anything of value pretty much since the games release.

 

[mdkuser]

sam is the most powerfull/most seeked after/and most popular DD atm.. don't need buffs.

 

[Lyall]

Not to instigate, but someone show me where I said SAM needed anything. I was just expressing that I thought SE would give the SAM stances the same treatment as the RDM, WHM and SCH ones.

 

[Rips]

Pfffft. It's just Sam you guys!


*Hides*

 

[Zethren]

spamurai needs a nerf, that's what they need!!!!!!

 

[Jeska]

I think WoW lured me into a false sense of security when they buffed a lot of player-targeted abilities. I fully expected SAM to get some love.

Sam has had sooo much love they are in bed with SE.

Poor Sam, lets have a collection for the poor little DD that asked for more...

 

[Tyrath]

Hasso and Seigan are the original "stance" abilities. So why do they need an update? They were just the first ones put in

 

[Bajaratt]

Hasso and Seigan are the original "stance" abilities. So why do they need an update? They were just the first ones put in

I think he just wanted them to be 2 hour buffs like all of the other stances, rather than 5 minutes. If not, then yeah, they don't need to be changed at all.

 

[Skaw]

Hasso and Seigan are the original "stance" abilities. So why do they need an update? They were just the first ones put in

Counterstance would like to have a word with you, sir. Hell, "Stance" is part of it's name. Defender and Berserk could also technically be considered stances as well, if we're basing it off of a "gain something positive with a negative effect to something else" definition.

 

[Stevedizzle]

Lol let's not forget the patch SAM got that included Sekkanoki >.> That's SAMs 2hr right there minus 100tp (if you got a 300tp that is)

 

[Zethren]

told ya bra, them sams need a nerf

 

[Tyrath]

Counterstance would like to have a word with you, sir. Hell, "Stance" is part of it's name. Defender and Berserk could also technically be considered stances as well, if we're basing it off of a "gain something positive with a negative effect to something else" definition.

This is why I had "stance" in quotes. Just having stance in the name doesn't make it a stance ability in the way we're talking about in this thread. We're talking about abilities that each give you different benefits but can't be up while the other is up. Berserk and Defender don't count because they don't remove the other, only negate it.

 

[Skaw]

Counterstance still fits the bill then. You can either have increased counter rate and shit defense, or not.

 

[Lyall]

I think he just wanted them to be 2 hour buffs like all of the other stances, rather than 5 minutes. If not, then yeah, they don't need to be changed at all.

I never said I wanted, I said I expected.

Counterstance still fits the bill then. You can either have increased counter rate and shit defense, or not.

This is correct, pretend I ninja-edited to include Counterstance. Also, make counterstance a 2hour duration. >.>