npc update

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so it been a couple week now just wondering if anyone found anything new about npc ie: quest, equipment...

when i chat to my npc it keep talking about the dragon and the little girl are you all getting same message :?:

mine is currently 33 and was wearing the lvl 40 plate armor but change to the lvl 1 rse :cry:

also have upgraded weapon from butterfly axe -> greataxe
 
They added the ability to upgrade the shield if you want in place of one or both of the weapon upgrades. Other than that nothing beyond the headgear selection has happened. The npc has a few random line it says (the dragon and girl being one of them) when you talk with it. Probably have to wait for the next content update.
 
Sure would be nice if they would adjust the xp gain to where people couldn't "powerlevel" their npcs off mobs at lvl 75. That's just dumb, and it wouldn't work with regular players so it shouldn't work with npcs. :(
 
That would be an absolute pain in the butt. Maybe if these were actually useful for something, but trying to exp them like a normal player would be rediculously slow. How much fun would it be trying to form an exp party for just 20 kills a day. Yeah, I really want to spend hours messing with that every day.
 
You can switch your weapon as many times as you like. When you get to the "first list" (6 total calls), you can fork over things from that list, and when you get to the "second list" (6 more, 12 total calls), you can no longer fork over things from the first list, but you can fork over things from the second. Despite the fact that some second-list things have worse stats than their first list counterparts (great katanas for example), they still work better for the NPC. Illogical but true.

Say I'm on the second list now, and my NPC has a great katana from the second list. I can give the great axe from the second list, play with that. Decide I don't like it, try a great sword. Decide I don't like that, give great katana back. You can change weapons as much as you like - there's no limit, other than the fact that you don't get any gil refund for buying the equipment.

Your NPC starts with first-list sword and first-list shield (namely Xiphos and Lauan Shield). If you intend to stick with that, then you don't have to do anything when you get to the first list because your NPC already *has* that stuff. (Just like you don't need to do anything to change your NPC's attack style at 3 calls, if you want Shield - the NPC is *already* Shield, so you don't need to change anything.)

If you give your NPC a 2-hand weapon, and then give your NPC a 1-hand weapon ... they no longer have a shield (they lose it, when they get a 2-hand weapon, for obvious reasons). That's why you can give your NPC a shield in the first list, so they can get it back. And as for the second list, naturally if you can give your NPC a shield like any other hand-equippable item, you can give your NPC a better shield (Shell Shield if y'all are wondering) just like you can give your NPC a better 1-hand weapon.

This has always been an option, it's just that since the first dialogue for changing weapons was heavily leaning towards *weapons*, nobody thought about shields. Second dialogue mentions "weapon or shield" and people went "wha-huh?".
 
Hmmm, never tried giving more weapons from the second list or heard of anyone doing that until now.
 
Vil, where did you find this second list? Or any of these list for that matter?
 
http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48849

In the first post you can find a list of all the weapons. It omits the shields (because people didn't know about them at the time), but first-list shield is Lauan and second-list is Shell.

It's also based off early impressions, including people going "wtfaak the second list stuff is weaker don't use it", before people realized that even though second list stuff is worse for players, it's better for NPCs. I guess the NPCs don't use the actual *stats* on the items, but the game merely flags it as "first" or "second", and the "second" works better. So take the other stuff you read with a grain of salt, but at the very least you can find weapon lists there.

And you can change weapons as many times as you like, so long as you don't mind the fact that you get neither a gil refund nor the previous weapon back. Guess your NPC is an ass and just tosses it. So you'll be spending a few K on a new item whenever you want to change weapons. You can't, I think, give Luto any first-list stuff once you get access to the second list. (Which is fine, since as I said before the second-list stuff works better for the NPC than the first list.)
 
My NPC is lvl 39 currently, ive been going to it and to Luto after every exp session with it to see if/when the next weapon upgrade might happen. I am a bit dissapointed so far, in that there doesn't seem to be any weapon upgrade beyond the second upgrade, yet. I only know of a few others who have leveled thier npc's higher, like Skaw and Devifoxx. Probably are others, but those are the only two I know of.

Dunno if they have any new imput yet. But like Rones metioned, we may have to just wait for the next content update. :(
 
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