Official Ps3 Pricing Info!

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When i mentioned the Wii being inferior, i meant that in terms of hardware. Graphics is all up to the artists, and i know there will be games on the Wii that look spectacular.

For any console to put out 100% of what it's capable of doing, The system would crash. The PS3 allows more to be done without lagging out. Having more geometry dosn't really make a better game.

Sony's new controller seems to make the Wii a little less unique, Maybe it won't be as lightening fast when recieving motion feeds.




1. As a Machine, Sony rules. But if Sony has too many games that push the system hard, Nintendo will probably have more realeases. (This meaning the games taking more time and money to make)

2. For 3rd party developers there is more money in less time when making games for Nintendo's Wii (Which hurts 1.)

3. The Feild is larger and we'll see how much games are made with care on the PS3, I think the most passionate companies will put more time into making a great game that takes advantage of PS3's ability to handle dense scenes. It's already Obvious the games made my Nintendo themselves will be made with care.
 
Bajaratt said:
Am I the only one who realized that Elemmire would be the only one who's getting smitted according to this comic? It's so funny because it's true.
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yes cause obviously me saying each system has its strengths and weaknesses is an obvious blatant fanboy. You are getting beyond any sort of logic anymore.

Let's break this down for you.. Simple facts.

Playstation has (as of now) more third party developers than any other console out right now
Nintendo's Wii controller allows the player to feel more part of the game
Playstation 3's system hardware is superior to that of the Nintendo's Wii.
People complained about the Xbox, Xbox 360, and PS2's prices when they were announced yet still they sold very well
Sony has been making their systems more multi-task than purely gaming where as Nintendo has focused only on gaming (nothing bad about that just simple as that)

All of you have decided to just look at the negatives of the PS3 which.. all you can find pretty much.. is to be the price. You all think the price of it is rediculous and just completely ignore inflation, blu-ray player prices as of now, and how the PS3 compares to these things. A Blu-Ray player is much more than $600 from what I've found. Inflation would lead one to believe that game prices would have already increased beyond the $50-60 it has been for the last several years. And you are all saying that the games will be $70-80 or even more as if it's already a known fact. What's really.. and I do mean this, really amusing is that the people that are only focusing on the negatives of Sony's system (and they are the same people that have always only focused on the negatives) are those that should be dubbed nintendo fanboys and even admit to it. A fanboy is a stupid thing to be because (in my opinion) they tend to be people that think so highly of one system (or hobby) they won't even acknowledge ANY positives of another system or even recognize where their system fails compared to the others. What makes it even more amusing is that I know for a fact most of you nintendo fanboys own and enjoy (because you've said so in the LS) a Playstation 2. I'm fairly sure most of you will buy a PS3 eventually (maybe even some right on release). I'll continue to be amused by those that harp so much on sony and yet still buy their systems and use them. You can go on with your negative campaign about sony (as well as microsoft obviously) and disregard any positive things about it just because of your blatant faboyism. Such a stupid thing. I, on the other hand, will go have fun with whatever system offers the most fun (and the most to choose from) at first and perhaps, at one point, enjoy the benefits each system has.
 
Elemmire said:
yes cause obviously me saying each system has its strengths and weaknesses is an obvious blatant fanboy. You are getting beyond any sort of logic anymore.

Let's break this down for you.. Simple facts.

Playstation has (as of now) more third party developers than any other console out right now
Nintendo's Wii controller allows the player to feel more part of the game
Playstation 3's system hardware is superior to that of the Nintendo's Wii.
People complained about the Xbox, Xbox 360, and PS2's prices when they were announced yet still they sold very well
Sony has been making their systems more multi-task than purely gaming where as Nintendo has focused only on gaming (nothing bad about that just simple as that)

All of you have decided to just look at the negatives of the PS3 which.. all you can find pretty much.. is to be the price. You all think the price of it is rediculous and just completely ignore inflation, blu-ray player prices as of now, and how the PS3 compares to these things. A Blu-Ray player is much more than $600 from what I've found. Inflation would lead one to believe that game prices would have already increased beyond the $50-60 it has been for the last several years. And you are all saying that the games will be $70-80 or even more as if it's already a known fact. What's really.. and I do mean this, really amusing is that the people that are only focusing on the negatives of Sony's system (and they are the same people that have always only focused on the negatives) are those that should be dubbed nintendo fanboys and even admit to it. A fanboy is a stupid thing to be because (in my opinion) they tend to be people that think so highly of one system (or hobby) they won't even acknowledge ANY positives of another system or even recognize where their system fails compared to the others. What makes it even more amusing is that I know for a fact most of you nintendo fanboys own and enjoy (because you've said so in the LS) a Playstation 2. I'm fairly sure most of you will buy a PS3 eventually (maybe even some right on release). I'll continue to be amused by those that harp so much on sony and yet still buy their systems and use them. You can go on with your negative campaign about sony (as well as microsoft obviously) and disregard any positive things about it just because of your blatant faboyism. Such a stupid thing. I, on the other hand, will go have fun with whatever system offers the most fun (and the most to choose from) at first and perhaps, at one point, enjoy the benefits each system has.
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Yes, because I'm the one who refers to people as fanboys like it's some kind of racial slur; I'm the one who's ignoring everything that anyone else says that shows that sony is starting to decline at the "top dog" of the console market; that's right. Right here in this quote you're calling us fanboys and acting like we're lepers because we enjoy nintendo systems.

The thing is, that the ONLY people who are discriminating against a console are the ones who discriminate against Nintendo. The Nintendo fans are practically forced to adopt a "nintedo > all" position because idiots like you can't seem to understand that maybe we like multiple consoles for different reasons. I own a PS2 and a Game Cube, but the only thing you see is "I own a Game Cube" which to you means I'm a Nintendo fanboy and therefore I must be retarded. Historically through the posts on this forum, the Nintendo "fanboys" have been by far the most tolerant of other consoles and their fans. We know people like Xbox and PS2, hell most of us have one of them as well, but there's NOTHING WRONG with owning a Nintendo system.

I like having a console with good games that I can play in front of my young cousins, but still have fun playing; hell they even play with me some times. I like Nintendo, I like Sony, I don't really care about Microsoft, but that's because I don't like their games(or lack of them) or I buy their games on PC. I've played all 3 consoles, I was planning on getting a PS3 and a Wii until this pricing info came out, now it's looking like I'm just getting a Wii because I don't have 800+ dollars laying around to spend on a video game console. If the price drops down to a more reasonable level, I'll buy it but for now I can't afford to spend that much money to play video games. I'm actually making an informed decision; not just bashing a console because the company decided to go for a different marketing strategy than throw more power at the user.

You're ignoring what other people have said to constantly preach that Sony > all, with nothing to back it up but old news. We all know Sony was top dog in the previous console generation, but it's not looking like Sony will do well for the next; we could be wrong but that'll only be known when all of the consoles are released. Just because you recently started saying "Nintendo has 1 good point about their new console" doesn't mean that you're not still discriminating against the fans of the company and it's console. Yeah Sony had the largest library of games, but there is no evidence whatsoever that the library won't move to 360 or Wii because of console sales and develepment prices.

Sony's PS3 is very impressive, the graphics are beautiful, but it's way too much fucking money. So I and more than likely hundreds of thousands of people like me will not be buying one at launch or until they drop the price to a more reasonable level. When the game developers see the actual sales figures, that and the higher cost/time of making the games they will likely switch over to designing games for the Xbox or the Wii; they might not but it's likely they will. Yes people will still buy the PS3, but not nearly as many as Sony is counting on, and the sole reason is the price. If you can't see that, then you're even worse than a brick wall; so shut the hell up already, fanboy.
 
I never once said sony was greater than all at all. You are putting words in my mouth. I stated Sony has superior hardware on the PS3 compared to Nintendo and the closest you could come to me saying Sony > all is me saying I prefer sony's playstation to the other systems because of the large gaming library with games I enjoy. I don't, in anyway, think sony itself is better than nintendo. It's you that are coming around and stating every little fault of sony and neglecting any fault of Nintendo or any positive thing about sony's system. And now you are just taking cheap shots (well not now.. you've been doing that) because you have no arguement against the fact you are pointing out only negatives which only apear to be the price which not a single one of you has come to even realize is decent compared to what a blu-ray player would be nor do you even care to acknowledge that sony's making their systems more than just a gaming console which would tend to drive the prices up a bit. You might not like the price but that doesn't change the fact that it is still a good price for what it offers compared to other blu-ray players.
 
Elemmire said:
I never once said sony was greater than all at all. You are putting words in my mouth. I stated Sony has superior hardware on the PS3 compared to Nintendo and the closest you could come to me saying Sony > all is me saying I prefer sony's playstation to the other systems because of the large gaming library with games I enjoy. I don't, in anyway, think sony itself is better than nintendo. It's you that are coming around and stating every little fault of sony and neglecting any fault of Nintendo or any positive thing about sony's system. And now you are just taking cheap shots (well not now.. you've been doing that) because you have no arguement against the fact you are pointing out only negatives which only apear to be the price which not a single one of you has come to even realize is decent compared to what a blu-ray player would be nor do you even care to acknowledge that sony's making their systems more than just a gaming console which would tend to drive the prices up a bit. You might not like the price but that doesn't change the fact that it is still a good price for what it offers compared to other blu-ray players.
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I'm sorry, did you just join the conversation? The first half of this is a complete backtrack of your whole position since the start of this thread. Maybe it's that people are treating you like the fanboy that you villify others for being, I don't know.

I'm pointing out the negatives, because EVERYONE ALREADY KNOWS ALL THE POSITIVES. We all know it's a beautiful and powerful machine, we all know it'll play Blu-ray DVD's for movies, you're continuing to harp on crap that everyone already knows and no one cares about. The fact that stand-alone blu-ray DVD players are more than $600 is completely irrelevant, it's a brand new technology, so obviously it'll be expensive. The price is fucking horrible since the ONLY use for the blu-ray technology so far is to play PS3 games. If DVD manufacturing companies all shifted to the blu-ray at the same time then the PS3 would be a good deal, but there is no reason to need a blu-ray player yet.

"PS3 is more than a gaming console" yeah, it plays DVD's, but then so does my PS2 and there's been no real announcements about movies being made in blu-ray format so at this point PS3 is only a gaming console. I remember hearing that several companies were no longer going to release movies in the UMD format for the PSP, because of lack of sales in that format and the cost of creating the discs; I can easily see the same thing happening to the blu-ray discs as well.

As for the "fauls of the Nintendo system," it's less powerful than the 360/PS3, which I don't fucking care about; you constantly tirade about the gaming library, except that there's scores of companies who are working on games for it, so the library will be solid. I might lose the controller in the depths of my couch, but that's ok I'll just fish it out again.

You're the one without any arguments, you're just a broken record going on about "PS3 is a good deal" and "PS3 is better than Nintendo."
 
Bajaratt said:
Sony's PS3 is very impressive, the graphics are beautiful, but it's way too much fucking money. So I and more than likely hundreds of thousands of people like me will not be buying one at launch or until they drop the price to a more reasonable level.
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Same here. I think the most I'm willing to pay is 400, and maybe 500. I can wait. I'll have FFXI, running, and eventually the wii to pass the time. I'll be constructive until then and beat/rebeat some games on cube and ps2.
 
And you can't see you've been a broken record too baja? EVERYONE KNOWS THE GOD DAMN PRICE BY NOW! Everyone knows it's expensive compared to the other systems. So I guess everyone knows the negatives (or atleast the only one you've been pointing out)! And yet.. that's all you've been bitching about for the last 8 pages. The only thing you've been saying is that the price is too high. You haven't said anything different really for the entire fucking thread. You've been saying over and over and I've only said the same thing to hopefully get you to realize that there are positives cause you sure as hell weren't showing that you realized any positives about it at all. Again, everyone knows the damn price by now. Everyone knows that negative. And yet, all you have been complaining about is that the system is too expensive (even though it still is a deal considering it could be higher). So.. care to point any other negative (an actual negative of the system not just the complaint about sony stealing nintendo's motion sensor thing, which yes, I'll agree, was very stupid of sony) cause you haven't said anything else other than the price. Oh, and there is a 500 unit, Jagster
 
Elemmire said:
And you can't see you've been a broken record too baja? EVERYONE KNOWS THE GOD DAMN PRICE BY NOW! Everyone knows it's expensive compared to the other systems. So I guess everyone knows the negatives (or atleast the only one you've been pointing out)! And yet.. that's all you've been bitching about for the last 8 pages. The only thing you've been saying is that the price is too high. You haven't said anything different really for the entire fucking thread. You've been saying over and over and I've only said the same thing to hopefully get you to realize that there are positives cause you sure as hell weren't showing that you realized any positives about it at all. Again, everyone knows the damn price by now. Everyone knows that negative. And yet, all you have been complaining about is that the system is too expensive (even though it still is a deal considering it could be higher). So.. care to point any other negative (an actual negative of the system not just the complaint about sony stealing nintendo's motion sensor thing, which yes, I'll agree, was very stupid of sony) cause you haven't said anything else other than the price. Oh, and there is a 500 unit, Jagster
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I haven't been bitching about the price. I said the price is too high, so I'm going to wait, and then left it alone. I've been saying it repeatidly because it takes 10-20 times for anything to sink in for you apparently. Why should I have to find more reasons to not get the console, they won't get my money anyways. It's not like I'm going to go, well there's no other reason to not buy the console, fuck it I'll shell out all that money anyway.

Also, Tagrineth and Skaw were talking about the price far more than I was; you're mixing their posts with mine. They're the ones who explained exactly why the price is a bad thing, but you're blaming me for anyone speaking out against the PS3. Talk to the people who actually make the arguments, don't just throw all of your "responses" at me.

What I have been complaining about is your hypocritical attitude towards me. You keep going on about how I'm railing your precious Sony by only focusing on price(when I'm not) and then insult me by calling me a fanboy in the same breath. You continue to say that Nintendo is inferior, not just in terms of hardware where it's a fact but just in general where it's your opinion. The only time that I've been vehement towards anyone has been you after you've been spouting off that we're all fanboys for wanting a Wii. You ignore the year's worth of posting history where I have been constantly saying I'll buy a Revolution(Wii now) and a PS3, because I like the games on both. Now, since I can't afford to buy both, let alone that my parents would likely kill me for spending over $1,000 on video game consoles, I'm going with the cheaper option but that suddenly makes me a fanboy instead of practical.

Take a step back and look at the posts through this thread. I started by posting pictures/webcomics that poke fun at the PS3 and Sony's strategy and you took it as attacks. Then, you start spouting off fanboy in retaliation because you can't take a joke.
 
all my posts weren't directed soly at you, Baja. Some started commenting about you but then I just went into general points against the others (as well as you) complaining about the price. You've done nothing ever but harp on sony and praise nintendo. All I've ever seen you do is harp on sony when anything sony related comes up. And I don't consider Nintendo games inferior I just find them not to my liking for the most part. Most of the nintendo games (1st party) I find very repetative so I don't enjoy those much but I don't think they are inferior to everything. I don't think you're a fanboy just for wanting Wii, hell, I want a Wii. I think you're a fanboy for harping on sony at almsot any chance you get while praising Nintendo as gods (atleast it seems that way a lot). You do take a shot at Sony whenever anything about them comes up. It's getting rediculous (and you aren't the only one though).
 
Again, Price is a big issue when youre competitors are marketing thier product at 2/3s and less than half of yours. Like I said previously, VP of Microsoft pretty much spelled it out clearly. "Why buy a Playstation 3, when you can buy an Xbox 360 and a Nintendo Wii for the same price." This was at Microsoft's own XBox press conference, and it's a very valid point. 2 consoles for the price of one, a lot more title available to you as well. How the hell is that not a major bad thing? IMO, it's the biggest problem with the Playstation 3, assuming theres no dreaded first production line problem like there always is with Sony. Games look pretty, yes. But they're the same titles and the same gameplay as before. You say Nintendo's first party titles are repetitive(despite Metroid Prime being an entirely different gameplay scenario than Metroid,) yet you continue to play Final Fantasy(Unchanged since the 80s,) Metal Gear, Grand Theft Auto, etc.

Granted, the games playing the same isn't a problem. If the formula works, don't break it. A lot of people were skeptical about Metroid Prime because it was a drastic change, a very big gamble. But saying that others titles are repetitive, when the very games you too are playing are the same exact game, just with redone graphics and rewritten story, is pretty ignorant.

Yeah, Mario is all running, jumping, and throwing turtle shells. But Final Fantasy is all running around from town to town and rummaging through battle menus. Graphics are just cosmetic. They usually do not influence gameplay whatsoever. Final Fantasy may use 3D Models now, but it makes no use of the Z-Axis at all. That's not influencing gameplay. FYI, Z-Axis is up and down in the third dimention. Fixed position ladders do not count.
 
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Elemmire said:
all my posts weren't directed soly at you, Baja. Some started commenting about you but then I just went into general points against the others (as well as you) complaining about the price. You've done nothing ever but harp on sony and praise nintendo. All I've ever seen you do is harp on sony when anything sony related comes up. And I don't consider Nintendo games inferior I just find them not to my liking for the most part. Most of the nintendo games (1st party) I find very repetative so I don't enjoy those much but I don't think they are inferior to everything. I don't think you're a fanboy just for wanting Wii, hell, I want a Wii. I think you're a fanboy for harping on sony at almsot any chance you get while praising Nintendo as gods (atleast it seems that way a lot). You do take a shot at Sony whenever anything about them comes up. It's getting rediculous (and you aren't the only one though).
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You're ignoring the last year's worth of post history regarding this matter, again. My only problems with sony have been them blatantly ripping off nintendo's selling point and the fact that their console is far too expensive. Besides that I haven't said anything about them, I've posted a few pictures/comics about the PS3 and Sony's strategy, but you're obviously taking those as attacks when they're meant as the jokes they truely are. No one else has a problem with them, most laugh at them as they're meant to. Learn the difference between a joke and a direct insult, please.

I've said it for a year, but since you don't seem to understand that I'll say it again except I'll be even clearer this time. I want a Sony PS3 as well as a Wii. I can't afford both, so I'm buying the Wii because it's cheaper. When the price comes down on the PS3, I'm going to get that too but until then I'm going to just have a Wii and a PS2 and I'll be fine.
 
wow this thread is huge and I don't want to read it all but I'm pretty sure the 2 sides are:

1. Ps3 is going to be the best, you get what you pay for

and

2. $600 is too much for a machine that plays just like the previous 2.


Personaly I will not pay more than 300 for a home console, I did not get a 360 because of its price. The Wii will be cheaper, Nintendo knows that its price point will get it into homes.

My conclusion is that, yes the PS3 will sell out, but it will barely do it, just like the 360. I would also be unsurprised if it didn't sell out outside of japan.
 
I was going to write a big response to this but instead of starting more of a flamewar, if you don't like the price of the PS3 then don't buy it. There are plenty of people that are willing to pay for the $500-600. It's like when people buy cars/tv/etc, why spend alot on one when you can buy 5 similar items that are cheaper? Because they can, and it makes them happy. Price isn't a problem for the majority of people, I mean why would people spend thousands on E-Bay for a 360 :crazy:
 
Bri-N said:
I was going to write a big response to this but instead of starting more of a flamewar, if you don't like the price of the PS3 then don't buy it. There are plenty of people that are willing to pay for the $500-600. It's like when people buy cars/tv/etc, why spend alot on one when you can buy 5 similar items that are cheaper? Because they can, and it makes them happy. Price isn't a problem for the majority of people, I mean why would people spend thousands on E-Bay for a 360 :crazy:
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The same reason why i camped out for my 360. To win any E-peen fight.
 
Blaine said:
The same reason why i camped out for my 360. To win any E-peen fight.
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i shall challenge your title once my PS3 is securely in my possesion.

the 360 sold out, and thats without promises of awsome games. PS3 already has FFXIII lined up (looking awsome) and MGS4 (more awsome)
The only thing 360 had close to that was "LOLHALO3"
 
I just can't help but think of Neo.Geo every time I look at PS3.

For reference: Neo.Geo was a highly prized console, being one of the most powerful 2D-focused systems of all time, and featuring flawless arcade conversions for the first time ever, especially boasting a complete library of SNK arcade games.

You bet people were stoked about being able to play the Metal Slug and King of Fighters series on set top systems, with a true arcade experience. The hardware even shipped with two Arcade-style joystick controllers.

The problem was... the Neo.Geo home system debuted at $649. It became the "Rich Elite's system" - sure, the SNES/Genesis were jealous, but Neo.Geo's sick sticker price destroyed its chance of really taking hold.

Side note - Neo.Geo also had a big issue wherein individual games cost upwards of $200, and sometimes even more. Talk about lightening your wallet... admittedly, this probably didn't exactly help the Neo.Geo's standing, but the tale still sets something of a precedent.

Though, again, admittedly, Sonly already broke several precedents when the argumentative little bitch known as PS2 wound up having the largest game library of its generation - something Jaguar and Saturn certainly couldn't attempt.


Marajade said:
The only thing 360 had close to that was "LOLHALO3"
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Don't forget lolemptyshellcalledrare...
 
Marajade said:
i shall challenge your title once my PS3 is securely in my possesion.

the 360 sold out, and thats without promises of awsome games. PS3 already has FFXIII lined up (looking awsome) and MGS4 (more awsome)
The only thing 360 had close to that was "LOLHALO3"
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360 didnt even say they had halo 3 and it sold out, Bungie was working on a secret project dubbed title "Pimps at sea" and no information was released or leaked about its story ever.
Halo3 wasnt announced till this years E3 and wont be around till 2007.

So far only the games ive played for 360 have made it worth it, With my faves being DOA4,Call of duty, Fight night 3, Elderscrolls oblivion(which doesnt play as well on PC due to its controls being meant for console), and made from ex members of square, the fuckin awesome Blue Dragon!
as of now only look forward to one game, FF13 for ps3. nothing else has interested me yet to throw away that much money,
I wasnt even interested in wii till i saw the redblade demo and heard its going to be affordable. I would rather own Wii and 360 than a single ps3 any day.
i think ill just wait for price to drop in the future then maybe it will be more plausable.
 
Bri-N said:
I was going to write a big response to this but instead of starting more of a flamewar, if you don't like the price of the PS3 then don't buy it. There are plenty of people that are willing to pay for the $500-600. It's like when people buy cars/tv/etc, why spend alot on one when you can buy 5 similar items that are cheaper? Because they can, and it makes them happy. Price isn't a problem for the majority of people, I mean why would people spend thousands on E-Bay for a 360 :crazy:
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You are highly mistaken if you think the majority is willing to piss away 500-600 dollars.

Only if they truly feel there money is well spent will the majority use it.
 
Tbh i would (and will) pay $250 for SSB brawl.

I wouldn't (and won't) pay $800-$1100 for FFXIII.

Besides the Wii probably has the biggest library.

Games from Mega drive, NES, SNES, N64, Saturn?, Dreamcast?, GC and Wii.

Not sure about the sega consoles...i know they said there would be sega games you can download as well but i have yet to hear any specifics.

Not to mention the possibility of Gameboy, Gameboy colour, pocket gameboy, being possible candidates as well.

Thats a pretty huge library right there.

And you can argue that they are old and the graphics are rubbish but how many people own a copy of any FF1-6?
 
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