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[Firestreak]

I unblocked cause I was curious what bullshit about Fafnir you were saying.. tho you will be blocked again.

wrong again..Prophecy, Drkstar, Algarius, and PerfectAngel had Fafnir.. then wiped.. then we took it. Then a spike flail happened cause a former BLM had hate (note: he left on his own he didn't get kicked like Prophecy kicked DD for making one mistake even though DD wasn't really there it was his brother cause Prophecy FORCED him to go, according to DD.. please see earlier pages for DD's comment on it) and was too far back. 9 of us or so were killed off. People reraised and we still had claim and begin trying to recover. PLDs went down, I was casting Sleep II On it at the time as were others... and suddenly it goes unclaimed and Prophecy provoked it. That's stealing, jackass. Then when you guys wiped again to it Speakerboxx or one of your members ran Fafnir over to the NH group which was waiting to try again, thus, causing us to be killed off without a chance to defend ourselves. Good job, jackasses!

This is blatently a lie. You're switching days around.

One day: Perfectangel Prophecy Algarius, several others are holding Fafnir with sleep as we gather. NH steals as we are in the process of wiping. However we had people alive. I districtly remember Perfectangel's angry screams that she was still alive when it was taken over LS chat. When I arrived within a minute of it happening, she was still alive and quite unrezaffected.

Then NH tries to fight it for a while. You guys are in the process of wiping, you had a few members up but you were wiping, just as we were when you stole. Fair's fair, we take back.

Then Odon tries to make it spile flail.

Cause of all that wasted time of us stalling and you wiping, fafnir's hour timer hits 0 and we are obliterated with Fafnir at 20%ish.

Fafnir runs at Odon, kills him and kills the rest of NH. We are of coursed blamed for MPK.

Kaizen takes Fafnir.

Now... a completely DIFFERENT DAY.

We claim Fafnir. We are fighting fafnir. Our member Darkdominion(played by brother), casts Sleepga 2 accidentally. Chain reaction, we wipe.

NH takes Fafnir.

NH wipes.

Kaizen kills Fafnir.



What you just did, was you combined 2 completely different days, and you combined them to make us look as bad as possible.

Sure... we got a bad reputation among NH members?

MAYBE BECAUSE YOU ARE A LIAR???

 

[Bajaratt]

i like how u talk about DD like he didnt know what he was doing. anyways getting back on subject yet again, yall never "tried to recover" u just continued to wipe. raising and provoking and dying again does really work to well. and it fafnir goes unclaimed, ur not doing a very good job on trying to sleep it

We were trying to sleep it, but it's kind of hard when your macro spamming takes our claim.

 

[Elemmire]

I'm not talking about any specific event, I just don't want all this hatred to continue between the 2 LSs.

as long as there people like elemmire who like to run their mouth, it wont stop

ya.. cause you aren't like that.. you have yet to shut up as well

i like how u talk about DD like he didnt know what he was doing. anyways getting back on subject yet again, yall never "tried to recover" u just continued to wipe. raising and provoking and dying again does really work to well. and it fafnir goes unclaimed, ur not doing a very good job on trying to sleep it

and no.. we were recovering fine.. even if we weren't going to recover you could have waited for a complete wipe. Or let the person in charge of the HNM hunting event (I.E. Maseki) say it's ok to take it cause he officially says it's a wipe.. however he did not.. and you guys took it without permission with NH members still up and active.. that's called stealing.. GG Dumbass!

 

[cohibuu]

I'm not talking about any specific event, I just don't want all this hatred to continue between the 2 LSs.

as long as there people like elemmire who like to run their mouth, it wont stop

ya.. cause you aren't like that.. you have yet to shut up as well

yes im still here fixing your lies

 

[Bajaratt]

Actually Fire, I was there for both incidents, but with the first one, we specifically waited until everyone down there was dead. I did not see PerfectAngel alive around fafnir, I never saw her until after you guys claimed it off of us. Everyone that was fighting fafnir(i.e. around him and down in the room) was dead, and then claim was lost, so we claimed. When you took the claim back, half of our alliance was still alive and we were all right next to fafnir.

The other time, we just weren't ready when you guys wiped.

Edit: Acute wasn't trying to combine the two incidents into one to make OH look bad. One of our blm's pulled hate and was in a bad position, causing the spike flail. Acute was just pointing out that the former-LS member left after that incident of his own accord.

 

[Elemmire]

I unblocked cause I was curious what bullshit about Fafnir you were saying.. tho you will be blocked again.

wrong again..Prophecy, Drkstar, Algarius, and PerfectAngel had Fafnir.. then wiped.. then we took it. Then a spike flail happened cause a former BLM had hate (note: he left on his own he didn't get kicked like Prophecy kicked DD for making one mistake even though DD wasn't really there it was his brother cause Prophecy FORCED him to go, according to DD.. please see earlier pages for DD's comment on it) and was too far back. 9 of us or so were killed off. People reraised and we still had claim and begin trying to recover. PLDs went down, I was casting Sleep II On it at the time as were others... and suddenly it goes unclaimed and Prophecy provoked it. That's stealing, jackass. Then when you guys wiped again to it Speakerboxx or one of your members ran Fafnir over to the NH group which was waiting to try again, thus, causing us to be killed off without a chance to defend ourselves. Good job, jackasses!

This is blatently a lie. You're switching days around.

One day: Perfectangel Prophecy Algarius, several others are holding Fafnir with sleep as we gather. NH steals as we are in the process of wiping. However we had people alive. I districtly remember Perfectangel's angry screams that she was still alive when it was taken over LS chat. When I arrived within a minute of it happening, she was still alive and quite unrezaffected.

Then NH tries to fight it for a while. You guys are in the process of wiping, you had a few members up but you were wiping, just as we were when you stole. Fair's fair, we take back.

Then Odon tries to make it spile flail.
%s possible.

Sure... we got a bad reputation among NH members?

MAYBE BECAUSE YOU ARE A LIAR???

It was the day of the maintanence. People were slowly getting on. OH had only 4 members on and they took it and then more logged on and joined them. However you guys died and went down. Then NH started to fight it and yes.. all of OH was down before we took it. And the rest is as I said it. Get the people who witnessed it to come. There were a few Kaizen members there I believe. Kurei and his group was there. When was this other day though? the only other day that we took it was when DD's brother playing as DD sleepga-ed the flies and you guys started to wipe. That was they day you weren't all completely dead and that was after you stole from us so we didn't give a shit about you having people up or not. And I don't spread lies at all.. think I talk to Kaizen or Valkrys a lot? nope.. and from what I can tell a lot of them hate OH (or atleast the leaders). There are about two people I talk to in Kaizen on a regular basis and only one in Valkrys. Neither of which really speaks up much in their respective LS. I don't spread lies at all.. I say what happens and then I am called a liar for telling the truth as even 18+ other people saw. Let's get others that were there that day at Fafnir right after the maintanence.. Crosis is in Kaizen now but I'm sure he can say what happened too. Perhaps Quieren? Sure he's in NH but he won't lie. Ya.. OH will steal.. it's happened before.. I'm sure it'll happen again.

 

[Firestreak]

We were trying to sleep it, but it's kind of hard when your macro spamming takes our claim.

Monsters in FF have a tendancy to raise their sleep resistance. When you keep sleeping them, they continue to sleep for less and less time and eventually it is impossible to sleep them. It was for this reason that we were wiping(and no I won't debate that we weren't gonna wipe, but let's be technical we had alive members). However it was also for this reason that just as we were going to die if you stole or not, that you were going to die. When you go from 18 alive members to 5 and the monster is running around(if you not Fafnir and what he will automatically do, you know that once it's running around it's already over) chasing mages and resisting your sleep, it's over.
You guys stole it from us under the obvious assumption the fight was over and we returned the favor. Stop ignoring the fact that PERFECTANGEL WAS ALIVE. That makes whatever you want to say about 5 people recovering Fafnir pointless, I could just as easily say that PA was about to get off a Sleep 2 that somehow lasts 6 minutes and allows our entire alliance to be up and ready again.
If you want to be given the benefit of a full wipe, give others the benefit of a full wipe. It's pretty damn obvious.

And the funny thing is...

You guys stole first.

And we never flamed you over it.

 

[Skaw]

It's okay Fire. Elemmire called MPK on Reality once, cause he shadowbind Ulli for the claim. and she ran right by him. What brains in that girls head.

 

[Elemmire]

It's okay Fire. Elemmire called MPK on Reality once, cause he shadowbind Ulli for the claim. and she ran right by him. What brains in that girls head.

that was me joking with Reality, Skaw. I even said j/k in /say when I was talking to him. I didn't really mind the death at all.

 

[Kat]

Good grief y'all, just stop it!!!! This is just gettin' too outa control. Ele, I asked you to please stop on page 1 of this thread. I'm sorry, but what I'm seeing here is you, Ele, cutting down OH leaders repeatedly, and then OH members defending them. And it just keeps goin' on, and on, and on. Enough is enough.

Damnnnnn ...

PS. I want to make it clear, right here in this thread, that it was I and no one else from NH trying to recruit OH members into the NH shell. I did it for no other reason but to have my very good friends who I've been with for the last 8 months still with me. Maseki was doin' ME a favor by letting them join if they so chose. It wasn't that he needed these members, he was doin' it cuz he and I are friends.

 

[Skaw]

that was me joking with Reality, Skaw. I even said j/k in /say when I was talking to him. I didn't really mind the death at all.

Oh funny. I didn't see the /say. No one else from Valkyrs did either..

Regardless, you're still a moron for running by a shadowbound mob.

 

[Bajaratt]

We were trying to sleep it, but it's kind of hard when your macro spamming takes our claim.

Monsters in FF have a tendancy to raise their sleep resistance. When you keep sleeping them, they continue to sleep for less and less time and eventually it is impossible to sleep them. It was for this reason that we were wiping(and no I won't debate that we weren't gonna wipe, but let's be technical we had alive members). However it was also for this reason that just as we were going to die if you stole or not, that you were going to die. When you go from 18 alive members to 5 and the monster is running around(if you not Fafnir and what he will automatically do, you know that once it's running around it's already over) chasing mages and resisting your sleep, it's over.
You guys stole it from us under the obvious assumption the fight was over and we returned the favor. Stop ignoring the fact that PERFECTANGEL WAS ALIVE. That makes whatever you want to say about 5 people recovering Fafnir pointless, I could just as easily say that PA was about to get off a Sleep 2 that somehow lasts 6 minutes and allows our entire alliance to be up and ready again.
If you want to be given the benefit of a full wipe, give others the benefit of a full wipe. It's pretty damn obvious.

And the funny thing is...

You guys stole first.

And we never flamed you over it.

If PA was alive, where was she? She wasn't down in the room with them, because there was no one alive when we claimed. The only other option is that she was not part of the fight, since it'd be suicide to be anywhere but right in his face.

We had 9 members still alive, 7 of them with sleep, and 5 of them with sleep 2. We had only slept it once, so it's resistance shouldn't have been that high. It's possible that fafnir still had some resistance from when you guys were fighting, but we never really had much chance to sleep it before you reclaimed.

We were told to not bring this to the flameboards, so we didn't. The incidents were over a month ago, so they're no longer all that relevent. I'd rather both sides just dropped it.

 

[Elemmire]

We were trying to sleep it, but it's kind of hard when your macro spamming takes our claim.

Monsters in FF have a tendancy to raise their sleep resistance. When you keep sleeping them, they continue to sleep for less and less time and eventually it is impossible to sleep them. It was for this reason that we were wiping(and no I won't debate that we weren't gonna wipe, but let's be technical we had alive members). However it was also for this reason that just as we were going to die if you stole or not, that you were going to die. When you go from 18 alive members to 5 and the monster is running around(if you not Fafnir and what he will automatically do, you know that once it's running around it's already over) chasing mages and resisting your sleep, it's over.
You guys stole it from us under the obvious assumption the fight was over and we returned the favor. Stop ignoring the fact that PERFECTANGEL WAS ALIVE. That makes whatever you want to say about 5 people recovering Fafnir pointless, I could just as easily say that PA was about to get off a Sleep 2 that somehow lasts 6 minutes and allows our entire alliance to be up and ready again.
If you want to be given the benefit of a full wipe, give others the benefit of a full wipe. It's pretty damn obvious.

And the funny thing is...

You guys stole first.

And we never flamed you over it.

*sighs* no.. you're getting things mixed up again.. PA was most certainly dead. Everyone was dead. We let Fafnir go unclaimed and it even stopped moving for a good 5 seconds before we took it. However, when you took from us, we had about half our alliance up. Half of our alliance could have held off Fafnir long enough to recover. But, y bring up more argueing) than perhaps you were wrong about that Fafnir and got it mixed up? Possible.. anyways.. for the sake of Kat (I'm sorry.. I really did miss your first post on the first page) I will be going now. You can argue with me all you want.. but as far as I can see... I'm atleast right about a lot of things I've said. Perhaps not all (most likely not all) but atleast quite a bit.

 

[cohibuu]

Good grief y'all, just stop it!!!! This is just gettin' too outa control. Ele, I asked you to please stop on page 1 of this thread. I'm sorry, but what I'm seeing here is you, Ele, cutting down OH leaders repeatedly, and then OH members defending them. And it just keeps goin' on, and on, and on. Enough is enough.

atleast 1 nh member has a brain, and i lold at what skaw said

 

[Elemmire]

Good grief y'all, just stop it!!!! This is just gettin' too outa control. Ele, I asked you to please stop on page 1 of this thread. I'm sorry, but what I'm seeing here is you, Ele, cutting down OH leaders repeatedly, and then OH members defending them. And it just keeps goin' on, and on, and on. Enough is enough.

atleast 1 nh member has a brain

and this comment isn't supposed to make me defend our LS? Cohibu.. you are an ass.. you were told this many times by more than just me.

Elemmire wrote:
that was me joking with Reality, Skaw. I even said j/k in /say when I was talking to him. I didn't really mind the death at all.


Oh funny. I didn't see the /say. No one else from Valkyrs did either..

Regardless, you're still a moron for running by a shadowbound mob.

ya.. cause he shadowbinded it RIGHT as I ran passed Ulli. I mean exactly down to the second pretty much. Right as I got close enough for Ulli to hit me, Reality shadowbinded it. I complained jokingly.. Vill appologized to me for what happened and I even told Vill "Hehe.. no big deal. I just like to poke fun at Reality" Anyways.. I'm out.

 

[Strid]

Who the gives a flyin' shit don't you people have better things to worry about? Seriously? :shock: If not, I need a few assitance here in the real life department. Accepting applications by PM and no Blackmagik I'm not looking for S&M toys or men to have babies with so don't reply :twisted:

 

[Skaw]

ya.. cause he shadowbinded it RIGHT as I ran passed Ulli. I mean exactly down to the second pretty much. Right as I got close enough for Ulli to hit me, Reality shadowbinded it. I complained jokingly.. Vill appologized to me for what happened and I even told Vill "Hehe.. no big deal. I just like to poke fun at Reality" Anyways.. I'm out.

Maybe you need glasses. Ulli was bound way before you ran by it. Thats why I, and everyone else was standing still... cause he was parked right at the door.

Defend yourself all you want. You ran right infront of me after being way back behind me, and next to Ulli. I saw you do something stupid.

 

[Firestreak]

If PA was alive, where was she? She wasn't down in the room with them, because there was no one alive when we claimed. The only other option is that she was not part of the fight, since it'd be suicide to be anywhere but right in his face.

We had 9 members still alive, 7 of them with sleep, and 5 of them with sleep 2. We had only slept it once, so it's resistance shouldn't have been that high. It's possible that fafnir still had some resistance from when you guys were fighting, but we never really had much chance to sleep it before you reclaimed.

We were told to not bring this to the flameboards, so we didn't. The incidents were over a month ago, so they're no longer all that relevent. I'd rather both sides just dropped it.

As for the first question, I'll let PA answer that herself, she is looking for screenshots now.

As for the rest, I'm going to explain something to you. This is not to be egocentric or arrogant, but I simply know a lot about monsters and NMs because I've been around longer than you. I am going to explain something to you, and though this information will aid you in future NM fights, I doubt you'll thank me for it.

As for the sleep resistance, it does not simply reset because of change claim. We had It for several minutes. You guys had it for perhaps 10-20 minutes. Then within 30 minutes of us regaining it, it goes psycho. It kills both our LS and your LS. At which point Kaizen is alone with Fafnir. They simply wait for it to regen health to full. Until it regains to full health, it doesn't matter that it's changed claims. All of our sleeps, all of your sleeps, they simply add up to the resistance. That's why your sleeps were failing and you were uncontrollably wiping. It doesn't matter how many sleepers you had left, you guys were finished. Why? Because you didn't let it regen full.

Notice something...

We were stalling. We never caused signifigant damage to Fafnir. Perhaps a few whacks of the earth staff. If we had fully wiped, it would have reset almost instantly. But we were not wiped yet, hence the fraction of damage didn't regen and our sleep resistance didn't reset.

Pay attention carefully how the events unfolded. You guys didn't wait for a full wipe because you were in competition with Kaizen for claim after our wipe.

Just as we didn't wait for full wipe for the same reason.

When we wiped, thanks to Odon, you guys wiped too. Kaizen had no competition, they simply waited and let the mob regen HP then fought it as new.

That is why the both of us wiped, the difference is you guys didn't even know what was going on. Why did you guys wipe? Spike flail. Maybe you should watch other LS and see what they do, where they stand, how they fight and what not to do before just running headfirst into HNM and accusing MPK everywhere when you don't even understand what's going on?

 

[cohibuu]

Good grief y'all, just stop it!!!! This is just gettin' too outa control. Ele, I asked you to please stop on page 1 of this thread. I'm sorry, but what I'm seeing here is you, Ele, cutting down OH leaders repeatedly, and then OH members defending them. And it just keeps goin' on, and on, and on. Enough is enough.

atleast 1 nh member has a brain

and this comment isn't supposed to make me defend our LS? Cohibu.. you are an ass.. you were told this many times by more than just me.

go ahead if if u want but even your own members want u to stfu

 

[Elemmire]

ya.. cause he shadowbinded it RIGHT as I ran passed Ulli. I mean exactly down to the second pretty much. Right as I got close enough for Ulli to hit me, Reality shadowbinded it. I complained jokingly.. Vill appologized to me for what happened and I even told Vill "Hehe.. no big deal. I just like to poke fun at Reality" Anyways.. I'm out.

Maybe you need glasses. Ulli was bound way before you ran by it. Thats why I, and everyone else was standing still... cause he was parked right at the door.

Defend yourself all you want. You ran right infront of me after being way back behind me, and next to Ulli. I saw you do something stupid.

first of all.. I was invisible when I was going by so somehow I doubt you saw jackshit. Second of all.. Reality was out there as soon as I went by and did shadowbind and started running back into the hallway and this was as I was passing by. I got killed about right in front of the hallway and he saw it. The rest of Vakrys as a bit further back into the hall and I don't actually ever remember seeing you up there.. nor have I even really seen you do anything with Valkrys in a few months.