One of FFXI's Last Mysteries

Urat

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Cardians...

Specificly the rogue variety. Yeah you remember those guys? There's 40 of 'em, and they all pop in one palce, Outer Horototo Ruins. Specificly in a spot you'll most likely ever go to like, twice, in the whole game, if your windurstian. (There's a spot you go there for to do a mission or two, correct?)

Anywho, these guys aren't even the real mystery. It's their drops. Each one belongs to one of 4 suits, and make up a deck of 52. Just like a real deck!

Now here's the thing, only, like, 5 or so of these 52 cards have a use in a quest. Thats right, there's like a set of 48 items that we have yet to figure out the use for.

There was a myth that holding the card of a cardian prevented aggro, this has been disproven.

So wtf are these things for? Hell, up until two eyars ago, they had an ENTIRE section of the AH to themselves, Misc>Cards.

I'm wondering if the JPs know something we dont, cause looking at the price history, there were an awful lot of JPs buying the cards, especially the higher tier ones, for ridiculous amounts of gil, the kings and queens went for over 100K once upon a time. wtf?

Think about it, why on earth would SE spend the huge amount of time to design 40 mobs in an area, and draw up 52 items, write the scripting for them, and set the drop rate, paths, everything involved with adding the drops and mobs to the area, for these things to have no purpose?

I've noticed a few things with cardians, first off, there are 4 decks of cardians, just like the rogues, in windurst. not only that, from what I've seen, the 4 areas each have a corresponding suit, IE all the cardians in port windurst are the same suit!

Also, it seems that the entire suit is sparsed around its area, so, though I still need to check over and make sure, there appears to be an entire deck of 52 cardians or so, in windurst! Just like in horototo ruins (minus the kings and queens, thats a BCNM)

huh. Thats interesting. I'm going to start experimenting with these cards, my first goal is to get a complete set of suits 2 through 4, maybe 5.

If anyone wants to help, pelase post your theories and feel free to pitch in your help, I'm really curious about these cards.
 
Um, Urat. I've always understood that the cards that drop from the cardians indicate that they (the corresponding cardian) will not aggro you if you hold the card. Granted, that makes no sense considering most cardians won't aggro after like...level 15, but whatever.
 
The cardians go up to level 50 near the end, and no, the cards dont do that, I get aggroed by a cardian even when I have his card, here...

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Category_talk:Cardians

Has anyone ever confirmed a use for the Cardian cards? I have seen the 'non-aggro' thing many times, but at one point put a complete set of 2s and 3s on a low level character, and still got aggro

Playing with the aggro detection, I still can not get the Cardian's in the ruins to aggro sound. They seem to aggro sleep, magic, and resting, regardless of which cards I hold
 
there are level 50ish cardians really deep in there
 
K, I just finished farming, man they dont have that rgeat of drop rate...

Current Cards:

Nine of Cups

Four of Batons

Five of Batons

Four of Swords

Six of Swords

Three of Coins

Next I'm gonna try trading these to various cardians, in a specific orde,r tot ry and figure out whether they do anything, and if so, what rogue suit goes to which normal suit...

Becuase I at least have at least 1 card from each suit, that will make it a bit easier, just hunt down the 9, 4, 6, and 3 of whateve rin a specific area and trade them their card, if something happens, it should, since I'll cover all 4 possible suits... Ok, trying it now, I'll update after...
 
Well, so far here's what I've tried...

Traded 4 of swords, 4 of batons, 3 of coins, and 9 of cups, to their respective clubs in windurst.

Nothing. Though, I only have lv 1 fame, so it may be fame based... Is there anyone with lv 10 so fame in windurst willing to help? The 3 cardians, 4 of clubs,3 of clubs, and 9 of clubs, are rather close together.

Speaking of which, my theory is right, cardians 3 through jack of clubs are ALL in port windurst. It seems there are no 2 of suits cards, but there are 12 of each suit in their respective parts of windurst. Anyone else have any other theories?
 
My opinion:

Not everything in this game has to have a significant reason to exist. I'm sure there are a lot of things SE planned to do but abandoned the project halfway through.
 
ya;

By the way the higher tiers are super rare since you can only get them by defeating the windurst misson NMs. Its possible to 'farm' the joker cards from the rank 9-2 mission ( just kill 3 of the 4 cardians, wipe, try again indefinatly). I remember selling my card high price when I did the mission.

But cards from mobs like queen will be harder, because they don't come from a BCNM, it's spawned mobs in horutoto, and I dont think you can fight it indefinatly:p
 
My opinion:

Not everything in this game has to have a significant reason to exist. I'm sure there are a lot of things SE planned to do but abandoned the project halfway through.

methinks this might be the best answer to what's going on here.
 
Rabbits drop hare meat and bees drop honey. WTF is this stuff for?!?! GG SE.
 
Craft a Cardian Card with a Nidhogg's Scales and Ixion Horn to have a Cardian pet for one hour.
 
Norg Boat [the path leading to it...]
 
Get behind the guard by the Alchemist guild in Bastok Mines
 
Why is this one of the "last" mysteries of ffxi? surely it's one of the first >_> or at least an early one... either way, who gives a shit? lol

P.S. try trading one to the Ebon Panels, maybe it's the key to defeating AV!
 
tall Mountain in Bastok Mines, seen him in a cs in a rank mission but always wondered if behind him was anything interesting. :)



The Japanese love collecting things, those cards may just be there for something to spend time gathering for fun.
 
Isn't there a quest/mission where you have to trade something to a ??? inside one of the pits?
 
Isn't there a quest/mission where you have to trade something to a ??? inside one of the pits?

Its an AF quest i think, possibly mnk... can't remember but i know i did it not too long ago, spawns an elemental.
 
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