Opps

when I was there when he claimed it, when he wasn't afk alky popped claimed. Even for the most seasoned NM campers claiming alkyoneus is hard because of all the dolls there are there. When I killed Alkyoneus before it took a good 5-8 seconds before we could target and claim.
 
Rones said:
You say he was far away. Even with the best bots, you can't provoke out of range unless you teleport. Just doesn't seem like much evidence to damn him over.


Alk spawns in a very small area where the dolls pop, inside the 4 holes in the ground. you can sit at one end of the spawn area and still voke it if it pops on the other end. hope this clears up some confusion
 
Kirayamato said:
well he can continue hiding under the ls skirt for botting
Like his ls will oppose since they will be getting the benefit if it drops.
cold hard gil


Already covered that sir, too late.
 
_Neosquall_ said:
I don't think I've ever seen anyone flame another player because they beat them to a NM claim, and I don't think I'd expect it from two top-notch players like Decidence and Chemira.
Uh, those are very common in the FB. Vang has made more than his fair share. :wink:
 
Wow crazy stuff.

Just got done reading the thread, I'm not making accusations, but if he wasn't botting, and the whole LS was there, why didn't he get a D2 or get saved from being mpk'ed?

I mean if he got aggro from being afk it seems like someone in the LS would've escaped/tele'ed or cured him after the claim. :shock:
 
Hronorigger said:
...when I was there when he claimed it, when he wasn't afk alky popped claimed.

That's impossible, NM's have a ~2sec gap where they can't be claimed when they spawn... They added it in to mess up botters.
 
Bigboy said:
That's impossible, NM's have a ~2sec gap where they can't be claimed when they spawn... They added it in to mess up botters.

Yup, and of course that means it's impossible for people to find a work-around for it.
 
Ibariba said:
Wow crazy stuff.

Just got done reading the thread, I'm not making accusations, but if he wasn't botting, and the whole LS was there, why didn't he get a D2 or get saved from being mpk'ed?

I mean if he got aggro from being afk it seems like someone in the LS would've escaped/tele'ed or cured him after the claim. :shock:
there are dolls around alky
 
Hronorigger said:
When I killed Alkyoneus before it took a good 5-8 seconds before we could target and claim.

He was on my screen for ~3-4 seconds. Lag happens.
 
Hronorigger said:
there are dolls around alky

My point still stands, I just remember a comment along the lines "a bunch of LS members were there" and that "he was talking" (i assume so at least until his AFK), so if the LS could beat Alky while fighting amidst dolls, surely they could hold them off with either sleep or voke for D2/tele for 2 mins. (Unless there was no mage then oh well poor taru :( )

Then again, I'd be kinda mad from finding out I was mpk'ed too while afk... but whatever thats just me I guess. :) :grin:
 
Rappa said:
Bigboy said:
That's impossible, NM's have a ~2sec gap where they can't be claimed when they spawn... They added it in to mess up botters.
Yup, and of course that means it's impossible for people to find a work-around for it.

I can't be sure since it's just text, but I will assume you are being sarcastic and know you would just have to add the delay into the bot's timing and it would be just as effective as it was previously. I was merely stating it is impossible to actually spawn claimed. The closest you could get is if the whole zone were really badly lagged, and because your own connection was so slow you only saw it after people attacked it.
 
I gotta say, I'm finding Chemira's side of the story more convincing :|

Lets see if anything is done about this..
 
Gah, I need a bot. I can't claim a damn thing.

Let's say Necrosis did bot, (devil's advocate if you will).. how many of you others bot, too? Is that why I get this lil' lag spike every time an nm pops? o.O? See a lot of you highly educated on these bots would cause me to think that perhaps he's being singled out. Or perhaps in a few months bots will be as common as mpking -- as long as you have a justified reason to use said bot. Being that he is VERY good at claiming does make it highly suspicious. Also leaves room for many people to cry foul. As much as I'd hate to discover that such a good player was a cheat, I do believe if you want it to be more than a he said she said sittuation that you'd need something more concrete.

-- Problem is, you could tell a person the sky is falling and they're not likely to believe you until they see it fall for themselves. But, then you also have people that you can tell the sky is falling and they'll actually believe it. And as the saying goes, there is always a lie in beLIEve. So as much as fraps would be nice, it's not likely that even it would stand up in court if the jury already felt that he was innocent.

The AFK issue: I am not sure if this NM is lottery or a timed spawn, but I do know Necrosis has always spent a good bit of time with that NM. Being that people do in fact set their alarm clocks for NMs in this game and that his most valuable asset in the sittuation is more so the claim-- if he was in fact busy with things either in rl.. on the computer, homework, etc.. Yah, I could find some logic in him going afk right after the claim. Being that I normally don't go up there often and I'm not too keen on the layout of the mobs there, I'd have to question would he be more of an asset to a team by not moving from his position to avoid links-- eh, but, I suppose I can come up with these logical excuses because I'm a bit biased. I cannot bring myself to believe that he is a cheater, nor do I want to believe that he is. -- Especially on a few pictures that don't prove anything other than the OP breaking rules of TOS. I'm a bit old fasion when I feel two wrongs don't make a right.
 
Some people are so naive lol
 
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