Ouch

holy fuck.. ouch.. that is bad O.o good thing Sony makes an ass ton of money with other electronic stuff >.> but this can't be good for playstation future.. if things don't pick up, Sony might just get outta the gaming business.. hmm
 
That blows, but you knew it was coming. Things won't turn around until more good games are put out.
 
Pasquale said:
That blows, but you knew it was coming. Things won't turn around until more good games are put out.
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By the time Sony gets some good games, Halo 3 will be out and the 360 will get a price cut. Not looking good for PS3 imo.
 
Nycon said:
By the time Sony gets some good games, Halo 3 will be out and the 360 will get a price cut. Not looking good for PS3 imo.
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I think it'll be ok. It had a rocky start because of the price and the less-than-stellar list of games, but I think in time everythign will be fine for Sony.
 
Yea, In the end they will be fine, they just may not take 1st place this time around.
 
Or second... lol. Everyone else is makin money but them!
 
Even for them to take 2nd, it would take years, and I mean years. By then, the Wii will have more single player games, Xbox will have some bigger titles. PS3 just started off too slow.

360- 10,750,000 units sold
Wii - 7,080,000 units sold
PS3- 3,080,000 units sold.


360 had a year head start. Wii is on pace to catch it by a long shot. PS3 is on pace to stay in 3rd for it's lifespan. I think the PS3 will eventually do ok, but it'll be in last place.
 
So. Sony pulls in 128b less profits than last year, and despite the fact that only 2b of that is from the gaming department, its all blamed on the PS3.

The loss is due to that laptop recall early in the quarter, in addition to poor laptop sales after. The PS3 isnt even 10% of that.

Just like M$ makes all of its money off windows and the like, and says to hell with the Xbox cost, so too does sony to an extent.
 
Marajade said:
So. Sony pulls in 128b less profits than last year, and despite the fact that only 2b of that is from the gaming department, its all blamed on the PS3.

The loss is due to that laptop recall early in the quarter, in addition to poor laptop sales after. The PS3 isnt even 10% of that.

Just like M$ makes all of its money off windows and the like, and says to hell with the Xbox cost, so too does sony to an extent.
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According to the article, they only 596 million in profits over the last fiscal year, dropping down 1.28 billion from last year's reports, I don't see where you're getting 128 billion from unless you're looking to yen. Hell, one of the VP's(on the Yahoo news article I read) said that the PS3 is one of the big reasons for this loss.

No the drop in profit's isn't solely due to the PS3, but a good chunk of it was.
 
Bajaratt said:
No the drop in profit's isn't solely due to the PS3, but a good chunk of it was.
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My bad, was looking at yen. I'd just woke up.

And no, according to the report put out by sony (the one with details on the divisions themselves) the gaming section lost out only in that last year was still before PS3 came out, and PS2 was making them money. The development costs of the last 3 years for the PS3 were not included in the gaming division before, and were now tacked on for this year.

And the largest drop in profits by department was computers because of the laptop battery issue.
 
Marajade said:
The development costs of the last 3 years for the PS3 were not included in the gaming division before, and were now tacked on for this year.
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That's how you keep investors money to remain in your stocks. Hell, since the stocks dropped from this report I bought stock in sony. XD Now's the time to buy, after all. It's guarunteed to go back up.
 
Kotsu said:
That's how you keep investors money to remain in your stocks. Hell, since the stocks dropped from this report I bought stock in sony. XD Now's the time to buy, after all. It's guarunteed to go back up.
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LOL. It's the stock market - no different than a casino. There are no guarantees in either.
 
I find it interesting that despite the laptop battery explosions (lollerskates) and the colossal loss from PS3, they're still in the black.

Their profit went down 1.2 billion, but the PS3 lost them 1.9 billion, and god alone knows how much the laptop battery thing took away... Sony has enough other markets to keep going despite the losses.

This still doesn't look good for the games divison, though, that's for sure.
 
Marajade said:
The loss is due to that laptop recall early in the quarter, in addition to poor laptop sales after. The PS3 isnt even 10% of that.
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"In the Game segment, there was a significant operating loss as a result of the sale of PS3 at strategic price points lower than its production cost during the introductory period," said the company in its annual report.
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"In the Game segment, there was a significant operating loss
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Game segment
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No, it wasn't entirely due to laptops.
 
If you're going to dumb it down like that, do you want to go ahead and define "significant?" God, you have a hard time thinking your arguments through. Go to somewhere like Alla where you might not look stupid. 5% is a significant percentage, doofus.
 
Antor said:
If you're going to dumb it down like that, do you want to go ahead and define "significant?" God, you have a hard time thinking your arguments through. Go to somewhere like Alla where you might not look stupid. 5% is a significant percentage, doofus.
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You're one to talk, moron. Applying entirely different termonology just because the word is the same.

If it was mostly the batteries, why is Sony themselves putting the PS3s production at fault exclusively? Learn to read the articles that are actually linked, jackass.

Consumer Electronics saw profit. Thats cameras, computers(including recalled Laptop batteries,) stereos, etc.
Games saw a loss.
The Games devision was called out by Sony, because the Games division is where (most of) the fault lies.

The. Fucking. End.

Considering how most of the world views the PS3, you'd figure that would be the last thing they'd blame, regardless of how much it's actually cost them.
 
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Pasquale said:
I think it'll be ok. It had a rocky start because of the price and the less-than-stellar list of games, but I think in time everythign will be fine for Sony.
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You're forgetting PS3 is losing exclusives.
 
romperstomper said:
You're forgetting PS3 is losing exclusives.
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it's lost.. what? two? Devil May Cry 4 (I never found the series too great, games were so easy :P) and Assassin's Creed? (which originally I think just stated it was gonna be on PS3). Other than that, nothing really. So far FFXIII and FFXIII versus are PS3 only still.. sure there are OTHER games in the series of FFXIII that aren't PS3 only but meh? MGS4 still exclusive. Lair, etc. GTA hasn't REALLY been exclusive sine GTA 2 (and don't say that because it comes out on one system first means it's exclusive.. exclusive means it's ONLY for that system). Soo.. that's not new. People are like "ZOMG PS3 IS LOSING SO MANY EXCLUSIVES!" when I can only really think of two. One I don't even care about :P Or am I forgetting some games? hmmm
 
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