Palides and Art of War

I've DC/ed just before openning my box from up in arms. And i don't get that many seals in game anymore so i was really pissed, cause the last thing i said to the 2 that where with me was to exit so i'd be the only one to run around.
Point is you can't make assumptions into a flame. If there was hard evedence fair enough. Other wise just suck it up and get on with it.
 
I don't know if you've done runs like this with TAoW before or not, but we've done ksnm runs with 8 people before rotating in and out as needed. And if you wanna know about horrible dc experiences ask Grandphnx about the time we farmed for a long time looking for animosity then I finally get it and my pc crashes a second before I pop it.
DC's happen at the worst times but it doesn't mean that people are forcing it.
 
But when it happens to this guy as often as everyone claims, it's not so hard to believe he's a chronic forced d/cer
Get your shit and bounce? Check
Dislike the party you just joined? Checked and plugs pulled
Getting tired of farming in sky? Check


Claiming this shit happens often just works against the guy. I have time warner myself and have had it for over 5 years. If the service was as bad the guy claimed, why haven't I been forced to d/c as often? The only time my internet goes down is if I forget to pay my bills and it usually goes off at around 2am pst anyways.

Seems like excuses to me. I honestly wouldn't be paying for service that was that crappy. I'd have been pretty pissed off and at least have them repair it. Seems to me this Palides dude has been doing it for quite some time. I'd give the dude the benefit of the doubt but shit, it's far too convenient for the guy.

I hear all these people with their awful d/c stories about how, once in a bloo moon, some guys cousins best friends left arm disconnected during kirin pops. That's cool and all but the way i'm getting is this guy in the flame is notorious for d/cing.

And people are still talking about the fact that Marxx left. You're forgetting the morality that explains his action. I'm sure if you ever felt that you were used, you'd have left for your own good. I'm sure you all wouldn't stoop down to their level and hold your pride above all else.

God, this place is filled with dumbasses. Such irrational things. Blech
 
I don't know if you've done runs like this with TAoW before or not, but we've done ksnm runs with 8 people before rotating in and out as needed. And if you wanna know about horrible dc experiences ask Grandphnx about the time we farmed for a long time looking for animosity then I finally get it and my pc crashes a second before I pop it.
DC's happen at the worst times but it doesn't mean that people are forcing it.

You totally forced it and we/they know it!
 
But when it happens to this guy as often as everyone claims, it's not so hard to believe he's a chronic forced d/cer
Get your shit and bounce? Check
Dislike the party you just joined? Checked and plugs pulled
Getting tired of farming in sky? Check


Claiming this shit happens often just works against the guy. I have time warner myself and have had it for over 5 years. If the service was as bad the guy claimed, why haven't I been forced to d/c as often? The only time my internet goes down is if I forget to pay my bills and it usually goes off at around 2am pst anyways.

Seems like excuses to me. I honestly wouldn't be paying for service that was that crappy. I'd have been pretty pissed off and at least have them repair it. Seems to me this Palides dude has been doing it for quite some time. I'd give the dude the benefit of the doubt but shit, it's far too convenient for the guy.

I hear all these people with their awful d/c stories about how, once in a bloo moon, some guys cousins best friends left arm disconnected during kirin pops. That's cool and all but the way i'm getting is this guy in the flame is notorious for d/cing.

And people are still talking about the fact that Marxx left. You're forgetting the morality that explains his action. I'm sure if you ever felt that you were used, you'd have left for your own good. I'm sure you all wouldn't stoop down to their level and hold your pride above all else.

God, this place is filled with dumbasses. Such irrational things. Blech

So he force DC's on the Sky shell HE runs? Get your facts straight. You're obviously not reading all the posts properly.

Theres times he DCs, and manages to come back, and theres other times (like last night when he DCed right as he was going into the Antlion in Sheep's Clothing ENM) when he DCs and is unable to log back on.

The DC itself is at most fish, ill give you that. But the fact that Marxx left AFTER a rep was found AND starting a flame about it only shows HE is the bigger douche here.
 
The DC itself is at most fish, ill give you that. But the fact that Marxx left AFTER a rep was found AND starting a flame about it only shows HE is the bigger douche here.

LMFAO -

Fact : Hexx suggested I was right to flame Palidades earlier in the thread for what happened. (Palidades dc immidiatly after getting drops AFTER he had a solid connection for three + hours)

Fact : Palidades own ls mate suggested that I was the "Bigger" douche here. - So at least you admit that it was a total D-bag move on Palidades part

If the best they can do is suggest that I acted impulsively leaving before the run concluded, I can live with that.

And as far as the idea that its the same as what Palidades did, well, I dint get my drops, maybe by my choice, but I left with the idea that if anyone screwed the remaining orb holders, it was Palidades. Palidades got his, and dint show back up at all. And the original person who mentioned the remaining members in the run was me, so to say that I'm inconsiderate looks like a desperate defense effort by people with their nose rammed up a certain shell holders backside.

One more thing Hexx, you arent really helping Palidades, I might be wrong, but I bet Palidades would prefer it if you would stop "helping" him on QCDN, could be wrong, but since your actually repping your entire ls, I doubt it.

One more thing about the blame game that people are trying to turn this into;

I said upfront and continuously throughout the thread that my only goal here is to warn people about a potential problem they might have with Palidades and furthermore with The art of war as a whole, THIS IS NOT A GAME WHERE WE TRY TO DECIDE WHO WAS THE BIGGER DICK - But it seems like people are trying to make it about that, I told everyone what happened, if you don't think Palidades or the ls did it deliberately, well, I said myself that they were magnificent in the BC. Anyone who wants to try playin with em, hell, I wish ya the best of luck. And the fact is, they were fun to play with, right up until I felt like I had just been penetrated with a dildo the size of an elephant trunk. And I thought it was soo obvious that I left the run and flamed an entire ls, but opinions vary, like i said, if you don't agree, gl to you.
 
Agreed. Yes, its highly suspicious the way Palides DCed, but as I stated before, its not the first time he does it. He DCed during Tyger the other day (the one where Shado CFH), he DCed during a full LS merit PT, and many other instances. Flaming the WHOLE LS even though they went out of their way to get another person to sub in for Palides so you could pop your orb, and at the same time hook someone else up.

See, I would get flaming Palides for the DC, but when he brought in the whole issue of the LS finding someone to replace him, he took the wind out of a decent flame because he made the LS look good in tryin to get someone to help finish popping his orb. If Marxx left of his own accord then he has no one to blame but himself for leaving.

So ya, I quoted this just to remind you what you suggested previously. LoL .. I think its pretty obvious to everyone whos read your last post who the biggest D-bag is, and FYI it prolly aint Palidades or me.
 
LMFAO -

Fact : Hexx suggested I was right to flame Palidades earlier in the thread for what happened. (Palidades dc immidiatly after getting drops AFTER he had a solid connection for three + hours)

Fact : Palidades own ls mate suggested that I was the "Bigger" douche here. - So at least you admit that it was a total D-bag move on Palidades part

If the best they can do is suggest that I acted impulsively leaving before the run concluded, I can live with that.

And as far as the idea that its the same as what Palidades did, well, I dint get my drops, maybe by my choice, but I left with the idea that if anyone screwed the remaining orb holders, it was Palidades. Palidades got his, and dint show back up at all. And the original person who mentioned the remaining members in the run was me, so to say that I'm inconsiderate looks like a desperate defense effort by people with their nose rammed up a certain shell holders backside.

One more thing Hexx, you arent really helping Palidades, I might be wrong, but I bet Palidades would prefer it if you would stop "helping" him on QCDN, could be wrong, but since your actually repping your entire ls, I doubt it.

One more thing about the blame game that people are trying to turn this into;

I said upfront and continuously throughout the thread that my only goal here is to warn people about a potential problem they might have with Palidades and furthermore with The art of war as a whole, THIS IS NOT A GAME WHERE WE TRY TO DECIDE WHO WAS THE BIGGER DICK - But it seems like people are trying to make it about that, I told everyone what happened, if you don't think Palidades or the ls did it deliberately, well, I said myself that they were magnificent in the BC. Anyone who wants to try playin with em, hell, I wish ya the best of luck. And the fact is, they were fun to play with, right up until I felt like I had just been penetrated with a dildo the size of an elephant trunk. And I thought it was soo obvious that I left the run and flamed an entire ls, but opinions vary, like i said, if you don't agree, gl to you.

Fact: I said its "fishy at best" but you are obviously ignoring the examples where people are telling you that he DCs all the time due to a shitty connection. Many of us here (myself included) have had great connection for hours on end, only to DC at the worst time possible. Its a fact of life, deal with it, move on with it, and grow up.

Fact: Yes you are the bigger douche, Palides himself came on here and congratulated you on a job well done, yet you don't even aknowledge it.

Fact: Palides (and the rest of the shell) have seen what I post on here, and I won't mince words either, hence why I say if he DID force DC, it was a douchebag thing to do, but considering that the rest of the people were also LS members, we ALL highly doubt it.

Fact: Yes you are inconsiderate, for a number of reasons: 1) You started a flame against the rest of the members, when they went out of their way to find a rep so YOU could pop your orb as well, 2) You DITCHED the rest of them when that 6th person was on the way to help inconveniencing them as well, 3) Judging by your previous flame (about gear swappers in campaign) you have a serious lack of judgement and consideration for others and are pretty self centered and selfish to boot.

No, this isn't a game where we try to find out who the bigger dick is, but fact is you fucked your own flame over by flaming people who tried to help you out. My main purpose here is to defend my LS, an LS I have been with since BEFORE it was called TheArtofWar (w00t gogo vanadielSINsociety), so don't go making generalizations when you yourself have your head way too far up your ass to take other's needs into consideration as well. You said it best, you acted impulsively, which means you didn't give thought to what you were about to do, hell, when I mentioned this flame to my LS, they were wondering wtf was going on, since they felt everything had gone pretty smoothly, save for that one DC on Palides' part.

In the end Marxx, you have earned yourself a spot on a fair portion of our LS's badside. No, I wont blacklist you, Ill keep you off of it just to see what other stupid shit you come up with. Wanna know why? Because I wanna be there when you write ANOTHER failure of a flame.

peace out dumbass
 
So ya, I quoted this just to remind you what you suggested previously. LoL .. I think its pretty obvious to everyone whos read your last post who the biggest D-bag is, and FYI it prolly aint Palidades or me.

You seriously are stupid arent you? You get dropped on the head a little too much as a child? Im showing you examples of DCs that happened where he WOULDNT be screwing over people. But of course, idiots like you only read what they think will benefit their idiotic cause. Go ahead, keep making an idiot of yourself, we're all laughing in LS chat at the bullshit you keep typing.

:nopity:
 
You seriously are stupid arent you? You get dropped on the head a little too much as a child? Im showing you examples of DCs that happened where he WOULDNT be screwing over people. But of course, idiots like you only read what they think will benefit their idiotic cause. Go ahead, keep making an idiot of yourself, we're all laughing in LS chat at the bullshit you keep typing.

:nopity:

Are you serious? Hexx, if no one knew Palides including yourself you'd be all for "fuck him he orbed and force DC'ed" I've seen you do it. Honestly, how is Marxx being a douche? He left before his orb was even popped. He got NOTHING out of the 3 hours he had to stay, rather than popping his orb and DCing "Coincidence."

You all might be laughing in LS chat, but honestly you are giving some good "friend defense" here. W/e marxx did after the fact, having someone else come up w/ an orb is a bigger douche move. Marxx was only obliged to stay the 6 members, would you rather him get his shit and THEN leave? That'd be a douche move....oh wait see what I did there?
 
You all might be laughing in LS chat, but honestly you are giving some good "friend defense" here.
About time someone else wised up. One sexy point for you, jyak, redeemable at any time.
 
And as far as the idea that its the same as what Palidades did, well, I dint get my drops, maybe by my choice, but I left with the idea that if anyone screwed the remaining orb holders, it was Palidades. Palidades got his, and dint show back up at all. And the original person who mentioned the remaining members in the run was me, so to say that I'm inconsiderate looks like a desperate defense effort by people with their nose rammed up a certain shell holders backside.

Palides left and according to you screwed over yourself AND the other person still to pop.... They replaced him, so YOU left, and again the other person still left to pop got screwed. Just because you were in a huff when you did it doesn't make it any different.

Anyone who doesn't think ass backwards can see it's the same thing. Surprised that the 6th person didn't flame you right back in fact, seeing how you are flaming the whole shell and all.
 
Palides left and according to you screwed over yourself AND the other person still to pop.... They replaced him, so YOU left, and again the other person still left to pop got screwed. Just because you were in a huff when you did it doesn't make it any different.

Anyone who doesn't think ass backwards can see it's the same thing. Surprised that the 6th person didn't flame you right back in fact, seeing how you are flaming the whole shell and all.

Technically it'd be the 7th person who'd flame him. And if it were me, and I didn't know them(factoring they were all from the same shell) I'd have done the same thing as Marxx.

I'd be pissed that they want to pop another orb on my time, I am all for helping. But I BET they didn't even ask marxx if it was cool if the person they were bringing into help, could pop his/her/it's orb. I bet they all chattered in linkshell chat, leaving Marxx out of the loop.
 
While i still think its silly for marxx to have left without attempting to get something for himself, im pretty shocked that Hexx is so adamantly defending Palides after multiple threads have shown the type of person he seems to be, insulting Marxx isnt a good way to defend your friend mate.
 
Sorry for double post but also, Hexx, you are defending Palides more than he, himself is. He's supposed to be your leader, he shouldnt be leaving you out here handling his battles. Or maybe his internet is just down...
 
what boggles my mind is why palides runs a sky ls, attempts KS99, or does anything end game-ish with anyone if he has such a poor internet connection. more surprising to me is that people still let him come to events knowing that at any moment he can DC and not come back for days, as it seems it took him quite a while to reply because he had no internet.

none of this makes any sense to me.
 
Just unapproved some posts in this thread.

Shit like "This is whats flameworthy?" and/or trolling the thread and posting mindless shit just because the OP hasn't answered you yet, is tasteless and really takes away from the content (should there be any to begin with). Nor does it mean the thread has "backfired". Keep it on topic and keep it relevant or it goes away.

To be honest if someone feels like the flame is stupid and/or it has backfired, that kinda is still on topic.

Because, well, this flame is stupid. Palides may or may not have fake DC'd. I can't really vouch for it either way. But the rest of the linkshell really wasn't at fault and they found someone who agreed to come and help the group out if they did their orb to. Whats so wrong about that? Not many people would agree to come and do a BCNM without getting their own orb used. Sure Palides may have been at fault, but the OP was also dumb for leaving without his orb getting done.

Of course if Palides planned all of this beforehand with his LS then forget everything I said, but I don't really see a way to prove that.
 
Fact: I said its "fishy at best" but you are obviously ignoring the examples where people are telling you that he DCs all the time due to a shitty connection. Many of us here (myself included) have had great connection for hours on end, only to DC at the worst time possible. Its a fact of life, deal with it, move on with it, and grow up.

Fact: Yes you are the bigger douche, Palides himself came on here and congratulated you on a job well done, yet you don't even aknowledge it.

Fact: Palides (and the rest of the shell) have seen what I post on here, and I won't mince words either, hence why I say if he DID force DC, it was a douchebag thing to do, but considering that the rest of the people were also LS members, we ALL highly doubt it.

Fact: Yes you are inconsiderate, for a number of reasons: 1) You started a flame against the rest of the members, when they went out of their way to find a rep so YOU could pop your orb as well, 2) You DITCHED the rest of them when that 6th person was on the way to help inconveniencing them as well, 3) Judging by your previous flame (about gear swappers in campaign) you have a serious lack of judgement and consideration for others and are pretty self centered and selfish to boot.

No, this isn't a game where we try to find out who the bigger dick is, but fact is you fucked your own flame over by flaming people who tried to help you out. My main purpose here is to defend my LS, an LS I have been with since BEFORE it was called TheArtofWar (w00t gogo vanadielSINsociety), so don't go making generalizations when you yourself have your head way too far up your ass to take other's needs into consideration as well. You said it best, you acted impulsively, which means you didn't give thought to what you were about to do, hell, when I mentioned this flame to my LS, they were wondering wtf was going on, since they felt everything had gone pretty smoothly, save for that one DC on Palides' part.

In the end Marxx, you have earned yourself a spot on a fair portion of our LS's badside. No, I wont blacklist you, Ill keep you off of it just to see what other stupid shit you come up with. Wanna know why? Because I wanna be there when you write ANOTHER failure of a flame.

peace out dumbass

Fact #3 - Scroll up, you said "fish" not "fishy" - but really, thanks for clarifying that cause for a second I thought you were just dropped on your head as a child. :wink:

And Hexx, I never suggested that you were mincing words, or that you should. I was suggesting that you are in fact too dumb to be trying to defend an entire group of people that you weren't even a part of, for something that they are obviously hoping will just fade out. I mean really, forget taking hints, your not smart enough to catch em. Let me make this clear for you, if they wanted your help, you would need to be helping them, and they haven't posted on here so you aren't. All you've managed to do is call me a few names and suggets that my post was a failure, but what you aren't realizing is that every time another person reads through it, I'm accomplishing my goal. I set out to tell people what happened, and you're helping me do that by prolonging it. (To clarify for the rest of you, I'm actually hoping that Hexx just deletes his QCDN acct in emberrassment or puts his fist thru his screen in anger. Either way, damn funny!!)

Soo, heres the deal, I've said what I had to say. And in the first couple pages of this flame I was called about every name imaginable. So really, I don't have much to lose Hexx. I told your silly ass 3 pages ago that every time you respond, I'm going to continue posting about what happened, and this is no different.

The Story;
I thought, and do think that it was crappy that a person who organized a run and then had a perfect connection for 3+ hours dc'd the second he got his drops. Then your ls, The Art of War, just happened to have another dd that was available and had enough seals. Even though the runs were going well, I felt like it was a contrived act on the part of your ls, and I was very upset, so, I left the run. I feel bad that the 6th person in the original group dint get to use his orb along with myself, but as I said earlier, I did and do believe that either Palidades, his ISP or the entire ls is to blame for this. After all, if in fact I'm right, and it was a premeditated move by the ls to work in an extra orb, then that would explain an awful lot about why they haven't bothered posting any sort of defense here about it. The only defense seen in these forums by an actual member of the run came from Palidades, and my response to him directly was that I dint believe it was possible for his connection to fail at such a controversial time after it had been good all day.

I want to repeat, Hexx was not actually present for the run. All he is doing is blindly defending his friends, even when they aren't doing it themselves.

And..

For the record, I'll repeat that the run was good, the conversation funny, and the fights easy with them. If I dint feel like I was used, I would prolly have tried to make friends.

About the past thread on QCDN;
Hexx, Call me crazy, but I don't really think that suggesting people will get more xp in campaign if they are alive was soo inconsiderate, especially when I'm trying to heal them to make it happen. But, that was met with mixed responses, so, I called it a day and stopped taking whm to campaign.

Heres Fact #4 - EVERY post on qcdn is met with intense scrutiny, people don't just fall over in agreement with flames, they need to be persuaded. And even then, often people reading these are just taking an educated or opinionated guess at what the correct answer is / was.

Sooo... the success or failure of a post on qcdn is largly dependant on the goal it was started with. On page 6 of this one after 4 days, I'm going to consider it a continuing success... And I partly have you to thank for this Hexx.. soo thx for makin my job here easier

At this point pokin Hexx is like pokin an angry harmless snake for fun.
 
Because, well, this flame is stupid. Palides may or may not have fake DC'd. I can't really vouch for it either way. But the rest of the linkshell really wasn't at fault and they found someone who agreed to come and help the group out if they did their orb to. Whats so wrong about that? Not many people would agree to come and do a BCNM without getting their own orb used. Sure Palides may have been at fault, but the OP was also dumb for leaving without his orb getting done.

Of course if Palides planned all of this beforehand with his LS then forget everything I said, but I don't really see a way to prove that.

You're right, there is no way to prove it, but whether the thread is stupid or not, I've said from the go that it was about telling people what I think happened to warn them, nothing more. (The fact that Hexx is makin an ass out of himself is just a fun added perk.)

I stand firm on the fact that I believe any person who's posted on here would be very upset if if someone dc'd a minute after getting their drops, especially after having a perfect connection all day. Honestly, if I would have seen Palidades go red dot, even w/o a full dc one time that day, this flame wouldn't be here. But his connection was in fact good all day, and he never mentioned lag or potential dc problems, so... like I said earlier, if you trust Palidades and his connection, go for it, outside of feeling completely used, they were awesome to run with. But frankly, even though they were good, I wouldn't do it again, either his connection is soo bad that he can't be relied on, or he can't be trusted, either way, it poses a problem.
 
Back
Top