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[Skaw]

Bards curing your pt? Okay, then your bard's going to die when he runs out of mp to cure himself. They get hit on almost every pull. If they don't cure themselves, guess who cures them? Yup, that whm/rdm trying to conserve mp.

Again. The other melees have provoke available to them. You can use it without switching targets :V I usually provoke a mob thats been lullabied. Someone with /nin that isn't the main ire of the target under fire can provoke as the mob is being pulled to camp. Seriously, it's not too hard.

 

[Skaw]

Funny i would have to quote myself...you want the bard to give you cures too? lol how selfish can you get...

Congratulations on your chakra...fighting 3 mamools per minutes, ws'ing 2 outa 3, your chakra keeps up...its a cure IV, meaning it pulls hate right back if u use it midfight....inconsistancies are funny

I seriously wanna see you down 3 VT/IT mamool jas every 20 seconds. Do it. Record it. Impossible.

I dunno. Maybe you guys should figure out the work arounds for having everyone in the PT subbing ninja. It seriously sounds like you need to experiment and see what you're not doing to benefit your party better. Benefiting the MP pool isn't the same as benefiting the party.

 

[jamal]

And yet, NIN/WARs and WAR/NINs have provoke. Ones equipped as well as Decidence and Jamal should have no issue pulling something back from a Monk equipped and merited like myself.

another selfish act...

Decidence and Jamal use their provoke to Voke the next mobs in order...with 2 or 3 fights, the hell if i'm gonna be worried about an overzealous monk.

Tag, 11.5k/hour is great don't get me wrong...but i'll keep our exp/hour with mnk/nin to myself

 

[Crosis]

Other two melee were both WAR/NIN if I remember correctly, and the party had a Bard... we managed 11.5k/hr and only had to pause for MP once after we made a mistake in the pull order and had to handle half the path's repops all at once.

Well, that's decent exp. But I've done 18.5k/hr with Mnk/Nin, War/Nin x2, Nin/War, Brd and Whm in that same spot. And probably thanks to everyone subbing nin and skilled players really.

 

[Zoolander]

meh, I see mnk/war only useful for gimp mnks that wont be pulling hate regardless. Brutal earring, god gear, merits, and intelligence to use that equip correctly and I dont see a reason why the mnk shouldnt sub nin.

/war just seems lazy to me, "let the other jobs tank." And if you are any kind of respectable monk, if you WS early you should have hate for some time, especially if you are /war. So if you have any kind of common sense, you would have to hold back and wait to WS. Well, if you are /nin, there is no holding back. And with /nin you are doing your part to tank with the rest of the melee.

Is the risk of death, using up mage mp, and slowing down the pulling really worth a few % on the parse?

 

[Skaw]

another selfish act...

Decidence and Jamal use their provoke to Voke the next mobs in order...with 2 or 3 fights, the hell if i'm gonna be worried about an overzealous monk.

Tag, 11.5k/hour is great don't get me wrong...but i'll keep our exp/hour with mnk/nin to myself

If you're seriously that tight-assed about your exp/hr(I seriously don't think it can be that much higher,) I'd like you to meet my friend, Mr. Sunlight.

 

[Skaw]

Well, that's decent exp. But I've done 18.5k/hr with Mnk/Nin, War/Nin x2, and Nin/War Brd and Whm in that same spot.

Wheres the proof? Cause I highly doubt that.

 

[Skaw]

meh, I see mnk/war only useful for gimp mnks that wont be pulling hate regardless. Brutal earring, god gear, merits, and intelligence to use that equip correctly and I dont see a reason why the mnk shouldnt sub nin.

/war just seems lazy to me, "let the other jobs tank." And if you are any kind of respectable monk, if you WS early you should have hate for some time, especially if you are /war. So if you have any kind of common sense, you would have to hold back and wait to WS. Well, if you are /nin, there is no holding back. And with /nin you are doing your part to tank with the rest of the melee.

Is the risk of death, using up mage mp, and slowing down the pulling really worth a few % on the parse?

Oh no! Making the party work! Such a tough job! And you wonder why people think melees just autoattack and AFK? Here it is folks.

 

[jamal]

Well, that's decent exp. But I've done 18.5k/hr with Mnk/Nin, War/Nin x2, and Nin/War Brd and Whm in that same spot.

now who needs to see what they can do to lets see, how did you phrase it,"not make your party better?"

I wouldn't have a beef with you skaw if you would at least try /nin and stop defending on blank claims because you're too stubborn to lvl a needed subjob

 

[Rappa]

We did 21k/hour once, but Decidence wasn't there for that. Chain #239 gogogo!

 

[Rappa]

http://decidence.co.nr/ Check Parses - May 2nd

"Party Information: Not shown is WHM (Myrid) and BRD (Crosis). We got 47,000 XP in 2.5hrs this PT... yes that's almost 20k/hr.
Additional Information: Obtained Walahra Turban yesterday. 54.3% of battles I used a WS in, Jamal is at 65.2%.. huge."

 

[Skaw]

now who needs to see what they can do to lets see, how did you phrase it,"not make your party better?"

I wouldn't have a beef with you skaw if you would at least try /nin and stop defending on blank claims because you're too stubborn to lvl a needed subjob

It's not exactly needed. I dunno why people keep thinking that. Thats my beef with the ZOMGSUBNINORDIE attitude thats been arising from the game as of late. I can get great exp without it. Plus, I don't have the inventory to support levleing it. You can get more exp? Good for you, if thats what appeals to you. But calling someone who doesn't have it leveled high enough to sub because it doesn't appeal to them warrants being insulted by being called an MP Sponge? You're the one who started this with that line. Not me. I've found my work around for it, maybe you should too.

Like I stated earlier, if NIN was all there was to sub, why have more jobs.

 

[jamal]

It's not exactly needed.

It is needed to make claims that parties do better with you subbed war...

 

[Zoolander]

Oh no! Making the party work! Such a tough job! And you wonder why people think melees just autoattack and AFK? Here it is folks.

the hell are you talking about? God you are blind, if you arent pulling any kind of hate then obviously you arent as good of a mnk as you claim to be, I guess maybe thats why you need /war? And 11k an hour at that spot is nothing to brag about.

Good cannon, bard keeps 2 songs up at all times, whm or rdm never needs bard to ballad, bard constantly pulls, and melee hardly ever take dmg. It all starts with melee not taking DMG. Good mnk can do just fine with /nin, and obviously it can do more than good enough if nearly every fucking person on every server uses mnk/nin on pretty much everything but KRT parties.

 

[jamal]

Like I stated earlier, if NIN was all there was to sub, why have more jobs.

THere's also more subs then /war bro...you don't acknowledge /nin as a viable sub in any situation. I've partied krt with mnks/war, hell go for it...this is a different spot, you need to adapt to your surroundings. I make gear modifications to benefit the party, I'll first voke even tho i know it lowers my total dmg because of shadow recasts...its about bein a team player lol

 

[Skaw]

It is needed to make claims that parties do better with you subbed war...

I have no idea what you tried to say with that. But that PT I was in with Tag, the other members weren't exactly excellently equipped. I'm not even top rung myself. The exp was great with what we have, and could have been better if others were at the calibur of yourself. You're comparing Apples EXP with Oranges EXP, and trying to point out that the only correlation laid in me having WAR sub instead of NIN sub.

 

[Zoolander]

You can get more exp? Good for you, if thats what appeals to you.

lmao, are you serious?

 

[Skaw]

lmao, are you serious?

Uh, okay shut in. Sorry if I think the game isn't exactly everything in the world. Way to ignore the rest of the post as well, that wasn't exactly a top-of-the-line equipment PT.

You guys have never partied with me, so I guess we can chalk this one up to clash of opinions. I've found my work around. I can keep up. If you want to think I don't, fine. Don't trash my setup unless you've seen it operate.

 

[jamal]

You guys have never partied with me, so I guess we can chalk this one up to clash of opinions. I've found my work around. I can keep up. If you want to think I don't, fine. Don't trash my setup unless you've seen it operate.

I asked you to party before, but you declined because you were unwilling to go /nin for an aura-weaps party in sky

but i guess thats my fault for not wanting an mpsponge right?

 

[Skaw]

I asked you to party before, but you declined because you were unwilling to go /nin for an aura-weaps party in sky

but i guess thats my fault for not wanting an mpsponge right?

Guess I'll chalk that one up to your own ignorance. My set up outweighs VT Whirl of Rage, had you believed me, you would've seen.

And yes, I do admit that Ninja is a viable subjob. I don't have it leveled due to lack of inventory. As well, I don't actively participate in those activities where it would far outweigh /WHM for Monk. You have to realize Monk is not Warrior. Whats useful as a subjob to us isn't the same as whats useful as a subjob to you.