Passions the greedy whore>.>

I've stayed outa this thread for a damn good while, until now. I don't know what happened between you and Keitaro, but I do know for a fact you aren't gonna meet any people nicer or willing to help than the people who are in that shell.

I've been a Keitaro member for a long time. That is my main home. I may not have been in the shell too much before the month or shell, but I've never quit posting on the boards and have always been a part of the Keitaro/Force Council family. I don't know a person in there who has "an attitude problem", and I honestly don't appreciate you saying that.

Furthermore, the majority of people who are in Keitaro range in age from about 26-44 (me being the 44 year old). Most of us are married with children of their own and very responsible, hard working adults. I just cannot fathom where you could say that they/we have attitude problems. The members of Keitaro are imho the most giving and helpful people you'd ever meet.

Lastly, there are some younger people in the shell, but what I've seen so far, they are very responsible young adults who don't act childish in any way, shape or form.

I truly believe you better backpedal on that last post and big time. I, for one, do NOT appreciate it.
 
Kat said:
I may not have been in the shell too much before the month or shell, but I've never quit posting on the boards and have always been a part of the Keitaro/Force Council family.

Sorry, very tired. That should read:

I may not have been in the shell too much before the past month, but*
 
Numa said:
this whole game is all about Karma.
If you truly help people, youll make friends, and if you need something later on, theyll be there to help you whenever you need it. If you take advantage of people or are an ass, youll spend your end game alone.

I actually felt sorry for Cowlba when He hit endgame and had noone to enjoy it with.

Ill leave it at that.
 
The Druw said:
First off, are you talking about actually Soloing or Farming?

For BLM? http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/5965

They can't Melee. the Accuracy +10 is a waste.


for RDM?
http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/7539 Perhaps due to the casting interruption lowere'd.

http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/4327 MP say what?

http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/6463 Perhaps so stuff sticks? And you still get Accuracy?


For WHM? ....rofl what're you doing soloing?

Now, I'm not entirely 100% Sure those are better, just tossing out possibilities.


Heh. I'm sorry. But that's a very useful piece of equipment for melee in experience point party's and thus I will never see a priority for a Mage to get it.

i can tell you not that high lvl or you would know that the first 2 hat there are dam near impossible to get.

as for the 3rd ummm no, af hat would have better use then that, wise cap was the biggest waist of 300k ive done
 
The Druw said:
I've already stated, I would help a mage get a hate, before I'm attacked and mauled for that.


However, Because it's so good? Have you know heard of the Iqgira Head Piece?

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Igqira Tiara Level: 73 Slot: Head Type: Stout Cloth Jobs: BLM Races: All Defense: 20 Auction House Category:
Armor / HeadEffects for Igqira Tiara:
Ok. So.
A) It has equal evasion to O.Hat.
B) It has Enfeebling Magic Skill +10, Doesn't Sleep, or Bind fall into that category?
C) If you take a hit, the opponeent gets CURSED.


So, like, as a 75BLM, Do you need the Melee and Ranged Accuracy? <_<;

Like, if you wanna wear that ugly ass hat, more power to you. But, it just seems like that Tiara would be a better choice.....for a BLM...any high end BLM correct me if I"m wrong, and why. :/
agian i can tell you have not gone that far into endgame or even pre endgame
 
yet agian a war of mages vs melee:banghead3:
why am i not surpise. I see the normal argument melee deserve more the mage. Mage sould go last. See if this was a linkshell event then yes melee sould get dibs frist, but if it is a pick up/ open invite then the rule change.
You dont know these people and they dont know you. So it should go the person who set up party get hat first<or person who leader is doing event for> then everyone else do lottery. same go for carbie mitts, rum pumps, revive mail or any other ??? pop nms. I got my carbie mitts my smn is only lvl 3. I got my o hat my closes melee job is only 33. why because the oppetunity arise to get it so i got it. you never know when you need it if someone will be willing to help you get so you take thing when they come to you. If a mage spent the time to get all the eyes then have it syth into a eye soup thing then he sould have every right to get his hat. plus if everyone is suppost to get a hat then why much the mage go last.
 
Tagrineth said:
I'm level 68 =p 2 levels away from needing a hat.
65 or 68, it's still true that:

1 - You are asking a bunch of strangers to come do a fight for you so that you can leech an item you can't even equip yet.

2 - You haven't ever been to a HKTK fight, so you don't know what to expect. You are trying to lead a run despite this. It's obvious how much research you've done on the fight by your post about taking AoE damage. (you won't take any AoE damage if people do their job, and you know wtf is going on)

3 - You realize that you will be virtually useless for this fight, yet you want yourself and other useless/easily replaced players to get ultimate high first dibs priority on the drop over the people that you need for the fight, just because you'll use it for 3 levels of exp. This is a single run, and anyone that doesn't get their hat on this fight won't be able to count on the people they helped out on this run to help them with their run. They would likely respond "wtf you're a mage, you don't need a hat."
 
alanon said:
I am a Blm

Melee need > Mage ned when it comes to Ohat. End of story.

If you need more ACC than snipers and life belt when skilling up a wep, you are skilling off of the wrong mobs.

im surpise no one has challange your post so I will.

lets see on 1 hand we have spending 2 mil onw 2 rings, and nother 100k on belt or get eyes and get hat for free.

also you are useing 1 slot instead of 3. and even more for rdm a wolf belt and str ring go with ohat go better then the other 3 and some other hat
 
passions said:
as far as my leaving you "blessed" LS keirto or whatever, yeah that pissed me off that i was there to get that paper you knew i was there for the paper i lotted like everyone else yet you all jumped my ass because i got it.

There was someone there who was level 50 and in greater need for the item, so your THF had no business lotting it. Papyrus for a 20-something or 30-something THF? That's little more than a novelty item. I wasn't even the LS at the time, but I was helping out by wandering off and soloing Liches on my own, and eventually duoing them with Numa. I would have gotten you one eventually, though I would have probably told you to at least level into the 40s first. That was a long night for everyone.

passions said:
See your just full of shit, sad that you have to hold grudes for things that shouldn't of even developed. but whatever thats yours and your rude ls's choice. few nice people, a lot of assholes you being one of them.

Choose your words carefully when it comes to a LS I'm a member of.
 
Neyla said:
Choose your words carefully when it comes to a LS I'm a member of.
Neyla said:
few nice people, a lot of assholes
I think i did. me and Deeadra were there getting our papers, we had gotten clay earlier that night and were going out to get paper. Someone in LS needed it as well so we made an Allience to get it. First, if you all were so UBER lvl's you'd of know that alliences hurt drops. Second, Where was the thf 2? I knew why passions was going, they knew it and maybe they just don't want to admit it. WTF else would i of brought her and had her in the zone? Why would i of brought deeadra if i wasn't helping someone else? don't believe me I HAVE A PICTURE OF THAT NIGHT!
Choose your words carfully neyla, and read mine a little better. Maybe everyone needs a reading leason, since no one can understand a post, party or linkshell chat.
BTW kat, i'll bash on that shell all i want. i left it be when they went after me like i was fucking plage when i didn't do anything wrong. I was doing exactly like some of the other members of that shell, yet they decided to single me out. They didn't like it that it was a social shell for me, and i was gonna change for end-game events. yet, you, neyla, numa, gation, pick, mystie, i could go on ALL participate in events that ARN'T controlled by Keiarto and have to change shells. Two faced? i think so. As i said, Some nice people a lot of assholes and that's mainly the leaders.
 
passions said:
BTW kat, i'll bash on that shell all i want. i left it be when they went after me like i was fucking plage when i didn't do anything wrong. I was doing exactly like some of the other members of that shell, yet they decided to single me out. They didn't like it that it was a social shell for me, and i was gonna change for end-game events. yet, you, neyla, numa, gation, pick, mystie, i could go on ALL participate in events that ARN'T controlled by Keiarto and have to change shells. Two faced? i think so. As i said, Some nice people a lot of assholes and that's mainly the leaders.

I don't quite understand this, so if I'm reading this wrong and not answering accordingly, sorry bout that.

My take on this is that you're saying Keitaro members were upset with you for changing to a different endgame shell from theirs. Sorry to say, but from you sig you don't even one job high enough to be in an endgame shell. So I don't get it.

When I started in Keitaro, Laur and I were the highest members in the LS. As a matter of fact, I was the first person from Keitaro to hit level 75. I had no other choice but to go to a HL shell at that time for my endgame needs. It was a very hard decision for me and I chatted with Kal in-depth about what to do. He totally understood my dilemna and basically said good luck and I'll be a part of the Keitaro family always. I have tried to never let the members down, and whenever they've needed me I've been there for them. That really doesn't matter though. I'm just giving you some background. Furthermore, Keitaro does not make you wear "just" their shell. They never have.

Keitaro doesn't have enough high level members to this day to have an God's shell. They put Keitaro Gods on hold 'til a later date. They were going to try recruiting for the Gods shell, but decided against it. They would rather have a family atmosphere like they have now rather than a bunch of greedy members fighting over who gets what when.

If you look in the recruitment thread here on the boards Nalia even says it's for the older or more responsible people who play FFXI. They do not want drama. Mebbe you were causing too much drama. Don't know what else to tell ya. Matter of fact, here's the link:

http://qcdn.org/showthread.php?t=16936&page=5http://qcdn.org/showthread.php?t=16936&page=5

What I do know, is if that Ancient Papyrus was for another member and you lotted on it as a level 20, bottom line it was a damn shitty thing to do. It's definitely along the lines of the title of this thread.
 
Kat said:
Sorry to say, but from you sig you don't even one job high enough to be in an endgame shell. So I don't get it.

Sorry, my bad. You do have blm to lvl 75. You've gotten there since you left Keitaro though. I looked in the recruitment board there, and in October you didn't have a job high enough level for end game.
 
Not gonna touch a lot of this....
...But regarding the "who deserves an OH, who doesn't"..no one -deserves- it more than another job. Everyones gonna farm the same mobs or toss out the same gil for a cluster. Everyone who goes to a run is gonna do some job (granted, the tanks have a rough time and the stunners are stressed to time properly)..it all boils down to who'd use it the most, and in the most effecient manner. Yes, If a RNG is almost 70 (or even 70+) I think they should get an OH before most other jobs. Same with alot of melees...but I don't think mages "don't ever need an OH".

Just because mages don't melee in parties doesn't mean they never, ever melee. If they hafto wait a few runs to get the "more needing" people an OH, fair enough, but giving them a flat-out thumbs down is just unfair..I mean if they went on a few runs and did their job well, don't they deserve something out of it too? Even more confusing that alot of people let PLD get OH (10acc > 20+ def and vit and enmity in parties?) but object to mages getting it..oh well though, some things I won't ever understand.
 
And just because I know someones gonna point out that technical contradiction I gave..I do think RNG and some jobs could all-around use it more often (i.e. benefit more from it), and it would help them more than mages and such...but they don't -deserve it more-. If that makes any sense..
 
no kat, your not reading right. You can't read that i'm a 75 blm, you can't read that i'm a 66rdm you can't READ obviously. Maybe to you that was a early time to get it (BTW i wasn't 20 mkay THANKS), but i get my shit done early unlike these dumbasses that wait untill the day they NEED the item the go get it then bitch because someone's taking time away from lvling to get the same shit done. I was going to get it for myself I didn't need an Allience of 18 fucking people to kill a monster that was soloable, you didn't NEED 18 to get it for the other guy either. The biggest mistake to farming that was the huge ALLIENCE. but that was in july and i was 50 in augest.

You say i start drama? I might of posted a new "topic" on the threads about people that needed sky and wanting to get it, what i didn't do was go in there Bitching at others because there sky shell was a different shell then ketaro THATS what happend. maybe you didn't read nalia's post because that topic was deleted along with my user name.

You leaders who i tried talking to about it basically cussed me out and said to GFTO!! WOW and yet you support them like there fucking GODS.

That night was 6 fucking months ago, Yeah i was there from start to finish with the assumpion of if my lots higher i'll get it, i've got just as fair of a chance. Well, that's to bad that NO ONE said a damn word as to why THEY were inviting a 24thf to a 18 person allience for the PAPER? Seriously THINK ABOUT THAT. No Drama? AKA Don't DO a single damn thing we don't like or your GONE. I never ONCE started a fight, they did. It's not that hard to have a conversation with someone to understand something w/out bitching them out.

Your going after me for bringing my other character to that place that night, yet your not questioning them for inviting her? Funny my friend dee didn't have a problem with it, what would they of been saying it if she'd gotten it? Oh i can't belive we helped that bitch we kicked her from the shell now she's STEALING FROM US. Get over yourselves seriously. You picked your side kat, and don't change it they might come after you next for being a TRADER!!

And as far as the same thing of OHat and Paper? Hmmm. Paper is solo able, OHat isn't. You all just bitch because i like to get my shit done early, so that in 1 month when i'm 70 i dont have to go OH SHIT well guess i'll play gimp untill i get one like most of these people.
No i've gone out there done my runs, i'm still a contributor to the allience yet I'm a FUCKING GREEEDY WHORE??? I put in the help, i don't see why i should have any less oportunity to get a Hat then any melee that is still fucking usless at 65-68 when ever the fuck they decide to go and leach for a hat.

Call me greedy? THAT IS FUCKING GREEDY not someone that's EARNED a ohat. Comprehend that, then you'll see where i'm coming from MAYBE!
 
Kat said:
in October you didn't have a job high enough level for end game.

any mage job 65+ is welcome to endgame
i was 65rdm then, stoped lvling and went blm because it got old. but i still got flipped on because i was starting to talk endgame OH NOES
 
passions said:
no kat, your not reading right. You can't read that i'm a 75 blm, you can't read that i'm a 66rdm you can't READ obviously. Maybe to you that was a early time to get it (BTW i wasn't 20 mkay THANKS), but i get my shit done early unlike these dumbasses that wait untill the day they NEED the item the go get it then bitch because someone's taking time away from lvling to get the same shit done. I was going to get it for myself I didn't need an Allience of 18 fucking people to kill a monster that was soloable, you didn't NEED 18 to get it for the other guy either. The biggest mistake to farming that was the huge ALLIENCE. but that was in july and i was 50 in augest.

Kat said:
Sorry, my bad. You do have blm to lvl 75. You've gotten there since you left Keitaro though. I looked in the recruitment board there, and in October you didn't have a job high enough level for end game.

Numa said:
Its not like you were even helping out at the time - We were all much higher level than even pandorda (who you were playing) as solely a melee rdm/nin (lvl 40ish) You were also always off lvling and never helped w events.

passions said:
You say i start drama? I might of posted a new "topic" on the threads about people that needed sky and wanting to get it, what i didn't do was go in there Bitching at others because there sky shell was a different shell then ketaro THATS what happend. maybe you didn't read nalia's post because that topic was deleted along with my user name.

Kat said:
If you look in the recruitment thread here on the boards Nalia even says it's for the older or more responsible people who play FFXI. They do not want drama. Mebbe you were causing too much drama. Don't know what else to tell ya. Matter of fact, here's the link:

http://qcdn.org/showthread.php?t=16936&page=5http://qcdn.org/showthread.php?t=16936&page=5

You leaders who i tried talking to about it basically cussed me out and said to GFTO!! WOW and yet you support them like there fucking GODS.

That night was 6 fucking months ago, Yeah i was there from start to finish with the assumpion of if my lots higher i'll get it, i've got just as fair of a chance. Well, that's to bad that NO ONE said a damn word as to why THEY were inviting a 24thf to a 18 person allience for the PAPER? Seriously THINK ABOUT THAT. No Drama? AKA Don't DO a single damn thing we don't like or your GONE. I never ONCE started a fight, they did. It's not that hard to have a conversation with someone to understand something w/out bitching them out.

Numa said:
One of the people in the LS had just capped out 50 and badly NEEDED a piece of Papyrus for Genkai 1 to break the cap. So @ 20 of us took our sunday night to farm it. took several hours. You parked your 20 thf at the door and told us it would help the drop rate. Whatever, not how it works but We are pretty kind to low lvls in the LS. When We finally got the drop everyone passed but the BST we were getting these for, and suddenly Passions lots and snagged it from the person who NEEDED it and who everyone was getting this for. crappy part is Passions still hasnt broken the 51 barrier over five months later months later. You really needed it for your thf :p

So basically you stole it.



this whole game is all about Karma.
If you truly help people, youll make friends, and if you need something later on, theyll be there to help you whenever you need it. Threatening people and the "I want it now approach" might work short-term, but wont get you anywhere in FFXI.


You dissappeared after that

I'll basically let the above speak for itself. As far as the level of your thf, yah that's a big damn difference bein' lvl 24 vs. lvl 20. Especially when you don't need the paper for a minimum of another 26 levels. Actually almost 27 cuz we all know you can be 1 tnl of lvl 51. Hmmmm ...
 
sad that you have to quote lies. if i was a 40rdm/nin hmmm wouldn't i of been getting the paper for Pandorda? pretty sure i would of.

Also, i was always out lvling during events? WHA, ok FIRST you guys did events while i was at work, so how could i be lvling if i was working? what was the big argument about them putting a hold on garrisons because people like NUMA and others were late and missing it because they were busy doing sky?

Why do you need full af before you lvl warrior? sound pretty selfish for doing that i must say. i think we should help all the warriors that need it NOW before you get it, you can wait kat go lvl warrior some more befor worring about af.

That's what you sound like >.<

whatever kat, your like yelling at a brick wall. you'll think what you want no matter what i say, you'll ignor the facts because it persuades you differently. in the end this is about a hat that i got DENIED for either character One that CAN wear it now, but the OP didn't want me to have the hat because i was a mage NUFF SAID they are in no way a like GOT IT!
 
Firstly, I am getting all of Warrior AF on my own. I do believe what I do with my own time ingame is mine to choose with as I please don't you think? Secondly, my Warrior is lvl 50. I can start wearing the first piece of AF armour that I've gotten on my own at level 52. That was a really silly comeback dude. You're definitely runnin' out of ammo there.

Lastly, the title of the thread is:

Passions the greedy whore>.>

Numa was just pointing out other instances where this has been true.
 
ok kat, i'm running out of ammo because you keep ignoring what i'm saying.

lets take this example then of another member in your ls. Sad that i have to include her because she's a nice person and doesn't belong here but i'm going to

Kyrial SKY=O
is she greedy for having sky early? there's nothing she can do there or well could do there when she got it, yet she still went on the runs with her thf?

your going to solo your af3 fight?
I think in the 4hrs or whatever someone could of said something about my thf being there, and i'm pretty sure i wouldn't of lied and said it was for thf 1 only. No i had her there for the paper, and no one complained untill they all wanted to give up which is utter bullshit. my friend dee didn't get her's we got that a different night so WAA again. my first paper wasn't dropped on my first night either. took me 3 nights and more then 1 death to get it ask torque about that.
All of the sudden people getting things done early is being a greedy whore. think what you want, maybe i wont come for you to get a whm hauby next time, and the whms that weren't 75 shouldn't of been there trying to pop it either. i think your a greedy whore because after 2 failed attempts you didn't want to risk your lantern, but i sure ass hell gave it my all for something that wasn't for me. my whm was there didn't see me trying to pop it and get myself one. {hmmm} no that would of gotten me the GREEEDY WHORE comment i'm sure :wacko:
 
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