Pere spews more nonsense

[vang]

Except that in every single one of my posts I stated that they should be paid for their services. I love how you think you're in the same class as the people who buy from me. You're not even close to being on their level. I can buy your products on the AH, the NQ and the HQ. You couldn't hope to deal with me. It would break you in half. Don't blame me that you're too poor to afford what I have to offer (which sells out every day that I've offered,) that you can't afford your own materials so you leech off others bringing them to you, and that you're incapable of anything more than recognizing my name and then blindly hitting the reply button at me no matter what I really say.
*cough*
*spit*
Done, kiddo.

Peregrine I am pretty sure Decidence could buy the gear off of your back and *cough* *spit* it out right in front of you without breaking a sweat...

Seems like the richer they are the more you call them beggars and peasants or whatever. Sorry not everyone makes gil the "Legitimate Peregrine way".

If you're a crafter or Nm camper you are a beggar, the only way you can make "honest" gil is farming like the grunts or dynamis runs then right?

Sweeeeet.

 

[CubsWoo]

Well, if you were commissioning a 100+3 bonecrafter to make a Harness +1 you'd be throwing away your gil. But anyway...

My last commissioned Togi synth went like this:

Fail: Obviously no fee and return of all lost materials

NQ: 200k fee. Considering a NQ Togi is 11 million, I actually feel a sub-2% tip is low, but I know that's about the going rate for that synth so I don't complain. It's really a steal since materials -> NQ can be flipped for a 3-3.5 million profit right now, but I digress.

HQ: 15 million tip, or it gets sold, NQ Togi is made from the profit and 5 million gil is given to the material provider. I have at least one anonymous buyer looking for a -1 Togi and would be more than willing to pay 50 million for it on the spot.

Do I think that's fair? Absolutely. If you don't like the way I do my synths, I know there are plenty of other crafters that can make 'em for you just as well. Your few hundred k not falling into my hands because you'd rather stand to profit 40 million from my work sure as hell isn't going to break me.

 

[Peregrine]

Peregrine I am pretty sure Decidence could buy the gear off of your back and *cough* *spit* it out right in front of you without breaking a sweat...

Seems like the richer they are the more you call them beggars and peasants or whatever. Sorry not everyone makes gil the "Legitimate Peregrine way".

If you're a crafter or Nm camper you are a beggar, the only way you can make "honest" gil is farming like the grunts or dynamis runs then right?

Sweeeeet.

Decidence couldn't touch my bazaar without going broke, and neither could you. You saw it out in battalia. lol100million. Take that change elsewhere. My bazaar is 1st class onry.

TL95 mongers who think they're first class are on their way out. Average Joe is catching up, and you can hear him. And you don't like it.

 

[Bajaratt]

Decidence couldn't touch my bazaar without going broke, and neither could you. You saw it out in battalia. lol100million. Take that change elsewhere. My bazaar is 1st class onry.

TL95 mongers who think they're first class are on their way out. Average Joe is catching up, and you can hear him. And you don't like it.

Having things in your bazaar for 99,999,999 makes you first class? Who knew that carrying around a Seal of Genbu was such a sign of importance.

 

[Peregrine]

Having things in your bazaar for 99,999,999 makes you first class? Who knew that carrying around a Seal of Genbu made you first class.

Mind filling in lil baj for me? I have things to do.

 

[Bajaratt]

In the quote, you say you've got 100 mil in your bazaar, and that your bazaar is first class. I technically have several hundred million counting all the items going for 99,999,999; so I guess mine's first class too.

 

[Ezikiel]

Decidence couldn't touch my bazaar without going broke, and neither could you. You saw it out in battalia. lol100million. Take that change elsewhere. My bazaar is 1st class onry.

TL95 mongers who think they're first class are on their way out. Average Joe is catching up, and you can hear him. And you don't like it.

Heh.. you sell Dynamis currency for your shell to distribute, and suddenly its all yours?

All about you pere.. always all about you.

So If I starte bazaaring all the dynamis currency from the shell, and all the drops from Tiamat, Vrtra, Fafnir for my LS, I guess that means Me>You?

You're logic amazes me Pere.
Suddenly you are the shit cause you are handling OTHER PEOPLES MONEY.

 

[decidence]

Peregrine Im sure my networth would make you even more depressed then you currently lead on to be.

 

[Peregrine]

Peregrine Im sure my networth would make you even more depressed then you currently lead on to be.

I lead a dynamis shell of 50-max attendance twice a week. Your net worth is nothing compared to me. I can hand 60 people 60k on any given wednesday and think nothing of it. You're a what...hack NM hunter that Square retired and a high level crafter just like a hundred other mules of the server. No, decidence, if you tried to make transactions with me, your net worth would be zero within the month, and I could buy you within the month, and buy you again the next month. If the shell would let me. Which...let's be honest...who on earth would let me buy you?

 

[Peregrine]

Darn the topic is getting to be all about me again. Let's move back to the oldschool the-hq-is-all-mine crafter and why they have a countdown over their head.

 

[Ezikiel]

Heh.. you sell Dynamis currency for your shell to distribute, and suddenly its all yours?

All about you pere.. always all about you.

So If I starte bazaaring all the dynamis currency from the shell, and all the drops from Tiamat, Vrtra, Fafnir for my LS, I guess that means Me>You?

You're logic amazes me Pere.
Suddenly you are the shit cause you are handling OTHER PEOPLES MONEY.

Re-quoting to be sure you dont miss it this time.

 

[Peregrine]

I'm not denying it, but stop begging for attention from me. I see it. I just don't acknowledge that you count. I can't help it that my opinion is the most important one in the thread, capable of turning all eyes on me in less than a hat trick of posts.

I'm just letting you all know that your L98 craft is slipping. You're getting more common as the days roll on, and that weight you used to think you had where you were a top-tier NA crafter is going to be gone soon. What are you going to do when everyone has 98 cloth? JP goldsmithers would ruin every last one of you if you tried to convert. But they sure do like my coins.

 

[CubsWoo]

Heh.. you sell Dynamis currency for your shell to distribute, and suddenly its all yours?

All about you pere.. always all about you.

So If I starte bazaaring all the dynamis currency from the shell, and all the drops from Tiamat, Vrtra, Fafnir for my LS, I guess that means Me>You?

You're logic amazes me Pere.
Suddenly you are the shit cause you are handling OTHER PEOPLES MONEY.

I think this needs to be quoted again.

So you're saying your Dynamis runs net you less than 4 million a week, divvied out to 60 people? It takes 60 people 6+ hours a week to make 4 million gil?

360+ man-hours. For under 4 million gil. If that's what you make every week in Dynamis, I'm sure a dedicated 100 cook, let alone any other craft, would be able to keep pace with that gil influx without much trouble.

Then again, I don't make 10-20k/hour as part of a Dynamis profit shell.

EDIT: And you fail to recognize that Dynamis currency is slipping too. I've earned Dynamis currency on a job that isn't even qualified to enter the instances. People are getting 100 coins with skills that don't require Dynamis at all. And Square has said that relic help is on the way. In two months, the currency may be coming from yet another, easier source. Or the JPs may get their Relics and stop buying. Either way, what happens when that sweet 40k plum shrivels back down to 10k (or less) and the influx is barely enough to cover entry fees? How can you convince people to do Dynamis for profit when there isn't any to be had?

 

[Valoran]

Can one of the CC mods split this to the flameboard where half of it belongs?

A debate -- even a heated one -- is one thing. Telling off a specific player belongs on the flameboard.

 

[Ezikiel]

I'm not denying it, but stop begging for attention from me.

I'm sorry what?

My post wasnt begging for attention. I was just making you look like an ass, like usual

 

[Peregrine]

Oh coins aren't slipping. Reread the interview, because you misunderstand. They're still a good 25k above what any QCDN poster is willing to think they deserve them for. No price in the history of the game has gone down when the JP stopped buying. You all are right behind them months later thinking you're top dog paying top prices. That is, unless you finally give up and admit that there are no 1st class players on the forum. Then maybe I'll lower the prices when things die down.

Net worth, folks. You think you're worth more than I am because you have a L98 CC and 80 million in gil? Hate to burst your bubble, but I'm way past needing any form of gil. What I do is generate more cashflow and assets in a week than half of you put together. It's not 4 million a week. It's 4 million a BASTOK. On a bad day. Could they do it without me? Probably. I'm just the founder, I'm not the machine that I built. But it operates on a business model, and if it's a business, no matter how much I try it's going to be hard to separate me from what I do and what I own. What I own is more than anything you could ever craft. I deal in rare/ex. I deal in wins. I deal in accomplishment by the dozens at a time. And when I HAVE to deal in gil on behalf of others, I talk to the REAL first class of the game, not a beggar who thinks they're **** asking 5-10k for an ancient coin.

You can wave the wad of cash under your mattress all you want. I handed out 10 relic armors last week and generated around 7 million gil while handing out roughly 30 separate dynamis clearance O's.

What did YOU do this week?

 

[Peregrine]

Can one of the CC mods split this to the flameboard where half of it belongs?

A debate -- even a heated one -- is one thing. Telling off a specific player belongs on the flameboard.

Fair enough. But yet again I didn't post first, and I'm sure I won't post last. Topic's all yours.

 

[Skaw]

Net worth, folks. You think you're worth more than I am because you have a L98 CC and 80 million in gil? Hate to burst your bubble, but I'm way past needing any form of gil.

Cause evasion torques split between 6 people sure do generate a ton of gil!

I'm also certain you have many areas in your equipment cycles that can use updating, just from your general attitude towards others that do update their gear.

No ones beyond needing any form of gil. If you are, level another job. Upgrade your level capped equipment. I could have 30 million too, but then I wouldn't be so badassly equipped.

 

[Nasya]

Suddenly you are the shit cause you are handling OTHER PEOPLES MONEY.

LOL... lets see more on this vain.

Net worth, folks. You think you're worth more than I am because you have a L98 CC and 80 million in gil? Hate to burst your bubble, but I'm way past needing any form of gil. What I do is generate more cashflow and assets in a week than half of you put together. It's not 4 million a week. It's 4 million a BASTOK. On a bad day. Could they do it without me? Probably. I'm just the founder, I'm not the machine that I built. But it operates on a business model, and if it's a business, no matter how much I try it's going to be hard to separate me from what I do and what I own. What I own is more than anything you could ever craft. I deal in rare/ex. I deal in wins. I deal in accomplishment by the dozens at a time. And when I HAVE to deal in gil on behalf of others, I talk to the REAL first class of the game, not a beggar who thinks they're **** asking 5-10k for an ancient coin.

ok... so your argument now is that you are better than everyone else because you own a dynamis shell that runs twice a week... and that you sell stuff for them makes your net worth greater than other peoples? Oh, and that said shell gets your members ra/ex gear. Lastly, all of this makes you first class (wow you’re a fucking elitist), and that no one else on these boards can touch you? That no body could hold a candle to your net worth? I beg to differ.

I’ve owned and run my shell for over a year and a half now. We have an associated Dynamis shell, which while separate from Kaizen certainly has a pretty strong connection. I deal in ra/ex, I deal in multiple wins a day vs your two a week, I deal in sellable items that are so rare no one would ever think to treat them as anything but ra/ex, and of course, I also deal in gil. You make 8mil in a week? I make, for my LS, 60mil+ in one of our weekly fights. You got 10AF this week? We got a number of our members their first AF+1s this week, one of our bards a priceless item from Vrtra, killed Tiamat, Nidhogg, fafnir a few times... and two of those fights gave us over 200mil... that is what i did this week.

Loveless got three of their dynamis members some Northlands AF, and a 100c along with the singles. They also got a number of their newer members access to Xarcbard. No, I am not a leader of loveless so perhaps I do not have a right to feel proud of their accomplishments, but the leaders of it are part of my leading team in Kaizen, and I am proud that they work together as well as they do in all their endeavors... and I do feel responsible for bringing them together.

There are two primary differences between you and I though Peregrine, the first is that I recognize that while I may have started the machine as you call it, it is through all the work of my members that it runs... what we make is not MINE, it doesn’t add to MY NETWORTH... it is OURS, just like the currency you are selling on other peoples behalf is THEIRS. Secondly, I’m not the little attention whore that you are. I don’t go out of my way, describing my shells accomplishments just to make me feel better than those who dislike me.

Decidence couldn't touch my bazaar without going broke, and neither could you. You saw it out in battalia. lol100million. Take that change elsewhere. My bazaar is 1st class onry.

TL95 mongers who think they're first class are on their way out. Average Joe is catching up, and you can hear him. And you don't like it.

I know I am not the first to say this, and I doubt I will be the last... but your hypocrisy is like no one else’s I have ever encountered. Your anti-elitist attitude does not match up with "My bazaar is 1st class onry" and “Take that change elsewhere”. There are numerous other quotes by you that fail to pair up with what you claim to believe.... Most of them have been picked out by others though, I’m not going to waste anyone’s time here by bringing them back up.

You know, that screen shot that ezikiel posted makes me laugh every time I see it.... especially with your recent “everyone is my fan boy” kick, where people are allegedly scrambling for your attention at every opportunity they have.... seems as though that is exactly what you want. A picture truly is worth a thousand words at times. You really do need to come off your high horse, I bet you would be a very valuable asset to the community if you would. Now for a few endnotes.

To the people who frequent this board for information on crafting, I am sorry for further propagating this flame.

 

[Skaw]

omg Nasya shut up fanboy.