Pet pulling questions (smn and bst)

[K. Ishitar]

I used to do this frequently on smn(pull hatelessy) without trouble with links but I'm having trouble pulling, I was told that once my avatar or charmed/jug disappears, the original mob can re-link with the other mobs again ontw twoards me.

It could be with how they aggro? which makes it easier to link(ie mobs facing same direction that aggro to sight will aggro when attacked, sound will always aggro nearby)

Maybe it was pure luck that I never had a link when i first started pulling with pets(albeit a long time ago) but now a link or two is to be expected if i make sure that the pathway is clear or when I send my pet after the mob.

also for bst, links and the pet not focusing on the original target, keep using assault on the original but the pet loses focus after another swipe from the link.

help/suggestions on how to pull with pets? thanks

 

[Mishaela]

When you send a pet onto a monster, any mobs you want to avoid linking must link onto the pet BEFORE it dies, that way the hate is on the pet. By having the mobs linking onto you pet causes them to have a ~5s grace period of non-agro while the original mob you engaged charges towards you. If you didn't link anything you're hoping to avoid before your pet died, they'll definitely link when the mob comes for you.

If you managed to link them, your pet dies, and somehow they re-link, you may want to instead pull one mob then run far enough so that your pet's HP bar vanishes, then do Heel, then wait a few seconds then do Leave. This should pull any linked mobs out of their spawn range so they'll depop (and obviously not have any chance of re-linking) upon deagro, and you'll still retain agro/claim on the original pulled mob to work with.

In regards to the pet changing targets on links - that's just how mob enmity works. Really stupid that it does that with charmed pets but there's absolutely no way to get around it. =/

 

[Halifirien]

If your charmed pet starts attacking the link, just focus it on the original prey. When the prey dies, use Leave and the link will despawn (or stop attacking). At least, I think that's what you're asking. It was hard to find a question in your post.

 

[Zaltana]

i know nothing about how it works for BST's but avatar hate is like this.

if an avatar attacks a mobs and other's link with it. the linked mobs are only focused on the avatar. this allows you to use AoE moves with them safely. you can thunderspark your crab in the boyhada tree and hit every other mob around you. but as long as the crab was the main target once ramuh is gone the other mobs will stop attacking. you mess up and hit one of the rabbits or mandies you're screwed.

what ever your avatar directly attacks gets hate for you and your pet. but things that link against your pet are only attacking your pet. as far as they are concerned you arent even there.

 

[K. Ishitar]

that makes sense thanks guys forgot to ask

With mimics its possible for bst(and smn?) to solo specific areas like the Golden Salvage and the trials and tribulations.

For soloing these types of BC

Bst: send pet after the chest then heel (with chest attacking pet) then run out of range (pet hp not visible) then leave?

Smn: AA with Garuda and send her in to pop chest run out of range then dismiss?

For smn I tried soloing T&T with the above but I just waited for garuda to die then got drawn in...do I need to dismiss to make the mimic depop?

 

[Halifirien]

You can't despawn creatures in BCNMs. That only works with normal mobs.

 

[Negorissimo]

that makes sense thanks guys forgot to ask

With mimics its possible for bst(and smn?) to solo specific areas like the Golden Salvage and the trials and tribulations.

For soloing these types of BC

Bst: send pet after the chest then heel (with chest attacking pet) then run out of range (pet hp not visible) then leave?

Smn: AA with Garuda and send her in to pop chest run out of range then dismiss?

For smn I tried soloing T&T with the above but I just waited for garuda to die then got drawn in...do I need to dismiss to make the mimic depop?

If you despawn the avatar you will get the same result. Drawn in sucks...

 

[Mishaela]

You used to be able to do that with Golden Salvage, but it's patched last I heard.

 

[Myrrh]

New trick with Golden Salvage is to either be a high lvl Smn or have it subbed. Summon Garuda and AA. Pop a chest and run. Garuda should last long enough for you to get to 50'. If you do then the Mimic becomes a chest again. I've tried this before and it worked.

 

[Mishaela]

New trick with Golden Salvage is to either be a high lvl Smn or have it subbed. Summon Garuda and AA. Pop a chest and run. Garuda should last long enough for you to get to 50'. If you do then the Mimic becomes a chest again. I've tried this before and it worked.

As I said, I'm pretty sure they patched that. (and you definitely don't need Garuda + AA to run far enough on SMN main...)

Unless they only patched the way you can tell if the chests a Mimic or not without patching them? Though I was pretty sure both of these have been fixed for a while now.

 

[Myrrh]

I didn't mean to say that Smn main needed Garuda + AA.