Phraust - From the Inside

I broke no deal when I brought my friend along. I was going to buy P out of a PCC (if we got it) for 3.5mil, and then split the remainder with my friend. Not breaking the deal in any way. In fact, it benefitted P, since it meant a greater chance at a claim, for the same amount of cash. The 1mil thing came about much later, when I got a PCC without P's help, and in the excitement of getting it I didn't think things through clearly and told P I might be able to spare him some gil.

The reasons you listed were reasons that I wasn't online. I was getting no work done when I was talking on mIRC with P and Ezi all day, I stopped logging on FF for a little bit because of family troubles, and I don't remember saying I had connection issues in reference to why I wasn't online. I didn't stop logging onto FF because of this, as I've been on quite a lot lately, just not in the LS, which is because of this.

This whole thing erupted into much more than I intended, because in the heat of the moment I said more than I had intended to. I sincerely regret not talking to him about the deal before all this happened, which I now know I should have.

Because a couple people have told me things along the lines of 'Phraust said you screwed him over', I finally posted this. I'm rather surprised that more wasn't said in the LS that I wasn't aware of, but it means that I got paranoid when those couple of people talked to me, and I guess there was no need to clear my name after all. Meaning I was very in the wrong to post this, and I'm sorry that I did. :?
 
TiyaKelth said:
Because a couple people have told me things along the lines of 'Phraust said you screwed him over', I finally posted this. I'm rather surprised that more wasn't said in the LS that I wasn't aware of, but it means that I got paranoid when those couple of people talked to me, and I guess there was no need to clear my name after all. Meaning I was very in the wrong to post this, and I'm sorry that I did. :?
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The onyl thing that I have seen in the LS lately with your Name on it is pretty much:

"Haven't seen Tiya for a while. =/"
"I saw his mule the other day."

That's about the extent of your name comming up over LS chatter. Not really anything else to say actually.

In reguards to the deal. Do understant that that was simply from the best of MY recollection from a few months ago. Not notated occurences I have jotted down or anything like that. ^^;
 
I don't really know what to say... I'm regretting posting this whole thing, as I really thought that you were knowingly outright lying to me, and about me.

I don't think you need to clear your name... Everyone makes mistakes (such as me posting this), and I'm pretty sure one bad incident recorded of you in the midst of so many good ones isn't going to make much of an impact, which is, I believe, a large part of the reason I lashed out so harshly. I knew that the community was behind you.

I'm sorry that I brought it to this. :?
 
Phraust said:
One last thing...

Totally off topic.

I am really close to quitting the game because of shit like this...
Tired of getting stabbed in the back, betrayed, and then getting punnished for trusting people.

You ever wonder why I help people so much in game?
Because it's so fucking rare that somone would help me.
I don't want to be like those people.
Judge me.
Just fucking do it.
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*cough* emo *cough*
 
Now for the makeup sex. :wink:



Really though...I hope the friendship between you two takes a turn for the better, and hopefully heals rather well. It's be such a damn shame for something that seems to have been rather good, to go tarnished just because of some damn stupid item and communication failure.. (Though yes, in a way I kindof hate you all, cause I'm 0/3 Argus.. >( but that's a different story =P )

Good luck to y'both.
 
I'll tell you guys a little story, since unfortunately it seems like 90% of the problems among friends arise from lack of communication. Mostly, there are problems when people are too proud to voice their thoughts of concerns. You all seem like generally good people so it really is a shame.

After I finished my BLM, there was some question as to what it is I'd do next in terms of leveling. I had chosen Paladin as my next job. Now, my LS consisted at the time of myself and several members of a partial static I used to have, one of them being my old static Paladin.
I was excited about the job, and I was excited also about doing something no one else had tried. This was before Tarutaru paladin had been particulary popular and I was the first NA to make a run for 70+ with it. I got some... resistance, from people who thought the combo wouldn't work.
Well I did a lot of experimentation, with the dark staff and earth staff and vermillion. With yag drinks and whatever, to try and see what my limitations and strengths were. I was enthuiastic. I talked about about it on the LS. I asked questions, posed theories, talked about things I learned worked.
And the paladin in my LS logged on less and less, little did I know why. In fact other LS members seemed to talk to me less. You see, I had offended him, talking about this and that, and I had I think let my ego get the better of my judgement.

But this was a problem that was so small and easily solved. The real problem was we never even talked about it. You see the real problem was all this time he had thought I was trying to be better than him he didn't realize the truth. That he was the reason in the first place I wanted to be a paladin.

You see, its seems like you guys are in the same situation. Generally good people who could easily work out their problems, just need to stop being polite and proud and talk over your differences, to understand where the other is coming from.
 
Firestreak said:
I'll tell you guys a little story, since unfortunately it seems like 90% of the problems among friends arise from lack of communication. Mostly, there are problems when people are too proud to voice their thoughts of concerns. You all seem like generally good people so it really is a shame.

After I finished my BLM, there was some question as to what it is I'd do next in terms of leveling. I had chosen Paladin as my next job. Now, my LS consisted at the time of myself and several members of a partial static I used to have, one of them being my old static Paladin.
I was excited about the job, and I was excited also about doing something no one else had tried. This was before Tarutaru paladin had been particulary popular and I was the first NA to make a run for 70+ with it. I got some... resistance, from people who thought the combo wouldn't work.
Well I did a lot of experimentation, with the dark staff and earth staff and vermillion. With yag drinks and whatever, to try and see what my limitations and strengths were. I was enthuiastic. I talked about about it on the LS. I asked questions, posed theories, talked about things I learned worked.
And the paladin in my LS logged on less and less, little did I know why. In fact other LS members seemed to talk to me less. You see, I had offended him, talking about this and that, and I had I think let my ego get the better of my judgement.

But this was a problem that was so small and easily solved. The real problem was we never even talked about it. You see the real problem was all this time he had thought I was trying to be better than him he didn't realize the truth. That he was the reason in the first place I wanted to be a paladin.

You see, its seems like you guys are in the same situation. Generally good people who could easily work out their problems, just need to stop being polite and proud and talk over your differences, to understand where the other is coming from.
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I agree w/ you 100% here fire. If there are problems its alwasy best to bring it up.
 
Firestreak said:
I'll tell you guys a little story, since unfortunately it seems like 90% of the problems among friends arise from lack of communication. Mostly, there are problems when people are too proud to voice their thoughts of concerns. You all seem like generally good people so it really is a shame.

After I finished my BLM, there was some question as to what it is I'd do next in terms of leveling. I had chosen Paladin as my next job. Now, my LS consisted at the time of myself and several members of a partial static I used to have, one of them being my old static Paladin.
I was excited about the job, and I was excited also about doing something no one else had tried. This was before Tarutaru paladin had been particulary popular and I was the first NA to make a run for 70+ with it. I got some... resistance, from people who thought the combo wouldn't work.
Well I did a lot of experimentation, with the dark staff and earth staff and vermillion. With yag drinks and whatever, to try and see what my limitations and strengths were. I was enthuiastic. I talked about about it on the LS. I asked questions, posed theories, talked about things I learned worked.
And the paladin in my LS logged on less and less, little did I know why. In fact other LS members seemed to talk to me less. You see, I had offended him, talking about this and that, and I had I think let my ego get the better of my judgement.

But this was a problem that was so small and easily solved. The real problem was we never even talked about it. You see the real problem was all this time he had thought I was trying to be better than him he didn't realize the truth. That he was the reason in the first place I wanted to be a paladin.

You see, its seems like you guys are in the same situation. Generally good people who could easily work out their problems, just need to stop being polite and proud and talk over your differences, to understand where the other is coming from.
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I agree with this whole heartedly. I've pretty much lost two friends on the game due to lack of communication. One was my former "fiance" who, due to a misunderstanding about an e-mail that never got sent (He thought he sent it and I was ignoring him, I thought he never sent it and was ignoring me...) that started a chain of events, ended up leaving the LS and the two of us barely speak to each other. It turns out, I never got the e-mail, he had sent it, but it never got to me. I can't help but wonder what would have happened if me or him just would have asked what was up instead of ignoring the problem. We would probably still be, at least, good friends. I still miss him.

The other came out of no where. It was another former ls member, and I began to notice he would talk to me less and less and less, and then not at all. I had no idea why, he never said. Eventually I just let it go and figured he just didn't want to talk to me anymore. A Month or so later I found out someone told him I was talking about him behind his back (So not true ><) and that's why he didn't want to talk to me. I heard this from a 3rd party though, me and him don't talk anymore. Wave to each other sometimes, you know, one of those awkward kinda "We used to be friends" waves. Again, gotta wonder what would have happened if one of us just would have asked what the deal was, you know?

Communication is so important in friendship. It's easier to run away from the problem, but you'll most likely end up losing a friend if you do
 
:lol: THank you for sharing this with us.Anyways,u kept denying that phraust and u have mules around the spot where argus spawns. right? i can post a link where u said u or phraust dont have mules there n i'm sure u'll start lying again. But too bad u cant edit the posts up there.And obviously Rinas [your mule that was in shikarmi for the past year or two] is a godamn voke ,just like phraust when hes at work.U guys can rip each other's nails off i dont fckin care but for some fckin sake dont fck the economy cuz i already see haubergeon's price rising every fckin day by like 100k, n i'm leveling goldsmithing soon so i guess i gotta wait till u two start cybering again or something.
Fuck u phraust and tiyakelth .
 
lol: THank you for sharing this with us.Anyways,u kept denying that phraust and u have mules around the spot where argus spawns. right? i can post a link where u said u or phraust dont have mules there n i'm sure u'll start lying again. But too bad u cant edit the posts up there.And obviously Rinas [your mule that was in shikarmi for the past year or two] is a godamn voke ,just like phraust when hes at work.U guys can rip each other's nails off i dont fckin care but for some fckin sake dont fck the economy cuz i already see haubergeon's price rising every fckin day by like 100k, n i'm leveling goldsmithing soon so i guess i gotta wait till u two start cybering again or something.
Fuck u phraust and tiyakelth . lol [female][hume]
 
Wolfskymoon, stop hijacking the thread and get out, please.
 
I too apologize for being involved here. It was completely wrong of me to bring up internal LS issues in a public forum. :oops:


I really hope things can be worked out, and we can all move forward. ^^;
 
I keep getting the feeling WSM will be the next one banned from QCDN... One of these days he'll try to hijack/flamebait the wrong thread, and all hell will break loose.
 
Huh?!

Wait a minute... Tiya just stepped away from a fight on the internet?? That's like seeing 50 Cent appologise for a gunfight!!!

Oh wait, that happened too this week.

Man, what's happening to the constants in this world...
 
If i get banned for expressing my opinions then mmm that means this board is not worth posting on anyway.Phraust lol u are calling me retared and ur whole life revolves around getting a damn peacock charm and selling it over and over n fckin the economy lol.
 
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