Place Holding NM's

[Rips]

I'll use an example...

Leaping Lizzie

I heard that all lizzies have to spawn, 10/10. And that useing widescan, the 5th lizzie down is the place holder. If u kill that placeholder, the Leaping lizzie may spawn in 5 mins at a 75% chance. Is this true? i made a friend who said that this was.

 

[metachronism]

I don't know about lizzie in particular, but there are NMs which have "fixed" placeholders. What that means is that it has a fixed location in the mob enumeration (*not* spawn location), which is reflected in wide scan.

The "all 10 lizards has to spawn" is not a prerequisite. That is merely to guarantee that the 5th on the list is actually #5 in the enumeration.

The thing about "75% chance if you kill the 5th one on the list after you let all spawn" is not true. There's a timer on (most) lottery NMs, and the NM will NOT spawn until that timer has expired since the last time of death.

 

[Blaine]

The thing about "75% chance if you kill the 5th one on the list after you let all spawn" is not true. There's a timer on (most) lottery NMs, and the NM will NOT spawn until that timer has expired since the last time of death.

true. and many NMs do have a place holder, such as the one that drops the O.Kote. theres always something a little diffrent about a placeholder from a diffrent mob, from being stronger then the average mobs to not having a locked walking pattern. there are so many diffrent options it gets confusing after a while...

 

[Tagrineth]

Leaping Lizzy has a strange window.. there are intervals where she can spawn, but every time she fails to spawn, the following interval is longer than the previous one, with the cap at about 3 hours (I can state as a fact that Leaping Lizzy will pop at exactly the 3 hour mark if she has not popped before then - it happened several times when the "account thief" Kagomei helped me camp the stupid lizard).

 

[ThSlayer]

yes its true what i told you =P

 

[Direwolf]

I have had Leaping lizzy pop 12 minutesish apart. The lizards in the zone have a 6 minute pop time. Eventualy a placeolder will pop, upon its death LL will pop 6 minutes latter. This is refered to as a lottery pop NM. You do not need to kill all the lizards, only the place holder. However you do not know which one is the placeholder... SO...

 

[Stouter]

That's because there are 2 leaping lizzies. If you look at wide scan when nobody is killing lizards there, you will see 3 sets of 5 lizards. The first set of 5 is one lizzie spawn, the 2nd set is the other, the 3rd set is just lizards. Both lizzies can't be up at the same time, although they are on their own seperate timers.

 

[Shaunessy]

I call BS... I was camping Mee Deggi the other day and the placeholder is deffinatly not the same as it was a year ago. I still got some Impact Knuckels out of the deal but PHs for the "big" NMs has deffinatly changed.

 

[Stouter]

I call BS... I was camping Mee Deggi the other day and the placeholder is deffinatly not the same as it was a year ago. I still got some Impact Knuckels out of the deal but PHs for the "big" NMs has deffinatly changed.

What are you calling BS on? Nobody said that the PH is the same that it's always been. They changed the spawn on the PH so it doesn't spawn on a tiny platform where the fastest voke gets claim. It has one PH, and that PH can spawn anywhere down around the platform, and if you're clever enough there's a couple ways to figure out which mob is the PH (besides watching what mobs the gilsellers kill)

 

[CmdrFly]

i made a friend

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