PLD subbing NIN?

Zerayla

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Not sure if this is the right area, but lately i've been seeing posts or videos of high lvl plds having nin sub when fighting HNMS etc.

I'm currently lvl 57, and hope to lvl and join a dynamis group or even an HNM group in the future but I want to make sure that I have proper equip, and can perform the job well.

Can anyexperienced pld's or other experienced players please let me know if its common for pld to sub nin? Or do they tend to sub war? I do have my nin unlocked, but haven't bothered to lvl it and now i'm starting to get worried that I may have to start on this soon.

Feedback is appreciated :)
 
Its situational, I don't see many plds subbing ninja but the situations are out there when you will need it.

Its just like any job, lvl your subs you never know what you'll need.
 
I've only heard of using the nin sub for the Wyrm fights. Aka. Tia/Vrtra. It's effective as hell if you can dual wield Durandals or a Joyeuse and a Durandal.
 
Can one still tank with nin sub? I haven't lvled it so i'm not too familiar with the abilities nin have, and though pld has a range of hate taking abilities i'd be a bit paranoid not having my voke @_@
 
you've still got a lot of hate tools that go along with paladin extra eminity gear and usually a thf doing TA damage on you for added hate.

unless your in a bcnm with only 2 other peeps then its all about your skill, hold hate off a heavy nuking blm = fun stuff ^^
 
PLD/NIN would be useful solo, during Ballista, or, under special circumstances, during parties.
I'd say PLD/MNK would actually work better, because Boost is about 50% power proportional to Provoke, and it has 15 second timer, so you're looking at nice, constant hate. Along with Flash, cure spells and things like that. Added to the extra VIT and HP Monk gives, as well as Dodge, and stuff like that.
But yeah, if there's no BLM or nuker in the party, PLD/NIN would work. You'd just have a lot harder time keeping hate, because you wouldn't cure yourself as much and no Provoke would kinda kill it.
 
thanks a bunch for the info, i'll probably end up lvling nin anyways "just in case".... i'll leave that until I absolutely have to though >_<
 
Yea like other people said PLD/NIN good for soloing

Mostly PLD At higher level doing Wyrm and other HNM do PLD/NIN because even if you're PLD/WAR and you'll get hit like 300-500 damages, and you still gonna die like a mage in exp pt lol, hate control is not really need it anymore during those, you got like 2-4 nin with war sub to back it up ^^

PLD/NIN - even don't have provoke, still have Flash + Cures ^^
 
PLD/NIN in HNM fights would still use sword and shield or earth staff. It's just there to avoid 3 hits every 37 seconds (utsu ni recast with haste) Utsu ichi would be damn hard to cast unless a blm someone landed stun on a wyrm. The reason you can keep hate is because smns are the main source of damage in these fights, and avatars hate is reset every time they're de-summoned.

Basically the only thing it's useful for is tiamat and jorm fights (vrtra's kited) and maybe if you get full attack setup and mainhand a company sword with joyeuse offhand in a warburn party. Probably wouldn't hold too good of hate.

I leveled nin sub so I could solo EPs/DCs easily. RDM sub with capped enhancing is probably even better though.
 
I still say RDM/NIN more better then PLD then come to tanking haha

Stoneskin-> Uts -> Buff? -> Haste -> etc -> repeat XD
 
And how would you keep hate? RDM do crap dmg with their little tiny swords and won't take damage so they can't cure for hate... no flash or 5min JAs like pld either. If you use big dmg spell you'll run out of mp.

And you forgot phalanx :P
 
Paladins have Negative evasion Dodge wont do a damn thing on mobs anything other than too weak.
 
lol come on guys at least thnk tries to give a valid answer.

pld/nin can sorta tank Hakutaku as well as a back up. get behind it, face away get SATA'd by a thf do some job abilities and a flash you got good hate to keep things running smooth.

what about pld/thf :p
he could SATA "vorpal blade" on the ninja tank :p uh where do i get this stuff {/sigh}
 
PLD/NIN with haste and a THF is just as good, shadows give hate and with haste you can keep them up forever AND Flash is almost 30, same as provoke with almost the same hate boost.
 
Fitzgerald said:
hey.. i go pld/nin all the time in exp PTs.. i hold hate no matter what.. all i gotta say is im the best fuckin pld youll ever see..lol
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make a video, i wanna see how you hold hate on that >.>
 
Fitzgerald said:
hey.. i go pld/nin all the time in exp PTs.. i hold hate no matter what.. all i gotta say is im the best fuckin pld youll ever see..lol
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maybe post 74, but its rare to see. i rarely party with pld's anyway unless you count farming as a party :biggrin:
 
Vandoura said:
I still say RDM/NIN more better then PLD then come to tanking haha
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in means of being able to not need any support from any other job other then THF maybe. RDM/NIN can't hold hate for shit they would have to have a thf TAing off them but there hate would never sustain that of a pld, although it could make tanking by a pld or a nin look like a joke that just depends on the hate control. Doen't do any good to be called the "tank" if the mob is running after the blm and you can't regain hate :spiteful:
 
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