POL NEWS : New Items Galore! (12/13/2006) AF3 ???

[Uzor]

Well...the first example that comes to mind is that "Lolebay" thread, started by blazn. In it, someone said "This account was stripped of sellable items" to which blazn retorted "Stage 5 relic shield, stage 4 relic weapon".

Sorry, that just makes no fucking sense. Defend that.

Why should I defend that? There's no reason defendign it. I'm not defendign it for what they say. I'm defendign them for when everyoen jumps down their throats for every little thing.

Hell, I've dissagreed with Delsus and Hellstorm myself. But I don't dissagree with everything for the sake of dissagreeing.

What you fail to realize is that everyone is human. Thus, everyone makes misstakes. So since you want me to defend him so bad, I'll go ahead and say Delsus missread what he said.

YAY, big fucking deal. Let's kill us some bitches for missreading something. I'm sure the world will blow up now. Thing is, you all blow EVERYTHING out of proportion. If anyone else posted the same thing, you wouldn't jump down his throat for it. You also wouldn't become rude bitches who can't wait to bite someone's balls off for making a misstake.

So what if he makes a misstake. There's no use blowing it out of proportion because of who he is. You all do it because you think its fun, not because he posts a misstake. Are you all seriously that deep inside your own asses that you can't tolerate anything?

Geez, go back to grade school. You're all fucking morons.

 

[Tim Wakefield]

Youre just fueling the fire my friend. By turning this into a giant flame fest, i bet its gonna spark more dislike and angst against those two than there was before. I get just as tired of these assholes making pointless posts as you do seeing someone flame them for it. Nobody wins, so just let it go.

 

[Uzor]

Youre just fueling the fire my friend. By turning this into a giant flame fest, i bet its gonna spark more dislike and angst against those two than there was before. I get just as tired of these assholes making pointless posts as you do seeing someone flame them for it. Nobody wins, so just let it go.

You wouldn't be annoyed about it if you didn't bother responding to them.

It's not wrong of them to post retarded posts. It's not wrong of them to not bother typing coherently. it IS wrong to constantly bash them for everythign they post.

Here's a question. I'm sure it fits in on you perfectly, aswell.

How old are you, on a scale from 1 to 10? (If you don't get it, the same works with Michael Jackson. How old are Michael Jackson's boyfriend from a scale 1 to 10).

 

[Tim Wakefield]

You wouldn't be annoyed about it if you didn't bother responding to them.

It's not wrong of them to post retarded posts. It's not wrong of them to not bother typing coherently. it IS wrong to constantly bash them for everythign they post.

Here's a question. I'm sure it fits in on you perfectly, aswell.

How old are you, on a scale from 1 to 10? (If you don't get it, the same works with Michael Jackson. How old are Michael Jackson's boyfriend from a scale 1 to 10).

I have no idea what the fuck that means...? Anyways...

It annoys me because here is the progression of a normal QCDN post...

layerA: Which piece of gear should i use, Brown Belt or Life Belt?
layerB: :Legitimate Answer:
layerC: :Legitimate Answer:
:IdiotA: Lol nether, us da swift belt lol :O
:FlamerA: "Youre a moron"
:Overly Defensive Player: Dont make fun of :IdiotA: because he _____ (Insert: "Cant Type" "Has a different opinion than you" "Isnt an elitest like you" "Tries new things")

Flamefest breaks out, original topic is runied, and thread is inevitably locked because you cant handle seeing someone be made fun of in public. Welcome to the real world, where the mentally handicapped, foreign, and minority classes are made fun of every day, in the media and on the streets. Guess what, theres nothing you can do about it.

 

[Uzor]

I have no idea what the fuck that means...? Anyways...

It annoys me because here is the progression of a normal QCDN post...

layerA: Which piece of gear should i use, Brown Belt or Life Belt?
layerB: :Legitimate Answer:
layerC: :Legitimate Answer:
:IdiotA: Lol nether, us da swift belt lol :O
:FlamerA: "Youre a moron"
:Overly Defensive Player: Dont make fun of :IdiotA: because he _____ (Insert: "Cant Type" "Has a different opinion than you" "Isnt an elitest like you" "Tries new things")

Flamefest breaks out, original topic is runied, and thread is inevitably locked because you cant handle seeing someone be made fun of in public. Welcome to the real world, where the mentally handicapped, foreign, and minority classes are made fun of every day, in the media and on the streets. Guess what, theres nothing you can do about it.

No, your view of QCDN is obviously skewed. That's OK though, people always think they're in the right. Our brain often tells us something to explain what's happening.

A lot of the time, it's actually like this

<player 1> good question
:: legitimate answer::
::legitimate answer::
:: Delsus/Hellstorm states an oppinion::
<all of QCDN> LOL, learn to type. GTFO our threads
<all of QCDN again> LOL's, I'll just dissagree because it's you. And you suck at typing.

And after some time the thread is locked.

The interresting part is that if anyone else said the same answer, no one would react the same way.

 

[Tim Wakefield]

The interresting part is that if anyone else said the same answer, no one would react the same way.

Thats the first thing you've said that i've completely agreed with. There are favorites and cliques around here, just like in any social group of people. Just like in any of those other groups (Think back to High-school, especially if yours was very stereotypical like mine, I.E. Jocks, Cheerleaders, Nerds, Goths, Etc.) certain people are treated unjustly, and some people are above the law when it comes to flaming (Or in high school, it would be grades). If the group doesnt like you, then everyone is gonna take their shot at making a mockery of you in front of their peers in order to make themselves look cool. Its the way this sick sad world works.

But as i said, there is no way to stop it, unless we turn this into the care-bear bullshit ban-festival this board was before Reeve took over. So just let it go.

 

[Mai Ikari]

The interresting part is that if anyone else said the same answer, no one would react the same way.

They'd react the same way if it was spelled the same way.


And seriously, what the hell happened to this thread? Can't you people be fun like BG and bitch about how crappy the items will be and how SE sucks, instead of derailing in a completely unrelated direction? D:

 

[Garvin]

No, your view of QCDN is obviously skewed. That's OK though, people always think they're in the right. Our brain often tells us something to explain what's happening.

A lot of the time, it's actually like this

<player 1> good question
:: legitimate answer::
::legitimate answer::
:: Delsus/Hellstorm states an oppinion::
<all of QCDN> LOL, learn to type. GTFO our threads
<all of QCDN again> LOL's, I'll just dissagree because it's you. And you suck at typing.

And after some time the thread is locked.

The interresting part is that if anyone else said the same answer, no one would react the same way.

You forgot the part where the "opinion" typically either uses inaccurate facts, shows a distinct lack of thought put into it, or is an intentional lie.

 

[Skaw]

You didn't mention old or new

I guess the word "Current" has had its definition changed recently. Sorry I missed the memo guys!

cur·rent (kûr'ənt, kŭr'-)
adj.

Belonging to the present time: current events; current leaders.
Being in progress now: current negotiations.

Nope, it's still the same.

Perhaps it might be too big of a word for you too, Lavi. I'll remember to dumb it down for select readers next time.

 

[Uzor]

You forgot the part where the "opinion" typically either uses inaccurate facts, shows a distinct lack of thought put into it, or is an intentional lie.

Opinion != facts.

Don't get them mixed

 

[Bajaratt]

Opinion != facts.

Don't get them mixed

They use inaccurate facts to form the basis of their opinions.

 

[Lavi]

Skaw's lack of clarification has nothing to do with hellstorm saying to be clearer while barely being able to make a complete sentence half the time. If he's going to tell people to be clearer in their wording, he should learn how to spell the damn words.

You're right, Hellstorm should just let Skaw tell him he's an idiot when Skaw was the one being an idiot. Yep, good idea. Wouldn't want him calling someone an idiot for no reason, now would we?

I guess the word "Current" has had its definition changed recently. Sorry I missed the memo guys!

cur·rent (kûr'ənt, kŭr'-)
adj.

Belonging to the present time: current events; current leaders.
Being in progress now: current negotiations.

Nope, it's still the same.

Perhaps it might be too big of a word for you too, Lavi. I'll remember to dumb it down for select readers next time.

Because people are oh-so-enjoying the current Abjuration item aquisition.

It's unclear as to whether you are referring to the abjuration or aquisition of the abjuration when you referred to current. One can take it either way. Perhaps you needed to make more excuses for why you didn't clarify or just accept you didn't clarify and move on. But hey, it didn't matter anyways since the response didn't clarify new or old either.

well in theory it would help spread out ls target area so there not 4-6 ls at fafnir, but we all know that wont happen because the spawn will be spaced out and ls will just hope from 1 hnm to anouther, like they do now.

While the abjurations could be new or old, the idea behind Storm's post was to spread out camps instead of all camping one place or mob. New abjurations could replace older outdated armors or possibly old abjurations would force groups to chose alternative methods beyond Aspid/Behe/Fafhogg. Either way, it wasn't specified in the above post, but you didn't need an excuse to jump all over it did you? Just Hellstorm posting was enough, right? Dumbass.

 

[Stouter]

Opinion != facts.

Don't get them mixed

Steel ships float on water, so water is more dense than steel.

That right there is a blazn/hellstorm arguement. That's my opinion, so it can't be wrong.

Or for those that need a translation:
"Steal ships float water, waters harder than steal."

 

[Uzor]

They use inaccurate facts to form the basis of their opinions.

Sometimes other members do that too. Neither does it all the time. But you still attack them all the time.

Edit: him -> them

 

[Skaw]

It's unclear as to whether you are referring to the abjuration or aquisition of the abjuration when you referred to current. One can take it either way. Perhaps you needed to make more excuses for why you didn't clarify or just accept you didn't clarify and move on. But hey, it didn't matter anyways since the response didn't clarify new or old either.

You're starting to paint yourself as more of a retard than Hellstorm. "Current Abjuration item aquisition" is as clear as it can get with a basic grasp on the english language. Atleast Hellstorm understood, but miraculously took that as talking about FUTURE Abjuration methods as well. Which is why I made the Pizza/Taco comment. Because while I did quote the entire #2 point, I was only responding to one specific part of it.

I'll spell it out for you, since you OBVIOUSLY NEED IT TO BE. Current, means whats available now. Aquisition, means the method of how you aquire them. Abjuration Item, is the noun I'm talking about. There aren't any "new" abjurations. So by simple process of elimination, I'm obviously talking about the ones in existance today, or what you're referring to as "old."

There, your life is now complete because I actually had to do that for idiots such as yourself. Honestly, if I were talking about the abjurations themselves, why would I add in "aquisition." Get off the internet. You're lacking the most remedial of tools to use it efficiently.

 

[Lavi]

You're starting to paint yourself as more of a retard than Hellstorm. "Current Abjuration item aquisition" is as clear as it can get with a basic grasp on the english language. Atleast Hellstorm understood, but miraculously took that as talking about FUTURE Abjuration methods as well. Which is why I made the Pizza/Taco comment. Because while I did quote the entire #2 point, I was only responding to one specific part of it.

I'll spell it out for you, since you OBVIOUSLY NEED IT TO BE. Current, means whats available now. Aquisition, means the method of how you aquire them. Abjuration Item, is the noun I'm talking about. There aren't any "new" abjurations. So by simple process of elimination, I'm obviously talking about the ones in existance today, or what you're referring to as "old."

There, your life is now complete because I actually had to do that for idiots such as yourself. Honestly, if I were talking about the abjurations themselves, why would I add in "aquisition." Get off the internet. You're lacking the most remedial of tools to use it efficiently.

You're a fucking idiot. Remember the post you quoted when making the reply?! It talked about NEW abjurations! Someone already suggested it and you quoted it so don't pretend you don't know... unless you don't know which makes you just retarded quoting something and not even knowing what you're quoting.

Now let's get this through that thick skull of yours:

Current Abjuration item aquisition. This is very unclear which is where the initial problem arises and you refuse to view any other way.

Abjuration item aquisition. I removed current and I am left with two nouns; Abjuration item and aquisition. Now since abjuration aquisition is preceding aquisition, I can conclude it's being used as an adjective to elaborate on what's being aquired.

Current Aquisition. If I removed abjuration item, I am left with this phrase. It's very possible the adjective current is being used to describe the aquisition method much like abjuration item was in the previous example.

Current Abjuration item. Same thing, but current refers to the abjuration item.

Which is right? Well, it's possible both Current and abjuration item are both used as adjectives to describe aquisition. Or perhaps current describes abjuration item and abjuration item elaborates on aquisition. It's very unclear.

Let me give you a good example. Large Cowboy hat. What's large describe? What's cowboy elaborate on? Well, either you're describing cowboys as large or calling the hat large. Obviously, Cowboy describes what type of hat it is, but large is unclear. Is it a hat for large cowboys? Or is a large hat that's also a cowboy hat? Do you know?

 

[hellstorm]

Why do you need to carry both Olduum and Tavnazian Rings? I keep one in Mog Safe(So it's accessible anywhere) and swap them out as recharge is going on. Unless you're a stickler for carrying gear to enhance everything to it's fullest, like myself, hitting 60 should only happen among a select few. The "5" I have free on Monk would be completely taken if I carried my 5 guarding items, Earring, Torque, Tiger Mask, Temple Hose, and whatever the 5th is. Mog Locker is my BST and MNK Equipment inventory. One or the Other, that is. Capped gear is in there as well. Mog Safe holds furnishings, remaining slots are crafting, chocobo, and other assorted junk. Storage is my low level job stuff(for example, THF equipment,) (in)complete quest items, some left over EX cap gear for MNK and BST that I'll rarely use but don't want to part with, and seals.

he was talking about how people fill 150 slots, I was giving example how it fills 150 slots to much rare/ex gear.

 

[Skaw]

Get back in the short bus, Lavi. Your time here is over. I was quoting a post about new Abjurations. And commented on how unpopular the current, similiar process is. I honestly don't know how the fuck you can take it any other way than I was talking about whats in place now, with the sentence I used, mental retardation aside.

New Abjurations aren't an answer to anything. It's an idiotic, useless middle man. Just make the armor itself drop from the HNM if you're going to go that route again.

P.S. Acquisition means something is gained. What's being agained? Abjuration Items. What Abjuration Items? The Current ones.

If life-failures need things typed out like that, they shouldn't be let out of elementary school. Sorry I'm not a retard, and could easily figure out that "Large Cowboy Hat" would refer to a Hat, Large in size, with a Cowboy style to it. There is no context to make it any other way. Much in the same way I do not understand how anyone could comment my sentence as being unclear. If you need your hand held through the dictionary to figure out what words mean and paste them together to understand the context of a sentence, thats fine. Just don't kid yourself in to thinking it's the sentences fault.

 

[hellstorm]

How many mages have heca, koenig, shara, gods drops?

And how many melees have zenith?

AF1 can be stored, RSE can be stored, storm gear sucks. Limbus coins can be turned in to the Limbus guy, and does not need to be kept in inventory. Olduum and tavnazia ring you don't need to keep in your inventory when they're not charged. Shaman cloak is the most useless piece of crap that exists, and only SMN need carby mitts.

That leaves, what? AF2, obis, zenith, and a few other pieces that's rare/ex for mages and can't be stored?

Even if you had all abjuration sets, the entire set, that's 36 pieces of gear. That still leaves 114 free slots if you keep all of them in mog locker/mog house. If you have full AF2 for all 15 jobs, that leaves 24 spaces left. This is assuming you have nothing in your inv, which still leaves 84 spaces left open. So in your inv, you can still have your normal set for your current job, being AF, all elemental staves, and other random gear. Fill your inv and you still have 24 spaces left open.

Yes, I know. Everyone have random shit we don't need in our M and mog locker, like quest items etc. I'm just saying that what we have is ALOT.

How many people have multi jobs? Like bajaratt who has mnk and whm. 2 different sets of gear needed with crap load of rare/ex gear. If you using 1 piece of af it cant be stored if you change 1 af to +1 it cant be stored. olddum tav ring are still somewhere your 150 spots regardless if in inventory or locker. The lvl 50 jse body piece from subligar pieces can not be stored. Course every person different and has different gear. The list was more of a "hey they can have all this stuff" not that they hold all that stuff. You said you don't know how anyone can fill 150 slots, that how. Multi jobs, multi gear. Not even including crafting gear/mats for those who craft.

 

[Shaunessy]

Steel ships float on water, so water is more dense than steel.

That right there is a blazn/hellstorm arguement. That's my opinion, so it can't be wrong.

Or for those that need a translation:
"Steal ships float water, waters harder than steal."

Water is pretty hard. Compare it like this, if you do a belly smacker from 50 ft up there is a higher chance that you will be injured on impact than if you cut the water with your hands or feet upon impact. Plus water has been compared to cement, so why not steel also.