POL NEWS : Upcoming Version Update (02/09/2007)

[Skaw]

If they add new ranks they need to make them worth actually doing. The only thing I could see making them worthwhile is putting some nice rare/ex junk from the ??? items.

Divisor Ring, imo, the best melee ring in the game. As long as your main job level is a multiple of 5. One of the ??? Ring results from Azure Experiments.

I don't know what they would call the new ranks, the current rank system is a bastardization of US Army and Marine rank structure, skipping a few ranks between Sergeant and Sgt Major. Sgt Major is the highest enlisted rank for both.

They didn't really skip anything, really. Just a few variant ranks. Land Forces ranks go Private > Corporal > Seagent > Lieutenant > Colonel > Major > General. Lieutenant ranks are up next, if they follow the trend. Don't see Major or General becoming actual ingame ranks, since they're pretty high priority. Wouldn't be suprised if Rank 10 turned out to be Colonel though.

What I'd like to see, is Rank affect you in Besieged. Increase your stats by a multiplier, or something similiar. They keep making it rougher(read: Cheaper), without giving any kind of boost to our side of it. We have the same retarded AI soldiers as we have since Day One. Seriously, I'm not going to be shocked at all if Level 7 has mobs that can kill Generals in one shot.

With the 4000 Mijin Gakures/Self Destructs, Equipment stripping TP move spam, the huge burn damage from Aerial Torpedo, Perdition. Thats really all there is left, something that removes Generals easily.

 

[chrono fantasy]

Well... higher rank allows your sanction to stay on longer, and possibly the new rank assaults can get you more AP or be easier. There's also those items from the sanction guy you can get based on what rank you are.

So being a higher rank isn't necessarily a waste. For newer ranks, there could be something like Lieutenant, Lieutenant whatever, Captain, and possibly the highest maybe Vice President.

IMO I think there might be 10 Mercenary rank total to match up with the 10 Nation ranks for Windy, Sandy, and Bastok. It makes sense to me for it to be that way.

 

[Khali]

anyone else have the feeling that when they increase the besieged lvl to lvl 7.. that we're gonna lose the candy.. As of now.. at lvl 6 we've had quite a few 'close calls.' And ranking promotions and etc won't matter if you don't have the astral candy in zahbi. And the other thing is getting it back.. I know you don't lose any xp for the battle to obtain it.. but i heard ppl dying just to get the key item to go to the bcnm battle for the candy.

No astral candy means..
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Super Short Sanction
No sanction bonus options (food duration bonus is like crack)
No 'free' xp and isp
no outside runic portal use

So I'd be worrying about the besieged stuff more than the assaults at this point in time, until we see how much difficult it is. Also.. didn't they have a lil teaser of some of the HNMs like the trolls trying to bring cerberus with them and the mamool ja trying to bring hydra with them or something like that long ago? Maybe the Lamiae will be connected to Khimeria or something... and they'd be the ultra mega boss for lvl 7 >.<

 

[Skaw]

anyone else have the feeling that when they increase the besieged lvl to Also.. didn't they have a lil teaser of some of the HNMs like the trolls trying to bring cerberus with them and the mamool ja trying to bring hydra with them or something like that long ago? Maybe the Lamiae will be connected to Khimeria or something... and they'd be the ultra mega boss for lvl 7 >.<

Yeah, that was supposed to be in the last update, but it was held over. Don't think they gave an reason for holding it either.

 

[ds083roadkill]

They didn't really skip anything, really. Just a few variant ranks. Land Forces ranks go Private > Corporal > Seagent > Lieutenant > Colonel > Major > General. Lieutenant ranks are up next, if they follow the trend.

Can tell thats wrong from first glace, SSG, 1SG? you'd be in deep shit if you didnt recognize your 1SG by face lol.

Mixing the NCO and CO ranks also is wrong. i'm sure theier not going to put in the plethora of warrant officers, but they do hold greater rank then enlisted.

http://www.army.mil/symbols/armyranks.html

now the marines is differant, which they seemed to mix the two.

http://www.marine-family.org/rank/rank.htm

ninja edit: CSM is still E-9 so techically i guess not, but iirc, that only applies to pay grade.

 

[Skaw]

Roady, did you willingly ignore "Variants?" Sure, theres a difference between First Sergeant and Staff. But they're variants of the Sergeant rank. Though, I did mix up Colonel and Major.

 

[K. Ishitar]

They're gonna erase bst, drg, and pup.

hell they wont >;/

 

[Stouter]

Roady, did you willingly ignore "Variants?" Sure, theres a difference between First Sergeant and Staff. But they're variants of the Sergeant rank. Though, I did mix up Colonel and Major.

You mixed up enlisted and officer, they aren't on the same scale. The jump from new private to corporal is rather insignifigant compared to the huge leap between Sergeant and Sgt Major, you're talking about 3 years of service for the former, around 10 for the latter. There's 3 ranks in between the former, 0 in between the latter.

 

[Stouter]

CSM is still E-9 so techically i guess not, but iirc, that only applies to pay grade.

I don't know Army, but I assume that CSM works like the Marines.

After Gunnery Sgt the rank splits into two branches, one leadership/admin and the other field/job speciality. First Sgt > Sgt Major and Master Sgt > Master Gunnery Sgt, respectively.

 

[Kizaryo]

Ahh, new assault ranks and other goodies. :-D
I'll definitely be looking forward to it.

I hope they can extend the tag limit though.
For now its been a 4 to 3 ratio a week.
It would be nice if they bumped it by one or two.

 

[Psylentcuda]

You mixed up enlisted and officer, they aren't on the same scale. The jump from new private to corporal is rather insignifigant compared to the huge leap between Sergeant and Sgt Major, you're talking about 3 years of service for the former, around 10 for the latter. There's 3 ranks in between the former, 0 in between the latter.

In the Army its 3-5 years usually to obtain SGT but SMJ is about 20 years plus 20 being on the low end if you're high speed but generally looking at close to 27-30 years for the slower ones. Anyhoo the rank is unimportant. I have a feeling by the time they're done you'll see a LT rank, Captain rank, Major rank, and then Colonel rank as the highest seeing as how the Generals are all NPCs.

 

[Areya]

I'm actually hoping for some freaking relic gear for the new jobs...like...idk...corsair *cough* *cough*...

doubtful though

highly

 

[K. Ishitar]

yeah I still think they are "gathering data" to decide what stats to put onto it and browse the sites and determine what the player needs vs. what SE wants out of a job and see how well they correlate

 

[meeze]

yeah I still think they are "gathering data" to decide what stats to put onto it and browse the sites and determine what the player needs vs. what SE wants out of a job and see how well they correlate

i think they should give random stats on 4/5 pieces, and good stats on 1/5, but that slot has to have a better piece available just like every other job.

 

[Charcoip]

I want to see them finally do something with "The Pit" and "The Colluseum"

 

[Calais]

Level 7 Besieged is disappointing. Second tier merits and adding more merits overall would be sooo nice. I wouldn't complain about relic for the new jobs either, everyone and their mother would want blu and maybe free-up some other jobs.

 

[meeze]

If I recall, they already said the new job relics wouldn't be from dynamis, so there would still be those lotters after original jobs in dynamis.

 

[Celvantes]

I think the full rank structure (assuming 10 ranks and that they're following the pattern they've already set) will be like this:

Private Second Class
Private First Class
Superior Private
Lance Corporal
Corporal
Sergeant
Sergeant Major
Second Lieutenant
First Lieutenant
Captain (being the last rank)

Or, the last three will be:
Lieutenant
Captain
Major (being the last rank)

 

[Laubibent]

Where is my damn promised Make me better in PT Thing for bst SE said they were going to add a few months back, slackers -.-

 

[Uzor]

Have Cerberus etc. actually appeared in Besieged even once?