Uzor said:
zomgurmom!
Child.
Such and angry little Swede.
I digress.
I never denied I said it's a cheat. You're making htings up now in order to try and prove me wrong, which you still horribly fail to do. What I said, exactly, was that I said that yes, it's against the ToS, and can be considered a cheat program. Not that breaking the ToS makes it a cheat program.
Read more, stupid. You stated it 'can' be and then went railing on about how it IS. No leway. Simply IS. CAN is not IS. CAN means it could go either way. My point from the very beginning. How fucking more dense do you think you could manage to be?
The ONLY definition of cheating that even remotely works is as a violation of the ToS. Which while the ToS are "rules" they do not correlate or designate fair play. Other than that, and it's a stretch at that, you've got nothing and neither do your flunkies.
Well, I do admit. I might have bolded the wrong key word. and can would probably have been better to prove my point, but w/e
Actually it proves my point. What you've been black and white about this whole time is now looking awfully grey. Small wonder.
You fail to comprehend this even though you've been proven wrong many times.
Really? Where'd you prove anything? last i checked
I had definitions,
i quoted the ToS,
I shot your argument full of holes at every turn and the only people who pop in to this thread besides your two flunkies are here to tell you what a dumbass you are and how i'm all full of win for any given post. Sounds to me like you're in denial.
Tell that to yourself. You're the one that kept bringing up examples that breaks the ToS. I simply responded. Get with the program numbnuts.
The only defining counter on your end was that is was a break in the ToS, as i've shown in your quotes. As such my counter was that if breaking the ToS was cheating then there are a numerous other things that break the ToS without being cheats. As that's the case the argument is weak and provides you no other alternative then to assign the grey area i had been on about for quite some time. You refused and planted your head firmly up your ass for 20 pages until you finally realized you couldn't have it both ways.
Wow, you're full of bullshit. I've been playing since NA release, and they did not add that information from datamining. I were reading both allakhazam, killingifrit and ffxionline since long before NA release.
So sorry but you're dead wrong. That aside there's numerous patches for the game they have datamined. They datamine EQ2. They datamine WoW. FFXI isn't something they handle with special care. The most popular guide sites are almost all guilty of datamining. It's called keeping up with the competition. If they didn't they wouldn't be as popular for having fast accurate information. Learn about how to run a game-information website sometime. Hell send the WM an email, go for it. Ask. Do it. I already know what you'll be told.
Actually, you're wrong again. I said writing things down manually is not cheating since that's doing work yourself. You fail much as ever I see.
Much like you do at reading. If writting things down realtime in the combat log is impossible to do, as you and others have stated, then writting down what the NPCs say must be as well. If you can make a wildly unfounded generalizing sweep of a statement it's only fair that i do the same. I think sarcasm is just a little too mature for you to pick up.
I'd s ay you're the one ignorant by choice. You chose to remain a saint by fooling yourself you've always played clean, and never played with anyone usinga cheat. And you should go back and read law, 'cause you suck at it. Additionally, you should also take some courses in "argumentation 101".
I'm sure i have played with people who used a cheat althought anything past the windower and the parser is speculation. I looked at maps, guides, stats, etc, etc. Anyone who can't could consider me a cheat. Other than that i can say i've got a pretty clean conscience. Everything else here is you stealing my bits again, wah! cry more noob. As far as law goes you might think about brushing up on it yourself. Go back and check the blanket statement definition, while you're at it take a peek at how SE names what violates their agreements and not any of us.
Furthermore that has exactly dick to do with it being a cheat, why don't you dance a little more bitch?
And please, stop trying to act high and mighty. You're a moron, I didn't once use your arguments to try and prove my point, other then when your arguments are contradicting yourself.
I know you're not that great at it and all but seriously ... read. You're a fucking parrot. My insults, my counters, my example style, you've brought nothing to the table that wasen't mine from page 1. It's right there for everyone to see. Stay as jaded as you like, no skin off my nose. You've got some problems tho, might seek professional help. If nothing else just do a little thinking that doesn't involve me for a minute and you
might be able to pull something original out of that crap you call a brain.
Actually, I'm using your insults because I find them so hillariously sad and pathetic. You really work hard to think of insults for me, so I don't want your work to be wasted internet space. Thus, since I'm so much better then you, I use them so they can actually be meaningfull. You should be happy.
Yea, i sure do work hard 3 minutes at a time responding to your posts at length. Give me a break, just more trying sound like me. As is made obvious by how long you've kept this topic up you can barely assign meaning to your own pathetic little life let alone my material. It has meaning. It means you're a dumbass. You've helped out more than enough to assign it validation.
There's still the fact that someone who think buying mage equipment for a melee job is smart, he's stupid enough to not understand the information online. I can assure you he's one of the people who play his own way regardless of what anyone says. So your argument still fails. try again next year when you actually have something that can counter me.
That's not the fucking point you fucking moron. The point you made was that:
Uzor said:
If you're going about equipment, then that's not even a guide about the job. That's a comparison between gear, in which case we're in a whole other argument.
My counter was that the guide does, indeed, have equipment in them and to disregard that information as not only integral to most class guides was to play the job like a moron. Try to keep up. Hell you can't even go back 2 fucking pages and make sense of your own words let alone mine ... good job, you're right .. your'e so much better than me. I wish i had the memory capacity of a hamster. Your life must be grand. Btw, it's most likely time to have someone change your diaper.
You've been saying for pages now that guides are all written from parsing and datamining. One such instance is
Not once have i said all. I've said most of the sites they're listed on are responsible for violations of the ToS of the highest order and are a foundation of cheating by numerous definitions we've all used. You inferred i meant all guides. I, in fact,
bolded the word MOST in my last response to you. Read a little more there, chunk.
The other ones I won't bother looking for. You're not worth it.
Because they don't exist and you lack to skill to understand the argument you're trying to make to me. You don't read what you reply to. You infer based on what little english you can comprehend and then go on a wild tangent from there. Get a fucking teething ring, you're not worth my time anymore. While i was a bit rash claiming it was written by a cheat the fact remains you stated parser information is a cheat. Therefore if there's mention of it in a guide the guide either contains information that would be considered cheating or was written by someone who used the parser i.e. a cheat. I wrote the definitions down if you had trouble with it because i was sure you would. Go ahead, grab up those examples, chief. It's not that hard to nail someone with their own quotes ... well it might be for you trying to pin me down. I found it remarkably easy to do with you but when you change your story so much and continually forget what you've said i'm sure it throws the curve. Good luck and godspeed. :thumbsup:
Good thing you're flattered. Atleast now your insults are worth something. As for none of my insults being worth their weight in salt, that's a matter of oppinion. Personally I think your insults are pathetic, thus I reuse them for reasosn stated above.
Meanwhile you can't manage better than 'zomg shitcock!', 'brush your teeth!' and the wonderfully resourceful 'noob' in response there, kiddo. You're the man now dog! '95 called back and wants it's insults back.
Well, you're quite wrong there. I'm doing a lot of typos due to me not bothering to re-read what I've written. You're simply not worth it. It's also come down to me writing replys before I go to bed, thus I'm rather tired.
Typos don't involve reading. Typos primarily involve typing. Rereading isn't required, that's called editing. You're flying so fast to get your frustrations out you keep fucking up typing. It comes with stress, it's quite easily recognizable. Whatever you tell yourself to get to sleep at night tho.
Um, why am I even bothering explaining myself to you? nvm. You can believe what you want. If you think that's the reason, then please. Go ahead and think you're right. Maybe then you can take pride in thinking you're right for once. Keep that feeling then, because it's the only time you'll be right in this thread.
Further proving my point.
Get some tissues and have yourself a nice day.
It all comes down to this. 1/11 definitions of the word 'cheat' is applicable. However, using this 1 definition there are numerous other violations of the 'rules' as defined (read: ToS) that simply don't make sense if they're all to hold to the same standards of actually being a cheat. Hell, as has been shown SE supports and approves several of them. If you want to be technical 1 application applies but to use that definition is to never go outside of the client for anything you might need, which is ridiculous. In an ideal world you'd be right, in the real world you aren't. That's it. The end. No insult, no bullshit, that's just how it is.
Not really much point anymore. You don't even remember your own words. You've lost your point. You're now starting to agree with everything i've said since the last thread. The thread i'll remind you that you didn't read. Much like this thread. You couldn't even be bothered to note your own thoughts or read what you had to say so much as dismiss it as soon as you hit post and pray for the best. You're zero content, you lack depth, and you're more than happy to play the insult game with me instead of actually getting back to the topic at hand. In short you fail. Just another name i've trounced on the flameboard over some piddly-ass stupid fucking topic no one will remember in a week but you. The only reason you'll remember is because it'll still sting and everytime you go to make the argument from here on out you'll be waiting for a link to this thread or one of these posts with someone calling you a dumbass.
Live in fear, my work here is done.