POLNews - GM Policy (12th December)*Update* - continued from the other thread

Makelith said:
Its called making a friend that plays on the PC. You might have one, i don't know you that well. But don't play that BS around here. Thats just retarded.

EDIT: Or just google that shit. Lord knows parsing has been around long enough to be done to death. As a fellow former PS2 player, i was happy everyday knowing i could just pull up my laptop and look up parsed information on how to make myself better. If you don't do that, its your own fault.
and the people who don't have a computer? Also the whole have friend on computer ploy just make you look even more guilty. If the person A cant do it but person B can then that would be what is called a advantage.
 
hellstorm said:
and the people who don't have a computer? Also the whole have friend on computer ploy just make you look even more guilty. If the person A cant do it but person B can then that would be what is called a advantage.
By this logic, everyone who plays on ps2/xbox has an advantage over me since they can access their computer to check their e-mail or lookup maps or quests while playing. Not to mention significantly less lag. Windower just evens the odds.
 
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RoM said:
The only definition you have that works.

Listen McFly, since you like that name so much. YOU ADMIT I have a working definition of the word cheating which fits your definition to a tee.

Realizing your error you decide to type a long winded, since me using the term hard to read bothers you, response going through every other definition that does not apply.

No method of cheating applies to ALL 11 variations... It doesn't have to. Here's a simple formula:

1 > 0 = My one evidence, and I only need one, versus your lacking a single shred to dispute it.

Tell Professor Brown I said hi iwhen you go back to Hill Valley.
 
Bajaratt said:
By this logic, everyone who plays on ps2/xbox has an advantage over me since they can access their computer to check their e-mail or lookup maps or quests while playing. Not to mention significantly less lag. Windower just evens the odds.
By this logic, everyone that plays on PC has an advantage over me because they can play other games on their PS2 and 360 while playing. Not to mention significantly less lag.

I'm going to say it though. Looking up maps on the internet is cheating. If you didn't get the map for your character then suffer the consequences.
 
RoM said:
claimed you can't count cards in poker to a card counter

Have you played a game of adult poker? How do you count cards when 90% of the hands are folded or bluffed? I read that crap you posted it assumes you can see the cards like maybe the kiddy poker you play where everybody has an advantage yet no one is disadvantaged. What a world you live in.
 
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Tomasello said:
Have you played a game of adult poker? How do you count cards when 90% of the hands are folded or bluffed? I read that crap you posted it assumes you can see the cards like maybe the kiddy poker you play where everybody has an advantage yet no one is disadvantaged. What a world you live in.

Check the link i provided. Stupid. Folded and bluffed hands have a value assigned to them in the instance you can't tell (those only being at the start of a sleeve) Seeing as how cards are shown at the end of a hand, you again show you don't even know how to play poker adult, child, or otherwise. You obviously didn't read very far in to it or comprehend any of it. Card counting works on ratios and odds which are established by how many cards to a deck and how many decks to a sleeve. Based on bets you can infer what cards are in any given hand. Regardless, you've never been to a casino and until such time as you know what you're talking about do yourself the favor of either shutting up or blowing it out your ass.
 
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Tomasello said:
Listen McFly, since you like that name so much. YOU ADMIT I have a working definition of the word cheating which fits your definition to a tee.

I admit you have one that you stretch to cover your meager excuse of an argument. In practice, however, i can show how it doesn't hold up. But you ignored all that, it wasen't convinient.

Realizing your error you decide to type a long winded, since me using the term hard to read bothers you, response going through every other definition that does not apply.

No definition of cheating applies. It wasen't long winded, it was thorough. Blame dictionary.com

No method of cheating applies to ALL 11 variations... It doesn't have to. Here's a simple formula:

1 > 0 = My one evidence, and I only need one, versus your lacking a single shred to dispute it.

Your 1 doesn't work. Hiding an ace is cheating. Knowing what an ace is and that you need as many as possible along with the chances you might pull one given how many people are at the table is not. Fail.

And i'm sorry single shred?

you: 1/11 and that's being generous since your one doesn't hold up under this argument.

me: 10/11 that don't apply emphatically and 1 that is simply wrong with consideration that we're talking about an MMO.

Yea.. no evidence there.

Tell Professor Brown I said hi iwhen you go back to Hill Valley.

Great Scott!
 
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hellstorm said:
and the people who don't have a computer? Also the whole have friend on computer ploy just make you look even more guilty. If the person A cant do it but person B can then that would be what is called a advantage.

Why do you even keep bothering? The other two i can understand. They can actually put together a cohesive thought on occasion.

Obviously anyone who has a computer is cheating.

Obviously anyone who doesn't have a computer is being victimized by those of us in the 21st century.

That aside mayhaps having a friend with a computer might be beneficial so you can look up information, not just run the parser. But since they can ... and you wouldn't be able to without them... THEY'RE CHEATING! DON'T ACCEPT ANY HELP FROM THEM!!!!!11!!1omgz1

You win, go away, dumbass. I handled you 2 threads ago and the board ruled you well before that on this issue.
 
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Shaunessy said:
By this logic, everyone that plays on PC has an advantage over me because they can play other games on their PS2 and 360 while playing. Not to mention significantly less lag.

You can't claim disadvantage in the conversation based on not being able to play another game or do something unrelated to FFXI. It's outside the confines of the topic and has nothing to do with cheating. Me watching tv does not disadvantage the community or anyone with relation to FFXI.

I'm going to say it though. Looking up maps on the internet is cheating. If you didn't get the map for your character then suffer the consequences.

This is why Uzor didn't answer to the same argument i made about allakhazam and simply omitted the pieces that are absolutely correct but inconvinient for his flawed logic.
 
RoM said:
You can't claim disadvantage in the conversation based on not being able to play another game or do something unrelated to FFXI. It's outside the confines of the topic and has nothing to do with cheating. Me watching tv does not disadvantage the community or anyone with relation to FFXI.
If this argument is so then barjaratt can't use the email/net as a disadvantage. The difference is that parser is a 3rd party program that is not sanction or endorse by Square Enix and is using there software in a way not intendant there for cheating. Guides have been out for games since pacman was around. Also you beating me, you never have. Your in denial, over a game you don't even play anymore.



RoM said:
This is why Uzor didn't answer to the same argument i made about allakhazam and simply omitted the pieces that are absolutely correct but inconvinient for his flawed logic.
He did they just went over your head as normal.
 
RoM said:
'Can' was not the operative word before or during the argument you made. it's also not something you've given any ground on since. 'Can' means there are other options than considering a cheat, which you will not allow for. 'Can' would be allowing for my grey area, which you refuse to do. You have been saying it is a cheat. You're whole point is that it is a cheat or you would've never moved this to the FB after not reading the original thread. But now, cornered by your own quotes you've started dancing again. *I* said it could (grey area) be but only if you're a dumbass. You're a dumbass, hence we had our problem.
Still a noob as awalys.

I never denied I said it's a cheat. You're making htings up now in order to try and prove me wrong, which you still horribly fail to do. What I said, exactly, was that I said that yes, it's against the ToS, and can be considered a cheat program. Not that breaking the ToS makes it a cheat program.

Well, I do admit. I might have bolded the wrong key word. and can would probably have been better to prove my point, but w/e
The problem with this is it doesn't fit any definition of a cheat as has been shown multiple times. You fail to comprehend this even though it's been proven that the definition doesn't fit numerous times.
You fail to comprehend this even though you've been proven wrong many times.

The topic is wether the parser is cheating, numbnuts. Get with the goddamn program. Your only defining point up until page 21 in the argument was breaches of the ToS which i showed. Fail a little more, your agony sustains me.
Tell that to yourself. You're the one that kept bringing up examples that breaks the ToS. I simply responded. Get with the program numbnuts.


Actually i'm sorry but you're just simply wrong here. The text on the stones (specificly) was datamined. I know because i looked that quest up before it had user input (Read: NA release - Rise of Zilart release). It's called personal experience, get some. The text for the AF quest was, indeed, datamined. As was guslam's name. It was added immediately following the servers coming up for NA. No one wrote anything down (with relation to the guide) until they knew where to go and put 2 and 2 together about what to do. It's not as if someone ran around to every NPC in jeuno looking for the text which was datamined. The gensis of most of the quest information on allakhazam can be traced to datamining. There's always an example to throw the curve but the averages are against you.
Wow, you're full of bullshit. I've been playing since NA release, and they did not add that information from datamining. I were reading both allakhazam, killingifrit and ffxionline since long before NA release.

As far as writting things down. It can't be done with the combat log, by your comments to this thread. Therefore it's just not done with quest info, right? I mean the comments you read go in to a log (just like the combat info/parser) and if those comments are posted on the web it's cheating those who otherwise can't go back and reference it (i.e. no browser/PC) because the former have an advantage.
Actually, you're wrong again. I said writing things down manually is not cheating since that's doing work yourself. You fail much as ever I see.

Obviously you're unteachable. You remain ignorant by choice, which is the only way to achieve it. You have no retention so it's really not that unexpected. The facts are you just attempted to use the same argument on me that i used on you and still have no idea what a blanket statement is or how ToS agreements are applied. Again go back and read, there's educational content you missed out on that prove not only are you at base all but illiterate you're a complete fucking moron.
I'd s ay you're the one ignorant by choice. You chose to remain a saint by fooling yourself you've always played clean, and never played with anyone usinga cheat. And you should go back and read law, 'cause you suck at it. Additionally, you should also take some courses in "argumentation 101".

And please, stop trying to act high and mighty. You're a moron, I didn't once use your arguments to try and prove my point, other then when your arguments are contradicting yourself.

So clever. I'm beginning to think without my material you've got nothing. I like how you omitted half my response to your rebuttal just to jaw about things you know nothing about only to close using my own insults because you don't have any of your own. You're clever and fresh. I'd almost envy you if it wasen't for the fact that well .. i'm me and my material is as original as blathering on a message board gets. Keep it up, someday you'll be on my level. :thumbsup:
Actually, I'm using your insults because I find them so hillariously sad and pathetic. You really work hard to think of insults for me, so I don't want your work to be wasted internet space. Thus, since I'm so much better then you, I use them so they can actually be meaningfull. You should be happy.

What percentage of MMO gamers new to a game do you think order gil/currency online before starting a character to give themselves a boost? It's probably a bigger number than most of us are willing to admit. That's neither here nor there. You're changing the parameters of your argument after the fact, it's a disturbing trend in your posts. As for being smart enough to read info online, you manage, anything's possible.
There's still the fact that someone who think buying mage equipment for a melee job is smart, he's stupid enough to not understand the information online. I can assure you he's one of the people who play his own way regardless of what anyone says. So your argument still fails. try again next year when you actually have something that can counter me.

Really? I could swear i've been saying this for pages now. You're right (mark your calender) you don't need the parser to keep track of your information but it helps. I never said they were parsed or datamined, please do quote that or GTFO with your dillusions. If you're not held to the standard of the implication then neither am i. Unless i said it it could've meant anything that might advantage me out of looking like a dumbass a couple pages from now, taking a page out of your book.. hope you don't mind, you've been stealing my jokes or pages now. Fair's fair.
You've been saying for pages now that guides are all written from parsing and datamining. One such instance is

SE Community Approved site. Guide written by a cheat. It's a damn good guide too, such a shame.
The other ones I won't bother looking for. You're not worth it.

Not so much as every insult worth it's weight in salt you've had to spit out was originally mine. If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery you must love me bunches. I am indeed flattered, when in doubt look to those who are better than you at what you attempt and copy. Thanks for the compliments.
Good thing you're flattered. Atleast now your insults are worth something. As for none of my insults being worth their weight in salt, that's a matter of oppinion. Personally I think your insults are pathetic, thus I reuse them for reasosn stated above.

The staggering ammount of typos, the broken quotes, the frothing and posturing. I've seen it before. You get half way in to my post and your heart rate is up, your ears are warm, your breathing picks up, your brain shuts off and your fingers go to work. You make yourself the prey and then just can't put it down. Everyone sees it. You're weak.

I was under the impression you (specificly) didn't have to think. Just quote blindly and hope for the best. That aside all you've managed to do is parrot me with a staggering lack of intellect for quite some time now on the insult page and resort to the 'your mom' bracket without my material. Consider it a favor from me to you, you've been schooled in the subject of the burn. I just wish you'dve taken notes, my material in your posts just doesn't do the caustic art of the burn any justice.
Well, you're quite wrong there. I'm doing a lot of typos due to me not bothering to re-read what I've written. You're simply not worth it. It's also come down to me writing replys before I go to bed, thus I'm rather tired.

Um, why am I even bothering explaining myself to you? nvm. You can believe what you want. If you think that's the reason, then please. Go ahead and think you're right. Maybe then you can take pride in thinking you're right for once. Keep that feeling then, because it's the only time you'll be right in this thread.
 
hellstorm said:
If this argument is so then barjaratt can't use the email/net as a disadvantage. The difference is that parser is a 3rd party program that is not sanction or endorse by Square Enix and is using there software in a way not intendant there for cheating. Guides have been out for games since pacman was around. Also you beating me, you never have. Your in denial, over a game you don't even play anymore.

Right, because the internet doesn't have anything related to FFXI on it that you might need to check up on for the game.

Think just a little more before you post.

Also, it's not the game that drew me in to the conversation. I like moral/ethical arguments/conversations. More specificly semantics are good fun and it's especially nice when i get a troglodyte (you), a dumbass (tom), and a crybaby (Uzor) in on the action to keep me busy during the free time i get to tool around here while i'm doing other things of much greater importance irl. People like you make my day go faster.

He did they just went over your head as normal.

Yea.. right, Captain tapdance went over my head by leaving out what isn't convinient and not answering to it when i've given him an answer and counter for everything he's had to say. You don't get to pick and choose what's convinient and what's not for your logic. Either it's flawed in some respects or it isn't. His allakhazam references are fundamentally flawed for datamined content for the NPC chat logs and the maps used. Two details which he omitted because to admit that i was right on those counts destroys his opposition to my point.

Don't you have paint chips you could be eating right now?
 
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Uzor said:
Still a noob as awalys.

zomgurmom!

Child.

Such and angry little Swede.

I digress.

I never denied I said it's a cheat. You're making htings up now in order to try and prove me wrong, which you still horribly fail to do. What I said, exactly, was that I said that yes, it's against the ToS, and can be considered a cheat program. Not that breaking the ToS makes it a cheat program.

Read more, stupid. You stated it 'can' be and then went railing on about how it IS. No leway. Simply IS. CAN is not IS. CAN means it could go either way. My point from the very beginning. How fucking more dense do you think you could manage to be?

The ONLY definition of cheating that even remotely works is as a violation of the ToS. Which while the ToS are "rules" they do not correlate or designate fair play. Other than that, and it's a stretch at that, you've got nothing and neither do your flunkies.

Well, I do admit. I might have bolded the wrong key word. and can would probably have been better to prove my point, but w/e

Actually it proves my point. What you've been black and white about this whole time is now looking awfully grey. Small wonder.

You fail to comprehend this even though you've been proven wrong many times.

Really? Where'd you prove anything? last i checked I had definitions, i quoted the ToS, I shot your argument full of holes at every turn and the only people who pop in to this thread besides your two flunkies are here to tell you what a dumbass you are and how i'm all full of win for any given post. Sounds to me like you're in denial.


Tell that to yourself. You're the one that kept bringing up examples that breaks the ToS. I simply responded. Get with the program numbnuts.

The only defining counter on your end was that is was a break in the ToS, as i've shown in your quotes. As such my counter was that if breaking the ToS was cheating then there are a numerous other things that break the ToS without being cheats. As that's the case the argument is weak and provides you no other alternative then to assign the grey area i had been on about for quite some time. You refused and planted your head firmly up your ass for 20 pages until you finally realized you couldn't have it both ways.

Wow, you're full of bullshit. I've been playing since NA release, and they did not add that information from datamining. I were reading both allakhazam, killingifrit and ffxionline since long before NA release.

So sorry but you're dead wrong. That aside there's numerous patches for the game they have datamined. They datamine EQ2. They datamine WoW. FFXI isn't something they handle with special care. The most popular guide sites are almost all guilty of datamining. It's called keeping up with the competition. If they didn't they wouldn't be as popular for having fast accurate information. Learn about how to run a game-information website sometime. Hell send the WM an email, go for it. Ask. Do it. I already know what you'll be told.

Actually, you're wrong again. I said writing things down manually is not cheating since that's doing work yourself. You fail much as ever I see.

Much like you do at reading. If writting things down realtime in the combat log is impossible to do, as you and others have stated, then writting down what the NPCs say must be as well. If you can make a wildly unfounded generalizing sweep of a statement it's only fair that i do the same. I think sarcasm is just a little too mature for you to pick up.

I'd s ay you're the one ignorant by choice. You chose to remain a saint by fooling yourself you've always played clean, and never played with anyone usinga cheat. And you should go back and read law, 'cause you suck at it. Additionally, you should also take some courses in "argumentation 101".

I'm sure i have played with people who used a cheat althought anything past the windower and the parser is speculation. I looked at maps, guides, stats, etc, etc. Anyone who can't could consider me a cheat. Other than that i can say i've got a pretty clean conscience. Everything else here is you stealing my bits again, wah! cry more noob. As far as law goes you might think about brushing up on it yourself. Go back and check the blanket statement definition, while you're at it take a peek at how SE names what violates their agreements and not any of us.

Furthermore that has exactly dick to do with it being a cheat, why don't you dance a little more bitch?

And please, stop trying to act high and mighty. You're a moron, I didn't once use your arguments to try and prove my point, other then when your arguments are contradicting yourself.

I know you're not that great at it and all but seriously ... read. You're a fucking parrot. My insults, my counters, my example style, you've brought nothing to the table that wasen't mine from page 1. It's right there for everyone to see. Stay as jaded as you like, no skin off my nose. You've got some problems tho, might seek professional help. If nothing else just do a little thinking that doesn't involve me for a minute and you might be able to pull something original out of that crap you call a brain.

Actually, I'm using your insults because I find them so hillariously sad and pathetic. You really work hard to think of insults for me, so I don't want your work to be wasted internet space. Thus, since I'm so much better then you, I use them so they can actually be meaningfull. You should be happy.

Yea, i sure do work hard 3 minutes at a time responding to your posts at length. Give me a break, just more trying sound like me. As is made obvious by how long you've kept this topic up you can barely assign meaning to your own pathetic little life let alone my material. It has meaning. It means you're a dumbass. You've helped out more than enough to assign it validation.

There's still the fact that someone who think buying mage equipment for a melee job is smart, he's stupid enough to not understand the information online. I can assure you he's one of the people who play his own way regardless of what anyone says. So your argument still fails. try again next year when you actually have something that can counter me.

That's not the fucking point you fucking moron. The point you made was that:

Uzor said:
If you're going about equipment, then that's not even a guide about the job. That's a comparison between gear, in which case we're in a whole other argument.

My counter was that the guide does, indeed, have equipment in them and to disregard that information as not only integral to most class guides was to play the job like a moron. Try to keep up. Hell you can't even go back 2 fucking pages and make sense of your own words let alone mine ... good job, you're right .. your'e so much better than me. I wish i had the memory capacity of a hamster. Your life must be grand. Btw, it's most likely time to have someone change your diaper.


You've been saying for pages now that guides are all written from parsing and datamining. One such instance is

Not once have i said all. I've said most of the sites they're listed on are responsible for violations of the ToS of the highest order and are a foundation of cheating by numerous definitions we've all used. You inferred i meant all guides. I, in fact, bolded the word MOST in my last response to you. Read a little more there, chunk.


The other ones I won't bother looking for. You're not worth it.

Because they don't exist and you lack to skill to understand the argument you're trying to make to me. You don't read what you reply to. You infer based on what little english you can comprehend and then go on a wild tangent from there. Get a fucking teething ring, you're not worth my time anymore. While i was a bit rash claiming it was written by a cheat the fact remains you stated parser information is a cheat. Therefore if there's mention of it in a guide the guide either contains information that would be considered cheating or was written by someone who used the parser i.e. a cheat. I wrote the definitions down if you had trouble with it because i was sure you would. Go ahead, grab up those examples, chief. It's not that hard to nail someone with their own quotes ... well it might be for you trying to pin me down. I found it remarkably easy to do with you but when you change your story so much and continually forget what you've said i'm sure it throws the curve. Good luck and godspeed. :thumbsup:


Good thing you're flattered. Atleast now your insults are worth something. As for none of my insults being worth their weight in salt, that's a matter of oppinion. Personally I think your insults are pathetic, thus I reuse them for reasosn stated above.

Meanwhile you can't manage better than 'zomg shitcock!', 'brush your teeth!' and the wonderfully resourceful 'noob' in response there, kiddo. You're the man now dog! '95 called back and wants it's insults back.


Well, you're quite wrong there. I'm doing a lot of typos due to me not bothering to re-read what I've written. You're simply not worth it. It's also come down to me writing replys before I go to bed, thus I'm rather tired.

Typos don't involve reading. Typos primarily involve typing. Rereading isn't required, that's called editing. You're flying so fast to get your frustrations out you keep fucking up typing. It comes with stress, it's quite easily recognizable. Whatever you tell yourself to get to sleep at night tho.

Um, why am I even bothering explaining myself to you? nvm. You can believe what you want. If you think that's the reason, then please. Go ahead and think you're right. Maybe then you can take pride in thinking you're right for once. Keep that feeling then, because it's the only time you'll be right in this thread.

Further proving my point.

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Get some tissues and have yourself a nice day.

It all comes down to this. 1/11 definitions of the word 'cheat' is applicable. However, using this 1 definition there are numerous other violations of the 'rules' as defined (read: ToS) that simply don't make sense if they're all to hold to the same standards of actually being a cheat. Hell, as has been shown SE supports and approves several of them. If you want to be technical 1 application applies but to use that definition is to never go outside of the client for anything you might need, which is ridiculous. In an ideal world you'd be right, in the real world you aren't. That's it. The end. No insult, no bullshit, that's just how it is.

Not really much point anymore. You don't even remember your own words. You've lost your point. You're now starting to agree with everything i've said since the last thread. The thread i'll remind you that you didn't read. Much like this thread. You couldn't even be bothered to note your own thoughts or read what you had to say so much as dismiss it as soon as you hit post and pray for the best. You're zero content, you lack depth, and you're more than happy to play the insult game with me instead of actually getting back to the topic at hand. In short you fail. Just another name i've trounced on the flameboard over some piddly-ass stupid fucking topic no one will remember in a week but you. The only reason you'll remember is because it'll still sting and everytime you go to make the argument from here on out you'll be waiting for a link to this thread or one of these posts with someone calling you a dumbass.

Live in fear, my work here is done.
 
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hellstorm said:
If this argument is so then barjaratt can't use the email/net as a disadvantage. The difference is that parser is a 3rd party program that is not sanction or endorse by Square Enix and is using there software in a way not intendant there for cheating. Guides have been out for games since pacman was around. Also you beating me, you never have. Your in denial, over a game you don't even play anymore.
Let's look at what RoM said and why you're a fucking moron for ignoring it.
RoM said:
You can't claim disadvantage in the conversation based on not being able to play another game or do something unrelated to FFXI. It's outside the confines of the topic and has nothing to do with cheating. Me watching tv does not disadvantage the community or anyone with relation to FFXI.
Saying that PC gives you an advantage because you can do something without any relation whatsoever to FFXI is retarded and completely off topic; you're grasping at straws so far away that you're just looking like an idiot. PS2 users can look up maps, quest information, they can even browse the AH now; that's a huge advantage over a PC user that the windower corrects.

There are no guides for FFXI that are not online, the brady guide is so full of shit that it disqualifies itself.

The only one in denial is you, you're a fucking idiot who argues on the level of peregrine: just ignore how your defense just got blown to hell and act like they never responded.
 
Bajaratt said:
Let's look at what RoM said and why you're a fucking moron for ignoring it.

Saying that PC gives you an advantage because you can do something without any relation whatsoever to FFXI is retarded and completely off topic; you're grasping at straws so far away that you're just looking like an idiot. PS2 users can look up maps, quest information, they can even browse the AH now; that's a huge advantage over a PC user that the windower corrects.

There are no guides for FFXI that are not online, the brady guide is so full of shit that it disqualifies itself.

The only one in denial is you, you're a fucking idiot who argues on the level of peregrine: just ignore how your defense just got blown to hell and act like they never responded.
Assuming that the ps2 user has a computer and assuming that they are not running on dial up.. Also it not like you cant look on internet you just have to go to pol menu which is what 5min on off? Also Who say you don't have 2 computer a person with 2 computer can do same thing a person with ps2 and computer/labtop can do. Even though all that beside the point because even if parser could be used for ps2 it would still be a cheat unless give consent by SE to use. Which wont because it is a 3rd party bot program and does harm to the game. Game site on the other hand are sanction by SE so there for are not cheating.
 
hellstorm said:
Which wont because it is a 3rd party bot program and does harm to the game.

You parser = omgcheating people throw that out alot. Still haven't shown how it actually hurts anything though. Unless your an anti-social caveman.
 
hellstorm said:
Also it not like you cant look on internet you just have to go to pol menu which is what 5min on off?


Unfortunantly, they removed templogging when they put shutdown in. I loved temp logging in the pre-windower era. But now you actually have to log completely out of the game, then log completely back in if you're not using windower, and want to check on something. Temp Logging allowed you to go right to POL Viewer, and alt-tab to check, then go right back in to the game, by-passing any character selection, server notification. Just reload the zone you were in.

Shutdown's a great command, no arguement about that from me. I just wish they had kept Temp Logging in too =/
 
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Makelith said:
You parser = omgcheating people throw that out alot. Still haven't shown how it actually hurts anything though. Unless your an anti-social caveman.

It hurts the game because it makes highly desirable gear, even more desirable!
 
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