POLNews - GM Policy (12th December)*Update* - continued from the other thread

[Bajaratt]

And this is how I feel every time you reply to one of my posts. Baja, the great parsed queen of FFXI. Yes I know you are a dude. But you don't get the title of man because you beat off to a video game. Loser.

Oh look, the depleted uranium with a chip on his shoulder showed up; go to fucking Hades already since you can't hack it here.

 

[RoM]

Srsly.

I kid you baja.

 

[hellstorm]

Actually, I just got tired of arguing with idiots whose only reasoning is a blanket definition while ignoring how the far more relevant definitions prove you wrong. Smashing my head against a brick wall would get further than arguing with you guys; but then the brick wall is less dense. RoM isn't my hero or savior(I can argue myself), he's just more willing to argue to death with morons than me.

You're in the company of a retard like Hellstorm, I think that's failing enough.

I feel same way except put uzor where RoM is and Bajaratt where hellstorm is, and switch brick wall with granite. Who giving the blanket definition "it just like pen and paper" Or trying to compare it with SE Sponsored sites like alla and somepage.

 

[Marajade]

I feel same way except put uzor where RoM is and Bajaratt where hellstorm is, and switch brick wall with granite. Who giving the blanket definition "it just like pen and paper" Or trying to compare it with SE Sponsored sites like alla and somepage.

Translation: I know you are but what am I?

Seriously, you're detracting from the point Uzor is trying to make. If you really want to help him out:

 

[Shaunessy]

Oh look, the depleted uranium with a chip on his shoulder showed up; go to fucking Hades already since you can't hack it here.

That's all you got? Calling me "depleted uranium"??? Wow you win this one. Since you didn't give me much to work with, other than your complete lack of smack talking skills, I'll provide you with a list of things "depleted uranium" is used for that is better than your skills at this game.

Depleted uranium has been used in the 30mm armor piercing incendiary round on the A10, the baddest fucking plane known to man, tank killer.

Another use has been in high speed penetrating rounds. Because "depleted uranium" is so hard, at high velocities it breaks though most armor with no problem. And as it drives through the armor it breaks into more, tiny, sharper projectiles. Giving more room for the air to reach the heated metal and start a burn function, which in turn will start a chain reaction withing the target causing it to explode. Granted that is only if the round hit in a vital spot. But even if it didn't I wouldn't want to be close enough to see the actual effects of one inside a tank.

Ofcourse you could also use this on your average baking sheet, atleast I know that I wish you would, so we wouldn't have to listen to your self-righteous ramblings about being the best you can be, when we all know that you don't even live up to your expectations of the rest of the "players" in this made up world.

 

[Uzor]

RoM and Tom. there's several different poker games. The one RoM is arguing about is Stud 8. The one you're arguing about sounds mostly like classic poker.

Texas hold 'em can be card counted too, since you can see more cards. Classic poker is rather difficult to card count since you can only count your own cards.

In stud 8, every player gets 5 cards on hand, with 2 cards placed in front of them. The goal is to get the best 5-card hand with the 7 cards you have, or the best lowest hand. Naturally, it's rather easy to count the cards in this situation. With 5 other players, there's a total of 10 cards viewable on the table. Addinf your cards to it gives you 17 cards. So counting cards become easier, sicne you can play the statistics to figure out hwat works best.

In classic poker, you only have your own cards to count. So 5/52 to start becomes harder to count. But I do believe everyone unconsiously plays the statistic in normal poker aswell. I know I do.

In Texas Hold 'em, it's a bit more difficult to count the cards. The rules here are simple. Every player get 2 cards, and 2 are placed on the table. Every player either passes, or goes with the betting. When 3 cards are on the talbe (betting round 2), the players can decide if they want to see the others. If not, the game continues. At the last betting round (4), there's 5 cards on the table.

So counting cards in Texas Hold 'em is also playing the statistics, where you consider your own cards, and the cards currently on the table. Easiest to count cards in is Stud 8, though. Besides, I wouldn't say a roughly 1% edge over other players (which one of the links you provided stated) will make much of a difference in a game that's mostly about luck. Granted some skills are required, but luck is still a huge part of it. Even card counting, you'll still have the same cards as oyu otherwise would in Stud 8, so the only edge card counting gives is to know that the propability that you have a higher/lower/better hand then someone else, and even then you can be unlucky that the lowest probability was the correct one. Counting cards won't suddenly give you a 100% chance to win like in Black Jack (Well, not even then, but it have a huger impact on Black Jack)

So you're both right. Stop arguing about card counting already, geez. RoM were talking about Stud 8, and Tom were talking about classic poker. Problem solved. Can we move on?

 

[Shaunessy]

RoM and Tom. there's several different poker games. The one RoM is arguing about is Stud 8. The one you're arguing about sounds mostly like classic poker.

Texas hold 'em can be card counted too, since you can see more cards. Classic poker is rather difficult to card count since you can only count your own cards.

In stud 8, every player gets 5 cards on hand, with 2 cards placed in front of them. The goal is to get the best 5-card hand with the 7 cards you have, or the best lowest hand. Naturally, it's rather easy to count the cards in this situation. With 5 other players, there's a total of 10 cards viewable on the table. Addinf your cards to it gives you 17 cards. So counting cards become easier, sicne you can play the statistics to figure out hwat works best.

In classic poker, you only have your own cards to count. So 5/52 to start becomes harder to count. But I do believe everyone unconsiously plays the statistic in normal poker aswell. I know I do.

In Texas Hold 'em, it's a bit more difficult to count the cards. The rules here are simple. Every player get 2 cards, and 2 are placed on the table. Every player either passes, or goes with the betting. When 3 cards are on the talbe (betting round 2), the players can decide if they want to see the others. If not, the game continues. At the last betting round (4), there's 5 cards on the table.

So counting cards in Texas Hold 'em is also playing the statistics, where you consider your own cards, and the cards currently on the table. Easiest to count cards in is Stud 8, though.

So you're both right. Stop arguing about card counting already, geez. RoM were talking about Stud 8, and Tom were talking about classic poker. Problem solved. Can we move on?

I have a buddy that could tell you the 6th card drawn from a freshly shuffled deck. He is in Vegas now making a killing as a floor man, and he proves that you don't even need to see the cards to count them. Some people are just blessed I guess.

 

[Uzor]

I have a buddy that could tell you the 6th card drawn from a freshly shuffled deck. He is in Vegas now making a killing as a floor man, and he proves that you don't even need to see the cards to count them. Some people are just blessed I guess.

I'd love to meet him <.<; He could teach me something xD Maybe he's like Hiro in the TV show "Heroes" and can freez time >.>

 

[Shaunessy]

I'd love to meet him <.<; He could teach me something xD Maybe he's like Hiro in the TV show "Heroes" and can freez time >.>

Naa, he was just a normal Pittsburgher that had a dream of going to vegas and making money. Dude is good though, I never bet against him, well after he took my first $100, then I never bet against him.

 

[Tomasello]

Ladies and Gentlemen, i introduce to you, Peregrine V2. Unfortunatly, we were unable to install actualy intelegince into this one.

Your as bad as the other troll Garvin except I think I'd rather be called a fucking moron then a Peregrine wannabe. It's less of an insult.

Considering your LS contains a shameless botter maybe on the topic of cheating you should keep your mouth shut.

What's Chronicles up to? 8/16 Fafnir's single-handedly out of 150-200 campers? Just luck I guess huh?

 

[Jereme]

Tomasello when your shell is done wiping to KS99 Behemoth and Jailer of Justice come back and talk about end game shit. It is funny how much you want to claim Chronicles bots but with that thread that was going on for claims. Noone other then Pers was providing screen shots of claims. With the perfect chance to try and prove someone claims as much as you all say they do you didn't post jack shit other then "Give me my props for my fafnir claim".

 

[Tomasello]

they do you didn't post jack shit other then "Give me my props for my fafnir claim".

I beat a bot to a claim. I did want my props, it's not often someone beats a computer program at claiming.

Who do you think Boticles is Pete Townsend? "Ya I don't bot, all those screen shots of me discussing botting timers was, um, you know research, ya research."

He has a 0.6% chance roughly of claiming fafnir and he did it 8 fucking times out of 16. If it looks like shit and smells like shit well you fill in the blank.

GTFO...

 

[Jereme]

Tomasello I could easily make a SS on MSN of you and me talking about botting if you would like to prove that you bot. Yeah MSN so reliable.

 

[Tomasello]

Tomasello I could easily make a SS on MSN of you and me talking about botting if you would like to prove that you bot. Yeah MSN so reliable.

If all there was, was some Screenshots and you told me they were fake. Ya maybe I'd give the guy the benefit of the doubt. Why not? Look at the fucking track record that shit speaks for itself. Reality check please.

 

[Jereme]

Track record of who the person who made the chatlogs? Necro yeah thats a 100% trustworthy source.

 

[Bajaratt]

That's all you got? Calling me "depleted uranium"??? Wow you win this one. Since you didn't give me much to work with, other than your complete lack of smack talking skills, I'll provide you with a list of things "depleted uranium" is used for that is better than your skills at this game.

Depleted uranium has been used in the 30mm armor piercing incendiary round on the A10, the baddest fucking plane known to man, tank killer.

Another use has been in high speed penetrating rounds. Because "depleted uranium" is so hard, at high velocities it breaks though most armor with no problem. And as it drives through the armor it breaks into more, tiny, sharper projectiles. Giving more room for the air to reach the heated metal and start a burn function, which in turn will start a chain reaction withing the target causing it to explode. Granted that is only if the round hit in a vital spot. But even if it didn't I wouldn't want to be close enough to see the actual effects of one inside a tank.

Ofcourse you could also use this on your average baking sheet, atleast I know that I wish you would, so we wouldn't have to listen to your self-righteous ramblings about being the best you can be, when we all know that you don't even live up to your expectations of the rest of the "players" in this made up world.

I see my "smack talk" went right over your head, not surprised. In my post that you quoted, I said that they were more dense than a brick wall; in my response to you, I said you were as dense as depleted uranium(ie. more stupid that the others). I know what that stuff is(even knew it was used for warthog rounds), and that it's one of the most dense materials on earth, sorry that you couldn't even get it.

How's that chip, eh? :thumbsup:

 

[Marajade]

That's all you got? Calling me "depleted uranium"??? Wow you win this one. Since you didn't give me much to work with, other than your complete lack of smack talking skills, I'll provide you with a list of things "depleted uranium" is used for that is better than your skills at this game.

Depleted uranium has been used in the 30mm armor piercing incendiary round on the A10, the baddest fucking plane known to man, tank killer.

Another use has been in high speed penetrating rounds. Because "depleted uranium" is so hard, at high velocities it breaks though most armor with no problem. And as it drives through the armor it breaks into more, tiny, sharper projectiles. Giving more room for the air to reach the heated metal and start a burn function, which in turn will start a chain reaction withing the target causing it to explode. Granted that is only if the round hit in a vital spot. But even if it didn't I wouldn't want to be close enough to see the actual effects of one inside a tank.

Ofcourse you could also use this on your average baking sheet, atleast I know that I wish you would, so we wouldn't have to listen to your self-righteous ramblings about being the best you can be, when we all know that you don't even live up to your expectations of the rest of the "players" in this made up world.

Psst. Uranium is a highly dense metal. One of the densest. Its quite DENSE.
Get it? Good.

 

[Uzor]

I beat a bot to a claim. I did want my props, it's not often someone beats a computer program at claiming.

Who do you think Boticles is Pete Townsend? "Ya I don't bot, all those screen shots of me discussing botting timers was, um, you know research, ya research."

He has a 0.6% chance roughly of claiming fafnir and he did it 8 fucking times out of 16. If it looks like shit and smells like shit well you fill in the blank.

GTFO...

Well, in Chronicles defence, those screasnhots could have easily been photo shopped. I could make screenshots like that too.

Additionally, if they are real, they could have been taken at a bad time. Like Perseverance talking about bots in other LS, and Necrosis screenshotting them to use them against him.

Hell, I never botted or hacked once, but considering I was one of the people that knew about it, and the ones that did it talked about it, I'm sure I could answer questions about it too. So if someone screenshotted me answering questions about it, and then posted them on QCDN, I'm sure everyone would think I'm a hacker too. The screenshots Necrosis provided were rather taken out of context. And without the context, you can turn it in to whatever way you want.

I'm not saying Chronicles doesn't hack, and I'm not saying he does. I'm just saying that it IS possible it goes either way. Especially considering WHO posted the screenshots.

 

[RoM]

RoM and Tom. there's several different poker games. The one RoM is arguing about is Stud 8. The one you're arguing about sounds mostly like classic poker.

Texas hold 'em can be card counted too, since you can see more cards. Classic poker is rather difficult to card count since you can only count your own cards.

In stud 8, every player gets 5 cards on hand, with 2 cards placed in front of them. The goal is to get the best 5-card hand with the 7 cards you have, or the best lowest hand. Naturally, it's rather easy to count the cards in this situation. With 5 other players, there's a total of 10 cards viewable on the table. Addinf your cards to it gives you 17 cards. So counting cards become easier, sicne you can play the statistics to figure out hwat works best.

In classic poker, you only have your own cards to count. So 5/52 to start becomes harder to count. But I do believe everyone unconsiously plays the statistic in normal poker aswell. I know I do.

In Texas Hold 'em, it's a bit more difficult to count the cards. The rules here are simple. Every player get 2 cards, and 2 are placed on the table. Every player either passes, or goes with the betting. When 3 cards are on the talbe (betting round 2), the players can decide if they want to see the others. If not, the game continues. At the last betting round (4), there's 5 cards on the table.

So counting cards in Texas Hold 'em is also playing the statistics, where you consider your own cards, and the cards currently on the table. Easiest to count cards in is Stud 8, though. Besides, I wouldn't say a roughly 1% edge over other players (which one of the links you provided stated) will make much of a difference in a game that's mostly about luck. Granted some skills are required, but luck is still a huge part of it. Even card counting, you'll still have the same cards as oyu otherwise would in Stud 8, so the only edge card counting gives is to know that the propability that you have a higher/lower/better hand then someone else, and even then you can be unlucky that the lowest probability was the correct one. Counting cards won't suddenly give you a 100% chance to win like in Black Jack (Well, not even then, but it have a huger impact on Black Jack)

So you're both right. Stop arguing about card counting already, geez. RoM were talking about Stud 8, and Tom were talking about classic poker. Problem solved. Can we move on?

I was talking about like, whatever card game you want really. But that works.

If there's 52 in a deck and you play them, it can be counted. Period.

That aside, much obliged. A useful post, novel shit. Hat's off to you. The point is it's not cheating nor is it illegal, as tom's example boasted. Nothing more, the rest was me being pissed because the dipshit wanted to tell me you can only count in blackjack. I was taken aback by the ignorance.

Everyone continue with the derail. GG tom :thumbsup:. Now the rest of us can really be done with this crap

 

[Tomasello]

If there's 52 in a deck and you play them, it can be counted.

Your so full of shit it's annoying.


Let's Recap:

The casino uses a number of decks in what's called a 'sleeve' or a 'shoe'. Only one deck is played at a time but there's not telling what your odds are if you come in in the middle of a sleeve.

Your arguement was the other decks in the sleeve somehow affect the current odds of the deck you were playing with at the table.


I told you:

Each deck IS INDEPENDENT IN PROBABILITY of the rest of the decks.

Don't be a fucking liar. I thought you were better then that.

The point is it's not cheating nor is it illegal, as tom's example boasted.

Illegal never escaped my lips. You fail again, good luck finding the quote. For some reason I can find quotes all day long of your ignorance.


You trying to save face is just sad considering you got served like the cat in my avatar.