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This thread is about pop. Not your little sister's pop, but about pop back when pop was a real medium, rather than a spectacle - back when it had something to say.

So the question: What's your favorite group of the genre, and why?

For me, the answer is easy. I love Big Star.

Big Star embodies the image of pop (and rock) in my mind. Pop is a difficult genre to describe, so it's hard to say why I feel this way, but to put it simply I suppose it's because they're such a well rounded group. Pop's subject matter chronicles everything from the heights of bliss to the depths of disdain - its attitude, from naive idealism, to biting pragmitism. Big Star envelopes all of these aspects powerfully, both in their music, and in their history.

In their first release, #1 Record, you see this huge drift in the songwriting styles of Chris Bell and Alex Chilton. They give us introspection and power, respectively. Listen to 'Thirteen,' from this, if you haven't, and you'll likely find the song irresistable. It's a ballad about teenage love, and love of rock & roll. Overall, the record has a great balance, and it's one of my favorites.

Their second release, Radio City, sees Chilton as the sole songwriter. Bell left the group due to indescrepencies (perhaps related to direction differences, as well as his discovered homosexuality,) and Chilton's forthrightness is center stage. He sings and plays with an intensity that makes me wonder if he's trying to prove something to Bell. This record probably invented power pop.

Their final release was never widely available, until the late 90s. Chilton was at the helm again. Think of him as a sort of Syd Barret, and this record as his opus. The album is, by all means, a wreck. It's attitude is generally downtrotten, but has a few positive gems, such as 'Stroke It Noel.' The song 'Holocaust,' however, is probably the bleakest thing ever written. Big Star was falling apart at this point, but the album retains the straight-foreward eloquence of the band, and adds a dash of pretention.

Sorry for stretching this out, talking about each album, but I think it's necessary in understanding my respect for the group. To me, pop rock's beauty is its sort of jubilant, communal celebration of what’s grimy and great about life, and I think Big Star is a perfect example of this.

My personal favorite songs are Life is White, Stroke It Noel, Thirteen, The Ballad of el Goodo, Holocaust, and their cover of the Velvet Underground's Femme Fatale (I think it's better.) I reccomend you check these out.
 
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You guys are lame. >>

I should change the title to, "Opportunity to inconspiciously post simply the names of bands that will make you cool by association," or maybe, "Musssiiiicc!! Pt. 2," in hopes of creating a successor to our most popular thread. :P

I joke.
 
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Ok I'll bite. As most people know I generally HATE HATE HATE pop music, however I do like pop music from Japan because it is actually decent, the lyrics are awesome and don't have anything to do with partying, sex, getting drunk or bling bling.

If everywhere else in the world could follow Japan's example on how to do pop music, I might have some respect for it. imo.
 
Smash Mouth, pre selftitled.

Because they were actually good. XD
 
Two words: Boy bands.

I still like listening to bubblegum pop from a decade ago. Boy bands and Britney Spears before she got all trashy and simple catchy singles are nice to listen to sometimes.

Ok I'll bite. As most people know I generally HATE HATE HATE pop music, however I do like pop music from Japan because it is actually decent, the lyrics are awesome and don't have anything to do with partying, sex, getting drunk or bling bling.

If everywhere else in the world could follow Japan's example on how to do pop music, I might have some respect for it. imo.

Just because you haven't heard it, doesn't mean there isn't pop music like that. Like every other country in the world, Japan has shitty music.
 
Sadly, i have a thing for NEW pop/"punk" music.
All Time Low (Toured with them)
The Dangerous Summer

A lot more, i can mass post them lol.
 
The song 'Holocaust,' however, is probably the bleakest thing ever written. Big Star was falling apart at this point, but the album retains the straight-foreward eloquence of the band, and adds a dash of pretention.
Listen to This Mortal Coil's version of Holocaust, it's pretty good.
 
Just because you haven't heard it, doesn't mean there isn't pop music like that. Like every other country in the world, Japan has shitty music.

I have yet to find a J-Pop song or J-Pop group I dislike, so far I love all the j-pop I hear.
 
I'm willing to bet you only like that kind of music because it's from japan and not for any lyrical value much less musical value because all of those songs sound the same: whiney bitches yelling their lungs out about some cat robot that shoots lasers out of its large eyes and plays some card game that has lethal effects on the players. I mean, I don't know when is that last time I considered theme music from cartoons genuine music.
 
I'm willing to bet you only like that kind of music because it's from japan and not for any lyrical value much less musical value because all of those songs sound the same: whiney bitches yelling their lungs out about some cat robot that shoots lasers out of its large eyes and plays some card game that has lethal effects on the players. I mean, I don't know when is that last time I considered theme music from cartoons genuine music.

Ok, granted I don't understand a single word of Japanese, that's why I read translations, and I have to say that Japanese songs have more meaning than American or European pop songs.

Case in point:

Rhythm Emotion from Gundam Wing by TWO MIX
Anything made by TM Revolution
Anything made by Aya Hirano (Especially Hare hare Yuki and Motteke! Sērāfuku from Haruhi and Lucky Star)
Flying in the Sky and Trust you Forever from G Gundam by Hitofumi Ushima
O2 from Code Geass R2 by Orange Range
Colors and World End from Code Geass and Code Geass R2 by FLOW
Hitomi no tsubasa from Code Geass by Access

Just to name a few.

And don't get me started on the J-pop that has been aired on other large anime such as One Piece, Naruto, and every other opener and ending song from any Gundam series, there are just far too many to count now. Also not forgetting the J-pop in most video games from Japan, there are a lot of songs from Japanese release games, I know that Tales of symphonia had TWO opening songs for the subsequent releases of the game for the Gamecube and PS2 releases.

Btw, I HAVEN'T seen Yu-Gi-Oh in Japanese yet, I (Unfortunately) watched the 4kids dub when I was around 14 and hadn't discovered more anime over the internet.

Thing is, I can never find any catchy pop songs in American or European culture, to me, they are all shit until proven otherwise, and its very hard to get me to like Pop that is from America or Europe.

To further prove my point, take a listen to these:

Rhythm Emotion by Two Mix from Gundam Wing



Flying in the Sky by Hitofumi Ushima from G Gundam



Musician sung by Sanae Kobayashi from D Gray Man (Sorry, no full version yet) btw SPOILERS!



and Changin by Stephanie (Yes she is Japanese, honest!)



Even if there is some shred of hope for American and European pop, I still think that J-Pop pwns all other pop.
 
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Ok, granted I don't understand a single word of Japanese, that's why I read translations, and I have to say that Japanese songs have more meaning than American or European pop songs.

Case in point:

Rhythm Emotion from Gundam Wing by TWO MIX
Anything made by TM Revolution
Anything made by Aya Hirano (Especially Hare hare Yuki and Motteke! Sērāfuku from Haruhi and Lucky Star)
Flying in the Sky and Trust you Forever from G Gundam by Hitofumi Ushima
O2 from Code Geass R2 by Orange Range
Colors and World End from Code Geass and Code Geass R2 by FLOW
Hitomi no tsubasa from Code Geass by Access

Just to name a few.

And don't get me started on the J-pop that has been aired on other large anime such as One Piece, Naruto, and every other opener and ending song from any Gundam series, there are just far too many to count now. Also not forgetting the J-pop in most video games from Japan, there are a lot of songs from Japanese release games, I know that Tales of symphonia had TWO opening songs for the subsequent releases of the game for the Gamecube and PS2 releases.

Btw, I HAVEN'T seen Yu-Gi-Oh in Japanese yet, I (Unfortunately) watched the 4kids dub when I was around 14 and hadn't discovered more anime over the internet.

Thing is, I can never find any catchy pop songs in American or European culture, to me, they are all shit until proven otherwise, and its very hard to get me to like Pop that is from America or Europe.

To further prove my point, take a listen to these:

Rhythm Emotion by Two Mix from Gundam Wing



Flying in the Sky by Hitofumi Ushima from G Gundam



Musician sung by Sanae Kobayashi from D Gray Man (Sorry, no full version yet) btw SPOILERS!



and Changin by Stephanie (Yes she is Japanese, honest!)



Even if there is some shred of hope for American and European pop, I still think that J-Pop pwns all other pop.

Aren't you the Dragonforce guy?
 
I'm quite fond of Inner Universe by Origa. Love it.. truely I do.. some of it is english some of its.. well I dont exsactly know. Song was the opening for ghost in the shell stand alone. If you havent heard it.. find it :)
 
I'm quite fond of Inner Universe by Origa. Love it.. truely I do.. some of it is english some of its.. well I dont exsactly know. Song was the opening for ghost in the shell stand alone. If you havent heard it.. find it :)

Heard it. Loved it. Its incredible how haunting it sounds, it just sticks.
 
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