Post Count +2!!!

[Sculli]

I think some of you are confused.

To those who are new, or read the flameboard infrequently, this isn't about Keits calling me retarded, this happened before and this is the flameboard after all where anyone is entitled to namecalling. For reference also see: Sculli is retarded.

This is about post count bumping.

There are a couple issues about post count bumping. It does take up resources, which are limited. The resource issue is currently not a problem because the current hosting plan does allow for 100 GB traffic, and we are still way under that.

The other issue relating to post count bumping is that it creates noise for users who are actually interested in a thread. Effectivly a small number of users fills up a thread with "+1" posts, making it not worth the time of those who actually want to read or contribute to the thread to sift through all the "+1" for actual content.

The Keits saw that I was in support of Nyahoho's remark that the whole "+1" thing is getting old, and he knowingly choose to publicly demonstrate that he doesn't give a shit.

To some his post may have been incredibly funny, to me it was the wrong thing to spost at the wrong time, and while I extremely rarely excercise admin powers, I feel that this particular case called for it.

Keits account has been temporarily set to 'inactive', call it ban if you like (though a ban would have been to delete the user, add it to the "not allowed username"-list, and actually ban an IP, or IP range), the result is the same, he can't view or post (unless he's using Naff's account).

Compared to other message boards QCDN has very few rules (read for yourself: Guidelines for Forum Use Within, and most all of them are not strictly enforced.

Perhaps that is a mistake, maybe things would be a bit more orderly if the mods and myself would rigorously enforce the rules on a daily basis. I do believe some basic rules are necessary, and I do believe that as long as not sticking to the rules 100% all the time doesn't disrupt the board, it is not necessary to be uptight about it.

When things do get out of hand, as I believe post count bumping did, action is necessary. Action was taken, and you see the results. This board has been around since April 3rd 2004, we have over 800 registered users, and over 22,000 posts to date, and now we have a temoprarily banned user. From a statistics point of view this is an outstanding accomplishment.

Be that as it may, The Keits will be welcome to return to QCDN in the near future, no hard feelings.

 

[Sculli]

If this post +1 thing has been such a problem why hasnt sculli gone and installed a board mod that puts a 25-60 second posting interval inbetween a users post in an area of the board.

Honest answer; Because I didn't think that I have to waste my time on shit like that. It's not too much to ask that people don't abuse the system, or so I thought.

 

[Falkner]

Ok, so focusing in on an individual oooooooooo, lets say Keits, is better than punishing others for doing the relatively same thing?

Keits rags on sculli because sculli rags on him. where was sculli to bring down Xcalade a notch? and roofie? more than likely playing deeper and deeper into Keits' game of "I bet i can piss you off enough to make you look bad".

So before someone replies to this and continues this endless circle of Keits/Sculli, go look at the goblin in the cage at the goblin shop in low jeuno, then come back and see if you care aobut this anymore.

P.S while your there look at the goblin stirring the big soup pot. he rocks.

 

[Desini]

in that case, i find you justified... i didn't think this board had a stated post limit, people seem to doublepost alot.... *shrugs*


however i would suggust some kind of board where posts didn't go towards the post count. i'd give you links with examples but i don't want to go advertising other boards (not sarcastic, i'm serious.)

 

[Falkner]

So Sculli if there are some basic rules to be enforced, why not indulge us and tell what they are, before anyone else has to get put to "inactive".

 

[Sculli]

Ok, so focusing in on an individual oooooooooo, lets say Keits, is better than punishing others for doing the relatively same thing?

Relative speaking it is not optimal to focus on an individual.
However, for all practical purposes that is just the way it is.
Again, you need to consider the timeline, people were asked not to post count bump anymore. Someone goes out, after reading the request, and does it anyway. Draw your own conclusions.

Should there be more post count bumpers, then their post counts will be locked.

This is really a question about usefulness. There tends to be actual content on the boards, even the Flameboard, and "+1" dilutes that content, sometimes to a degree that you can't even follow the thread anymore, and I simply won't have that.

So Sculli if there are some basic rules to be enforced, why not indulge us and tell what they are, before anyone else has to get put to "inactive".

No offense, but if you read the guidelines posted on the board, and, if you were a post count bumper, the "Post Count +1!!!!" thread, then you will know everything there is to know about it. I will update the guidelines section to include the post count issue shortly.

Again, the "+1" issue is not about moredating the Flameboard for content, it is to keep white noise out of the flameboard, and QCDN in general.

 

[naffenu]

So its perfectly ok for Xcalade or Roofie to post some meaningless drivel in an attempt to rile up the entire flameboard, and you consider that adding to the community?? I'm just absolutely intrigued.

 

[Rudger]

Okay, fair enough. I guess the post count+1 thing is a little annoying.

I know a few forums that have flameboards and they made it so that section didn't add to your total Post count. Why don't you set it like that, and be done with it? wouldn't ever happen again.

 

[Falkner]

i don't think people are really doing these mindless posts to make there posts higher :s , but ou never know.

i just see it from Keits' point of view that he was trying to get a point across, even if the point was meaningless ^^

 

[Sculli]

So its perfectly ok for Xcalade or Roofie to post some meaningless drivel in an attempt to rile up the entire flameboard, and you consider that adding to the community?? I'm just absolutely intrigued.

Naff, you know better. Of course it is not ok, and this is the time that something is being done about it, however, I can hardly go back, and read through every single of the 22k posts on this board to see who ever did post count bump.

From now on there will be a more stringent watch for post count bumpers, should the above engage in post count bumping then their post counts will be frozen.

Is it fair to suspend The Keits over something a lot of others did in the past as well while those others go unpunished? Probably not, but then again life isn't fair. Let it be know that I am really not discriminating against Keits here, I would have suspended anyone else had someone else made that post, it just so happened to be The Keits.

 

[Sculli]

I know a few forums that have flameboards and they made it so that section didn't add to your total Post count. Why don't you set it like that, and be done with it?

Because, oddly enough, post count bumping isn't limited to the Flameboard.

 

[Rudger]

no, you're right, but the rest of the forum should abide by that rule. it shouldn't matter, here.

 

[naffenu]

Keits on Naff's account;

The bulk of you are fucking retarded and presumptuous.

Post Count +1 IS NOT A COMPETITION. ITS A GOD DAMN RUNNING JOKE. IT MAKES SOME PEOPLE GIGGLE.

Sculli, having his head FIRMLY lodged up his anus, doesnt like this joke. It does not make him giggle.

Sculli locks a thread on the no-rules-flameforum because he is tired of this 'joke'.

I thought I could get a few laughs with this post, and instead I get banned by Champion No-Wit himself, the owner of the forum, Sculli.

JOKE JOKE JOKE JOKE JOKE JOKE JOKE JOKE JOKE.

NOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY.


In fact, this is only the 2nd time ive participated in this Post-Count joke. The people doing this across multiple forums and in dozens of threads ARNT BANNED! DO YOU KNOW WHY?

If this thread was a joke making fun of, oh, say Tyrion, would I be banned? How about if I made a 3-post topic making fun of Daroth? Banned? Sabia? Banned? NO NO NO.


Faulkner; your 'support' on the 'meaningless issue' is absolutely hillarious. You say my 'opinions' are usually wrong. Hey buddy... opinions cant be wrong. You may not like them, but if that makes them 'wrong' to you, then you have serious superiority issues.

So, you go on to repeatedly call me and this post stupid, yet rabidly support the issue that has arrisen by this amazing abuse of stature. You also go on to repeatedly remind everyone that you dont like me, and say that im a 'jackass'. While you are entitled to this 'opinion', I would request that also remove your head from the deep dark cavity of your anus and peek outside the flameforum. FlameForum = Playground. I'm just having a good time.

Sabia; Fuck off. You read two posts where I call people who are acting stupid 'idiots', and suddenly 'keits has not added anything to discussion lately'. Is it trendy, now, to make shit up? What the fuck is wrong with you people? Do you ride the bus called 'assumption'? Because thats all you are fucking good for.

Honest answer; Because I didn't think that I have to waste my time on shit like that. It's not too much to ask that people don't abuse the system, or so I thought.

Ill do this in bold, just for you;

NO ONE IS ABUSING THE SYSTEM YOU TWAT. THEY ARE JUST HAVING A BIT OF FUN

But you dont agree, so instead of 'Whats fun and What isnt fun' being subjective and up to the viewer, Sculli steps in and BANS people to make sure they agree with him. Ill give you three guesses what I would have done if you would have asked people across all forums to stop the Post-Count +1 thing/joke... NOTHING. But instead, you delivered an ultimatum and locked a thread, esentially taking your ball and going home like a baby.

To anyone that says I act childish:

If by having fun, I am being childish, then I never ever want to grow up and turn into you. Get me?

Lie all you want, Sculli, about why you banned me. My reasoning clearly shows what most of the users here already know. If this were REALLY about the post-count thing, I wouldnt be the only ban, and certainly not the first (as ive only participated, again, in this joke twice). I didnt 'knowingly choose to demonstrate that I dont give a shit'. I chose to attempt to elicit a few laughs, while subtly (or not so) pointing out how rediculous locking the thread and delivering an ultimatum were. This 'joke' was not 'out of hand'. It was three posts that, im guessing, would make more than a few people giggle. I couldnt give two shits about my post count, or my ingame level, etc.

No hard feelings my ass. Why should I want to post on a forum where I am forced to walk on glass to appease some self-richeous admin? Why should I have to fear that If i make the wrong joke, that you might stick a sock in my mouth and cover it with duct tape?

I shouldnt, and neither should any of your users.

You preach about what an 'acomplishment' this forum is... you have a large ammount of users who dont even post. Many of these people have spoken to me in game, saying that they only reason them come is to read my posts. I create something worth reading, or laughing at, weather you like it or not. My wit is sharp, I type quickly, and I have a fuckload of freetime to spend as I please. No longer will it be spent fueling the 'accomplishment' of a complete prick.


I will likely return to read the end of this post, but thats it for me. Fuck you sculli, and fuck the rest of the lot of you for ever judging anyone based solely upon flameforum posts. How dare people like you call me childish.

 

[Tim Wakefield]

To be honest...i always found keits posts to be annoying. The guy that is famous around here for wearing a Sam AF helmet with farming gear, and a thread titled "Possible Keits spotting" may have gotten too much of an ego boost with all the attention and internet dudes kissing his ass (See: Tyrion). I rarely if ever check this flameboard (only came today because i saw daroths sig and wondered what it was about) namely because of the masturbate to keits topics that flow through here so rapidly. Id rather read an 8 page thread full of Roofies splurge than sit thru another "make a keits sig with a different face" rally.

On the other hand....if i was him and was temp banned, i dont think id come back...make a stand for yourself. I guarantee the day he is let back on the forums we will see a wave of "Keits is back!" threads, and he just cant pull himself away from the attention....i vote Sculli, who has provided you all with this board, forum space for your own use, and a major intangable...friends. The least you could all do is stop with the "Post count +1" bullshit for 30 seconds and just enjoy this fucking board. It makes me sick when people get pissy because their sig was nerfed or their idol was banned...just conform to the fucking rules and move on. Sculli provides you with a service...at least respect that and try to go through a day without posting some ridiculous topics on stuff that nobody cares about, and everyone replies to.

 

[Falkner]

Just to clear some things up with Keits, which will more than likely make me quite unfavorable in this forum. I've been supporting your side as much as i could dude, and the only reason in nearly all the posts ive made in this thread i called you names or w/e, was because i didn't want to seem bias.

So everytime i pass u in quetz and i /wave and /salute you, you think i dislike you lol?

Well i just didn't wanna seem like the guy who went TOTALLY on Keits' side, but i love ya Keits, your are the man and my idol for real. rock on. ^^

 

[Daroth]

Well now thats all clear.... how about we all sit down eat some poppped millioncorn and watch a ballista match. hmmmm well it was great while it lasted.

 

[Sculli]

Keits, as much as you may believe it, you don't make this board run, all the users do.

I seems to me that you value your contribution above the one of many others. While I won't deny that controversy makes good news (and follow-up discussion), your total post count was just under 700, of which a bunch was just white noise, and some 700 posts don't look all that mighty considering a total of over 22k, even if some of the 800 registered users have never posted.

I hope this puts things in perspective for you.

As for the rest of your post, we went over all of this before already, joking, growing up, yadda yadda yadda, what needed to be said was said in "Sculli is retarded" and there is really no point to repeat it all here.

 

[Endless]

wow.. getting banned or knowing the guy that got banned = end of the world...

please.. im sure before this banning, most of you knew that he could post on his wife's pc if he needed to... temporary banning isn't harsh at all. more time for keits to do other fun things.

lol @ u guys. :roll:

 

[Ellah]

Keits got banned ?

 

[Tyrion]

To be honest...i always found keits posts to be annoying. The guy that is famous around here for wearing a Sam AF helmet with farming gear, and a thread titled "Possible Keits spotting" may have gotten too much of an ego boost with all the attention and internet dudes kissing his ass (See: Tyrion).

I guess agreeing too much with somebody means I kiss their ass? Please let me know from now on when I'm agreeing with somebody too much, so I can make up shit I don't agree with them about so that I don't kiss their ass.


From this post:

Basically, the thing is this: I have a boring job. To make it less boring, I think about things I'd rather be doing, like playing FFXI, posting on QCDN, or messing around in photoshop. Often (as in the case of the GWB SFTU,) I'll have an idea at work, come home, make it, and then go look for an opportunity to use it. I can't stand having (what I consider to be) a good joke and not telling it. ^_^

As for a lot of [my photoshops] using/agreeing with/otherwise mentioning Keits, well, he posts here a lot, and I tend to agree with him on most things (except, noticably, the "traditional FF" thing.)

I'm getting fucking sick of always being accused of being Keits' asskisser or whatever - sorry, I'll try not to say that I agree with people any more. Thanks for sticking up for me, Tim, is this your knife I see in my back? I guess I just expected a little more consideration from a fellow SotL'er.

As for the whole moderation of the flameboard issue, well:

My opinion is that if you want or plan to moderate the flameboard at all - I mean in any way, even for the slightest thing, even for the most noble reasons - then you really should change those. It's your board, do as you wish, Sculli, but I just just wish you'd make it more open that you will.

PS: Am I going to get in trouble for having "Postcount +1" in my Sig?