Prices going up? Don't blame the crafters yet.

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Seawolf

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Vang, you were bitching about greedy players who undercut prices on AH in one of your earlier posts. Now you're just as bad as they are.



This all happened in one day:

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It's someone bowing, like as a sign of respect to those who may help him.

You can compare it to a knight bowing to a king, and saying something like "my liege, I humbly request your services" yadda yadda.
 
or it's a guy just realizing his fly is down D:

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What the hell does undercutting have to do with greed? Undercutting has to do with gil buying little midgets who do not value their gil and will dump items at any cost so their item sells first and fast.

Im sorry I have the know how, saavy, and more importantly the BALLS which most don't have anymore on the block with the steep ah tax to make profits for myself in the comfort of Jeuno. If anything I am taking advantage of the gil buyers who will pay any price they can to get their hands on a specific item at that time rather than wait a day or two and I do not apologize what so motherfucking ever for it. People talk about playing the AH, I have it down to a science, so sue me :wink:

Damn i thought I made more off the grace ring than that >.<

If the crafters want to keep undercutting that's fine, but I will be there to take advantage of it any chance i get.

I lost 10 million gil to a piece of shit Jap, all bets are off the table now kthnx....
 
Svina said:
Hay vang take advantage of sniper rings please 8)


Hey I jacked up Nomad+1 mantys for you leathercraftin bastards 50k last week and told you about it. You dropped the ball on that one Svina 8)
 
vang said:
Svina said:
Hay vang take advantage of sniper rings please 8)


Hey I jacked up Nomad+1 mantys for you leathercraftin bastards 50k last week and told you about it. You dropped the ball on that one Svina 8)

Never told me :[
 
Heh, this is funny because I was checking the person who bought my ring for 350k so I could laugh a bit. I refuse to jack prices most times. I bought that ring for 300k and put it back up for 300k, despite the recent rise to 350k. So you in turn paid 50k more then you had to...And some other guy pays 85k more then he would have had to if he had just bid on it first. Nice. In the end though, I walk away with 50k more then I planned to, so no complaints here. ^^
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Sorry, I just read the old post again, you didn't say "greed" in it.

Both undercutting and price-jacking are good albeit "cheap" ways to make money. I accept both of them. What amused me is that you blasted the undercutters to hell while you're a price-jacker.

For jacking up the price of the rings I'm going to get: Fuck you lol
You just made my life a bit harder but that won't stop me from getting them.

Btw, would you get pissed if, just for the heck of it, the richest person on the server bought the last E. Bow for 8mil and put it on for 12mil (and some gilbuyers actually buy it)?
 
Seawolf said:
For jacking up the price of the rings I'm going to get: Fuck you lol
You just made my life a bit harder but that won't stop me from getting them.

Btw, would you get pissed if, just for the heck of it, the richest person on the server bought the last E. Bow for 8mil and put it on for 12mil (and some gilbuyers actually buy it)?

First off, there is a HUGE difference between undercutting and price-jacking. Undercutting by a drastic amount w/o disregard for price or loss is a sign of both laziness and disrespect for hard earned gil, and probably a sign of gilbuying too. This is a way to make money. I find it both annoying and inventive at the same time.

Seriously, you people need to get off Vang's cock. This following him around, stalking him and nitpickin at everything is kinda pathetic. Seriously, the only thing that you have accomplished with this thread is that I GAURANTEE at least a handful of people will see this thread and start price jacking on all types of items. I just hope the qcdn server crashes and this thread is lost before too much damage is done.
 
alanon said:
First off, there is a HUGE difference between undercutting and price-jacking. Undercutting by a drastic amount w/o disregard for price or loss is a sign of both laziness and disrespect for hard earned gil, and probably a sign of gilbuying too. This is a way to make money. I find it both annoying and inventive at the same time.

Now slow down there little man! I'm getting tired or this shit. I spend a good deal of time crafting to raise Alchemy and of course always end up with huge amounts of stuff. I made Espadon and Sabe to level at some point and got stuck with tons of them. Now I am sitting on 12 stacks of papillions fireworks. Before that it was Icarus Wings, you think that stuff sells fast? Hell no!!!! So yeah, I'm going to undercut the price because I need the space and the money to continue leveling my craft.

Does that mean I am lazy? Fuck, I spend hours and hours crafting to make it!! I have no respect for hard earn gils? How much freakin time do you think I spend farming or crafting to make up the money in the first place?? Oh, that's right, I must be buying my gil! :roll:
 
/sigh

So what you're saying is that from now on we shouldn't flame Vang anymore regardless of what he does?

But that's besides the point. I have nothing personal against Vang. I could care less if it was you or someone else. It just happened to be Vang who made a thread about undercutters.

With that said, I feel bad for posting this because everyone and their brothers will try this method (this is nothing new to me but I'd never do it). Our server's economy is not as fucked up as others', let's keep it that way. Jacking up the prices will cause more inflation because the law of supply and demand is not fully functional here (because of gilbuyers).
 
Come on Veresko. You are right, it was an unfair, broad generalization. However, tell me you have never once uttered the words "Damn undercutters" when trying to sell your stuff. I have. Im sure every crafter here has as well.

Seawolf, I apoplogize to you as well. It just seems like everyone stalks Vang and every other post is "OMG Vang walks too loud" and every other little nitpickin thing. I dont know the dude. Have never partied with him in game. So I have no interest in him and am just tired of seeing piddly shit on him. I really dont want to hear about Vang again unless he start's MPK'n or does a CFH on KB.
 
alanon said:
Come on Veresko. You are right, it was an unfair, broad generalization. However, tell me you have never once uttered the words "Damn undercutters" when trying to sell your stuff. I have. Im sure every crafter here has as well.

euh.. yeah, I must admit I did :oops: lol

And no problem Seawolf, was my pleasure! :)
 
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