PS3 price cut coming.

Firestreak said:
I said, "If you want to get out of the 360 what you get out of the PS3...."

Dumbass.
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No one wants to, though. Microsoft was smart enough to realize people want a video game console to, you know, play games. Not undercut their own royalties.
 
Oh yeah, to throw some promotions out there too.

$500 - PS3

5 free blu-ray promotion going on.
Deal sony's is doing through their own retail stores... 2 games and extra controller = $50 gift certificate.

So assuming you want a 2nd controller and 2 games altogether it's a pretty good deal.
 
Skaw said:
No one wants to, though. Microsoft was smart enough to realize people want a video game console to, you know, play games. Not undercut their own royalties.
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No one wants to spend $200 for an add-on of the losing format that won't even benefit their games. I'd wager plenty of Xbox owners would be willing to spend another $200 for the add on if it would allow for games that won't fit on a DVD like Metal Gear Solid 4 to be ported over. Or if it'd give Xbox devs more storage space to work with.
 
Fire ok your add ons would make sense. What does not tho is multi plats give ps3 a big enough library to attract people... Are you serious?;; I think sometimes when people say these things they instantly forget that 360 has the dominant line of games for 07. Period. 08 is where Sony will try to step in. Here is the big reality check.. Microsoft for some odd reason..(Call it... Domination if you will..) is not going to stop making games into 08.. If they lead into 07... and just continue at normal pace.. guess what.. They will lead 08... I know why i got my PS3. Because i want to play FF13. 08... I have a PS3 so i can play a game in 08... $200 price drop would be enough to get the people in system limbo maybe to buy a ps3. the library of games for 07 will not. $100 will not. I am sure it will sway system sells to speed up, for gamers who already planned to buy one. Converting people into PS3 buyers. No.
 
The multiplatformss are what would sway someone who doesn't want a 360 towards a PS3. Just for example...

I've got 4 Exclusives>

Resistance
Motorstorm
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
MLB The Show

1 Timed Exclusive
Virtua Fighter 5

And a shitload of multiplatforms-

Oblivian
Godfather
Armored Core 4
Rainbow 6 Vegas
Fight Night Round 3
Enchanted Arms
Spiderman 3
The Darkness

So obviously the multiplatforms are weighing in heavily on my satisfaction with my PS3.

Most of the exclusives are either rare good games that'll move software, or crap that's not good enough to warrant a port. The majority of great games out there are multiplatform, in this respect PS3 is closing the gap and has a solid lineup coming this fall.

$100 may not create a sales spike you think they're going after. It instead will divert some traffic later towards PS3 of people buying in for multiplatform games. Lower price point accompanied by the release of Home and some key games(I'd like to emphasize Socom that nobody ever talks about but has a huge fanbase on the PS2) will push some units stateside.

Then again all we're talking about is the scraps Nintendo leaves behind. Hopefully the Christmas will put some distance between them and total domination(via Halo, Home, GTA4 and the fact that Sony and Microsoft isn't supply constrained and Nintendo is) because quite frankly Nintendo isn't willing to invest any cash into their brand, they're just trying to milk as much as possible.
 
Well we should all be able to agree the PS3 $100 drop will generate no more sales then the 360 3year warranty. They both kinda even it out... again..
 
They're probably around equal values but I'd wager Microsoft isn't going to spread word as well about the warranty since it'll emphasize the shitty reliability. It seems more like something they did to stop a potential class action lawsuit and to add a talking point to people who bash their reliability.
 
And yet the Wii is still quietly bending the 360 and PS3 over.

Here's to SSB Brawl, Metriod Prime 3: Corruption, and Super Mario Galaxy! Dear god please let them be good
 
Ye i cant wait for SSB Brawl, Metroid Prime: Corruption and SM Galaxy! Thing with Nintendo is that the exclusive games is that they are good and real fun to play, not to mention that they are classics! just love Mario, Zelda and Metroid
 
Firestreak said:
I said, "If you want to get out of the 360 what you get out of the PS3...."
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Hardware wise, you're right. However, software is a much, much better selling point. IT is why we buy most consoles and PC's to begin with, right?

You still wont get the quantity of games. We are talkin' about game systems that you play games on, right? There are a lot of good games already out and comming for just the 360. The PS3, not so much. PS3 is getting very late ports we already have and a few new things. Even their list of games for 2008 isn't as big/grand as the 360's. I'd say, from a game players perspective as opposed to a movie buff/display perspective... you're not going to get near the experience out of a PS3 to warrant a purchase. You guys are still playing Resistance, no? We've still got Gears going on but also have plenty of other successful options.

Another thing to factor in is how many people have abandoned their exclusives to Sony and developers now under Microsoft. The main two I can think of right off the bat is the Chrono Cross/FF team and the MGS team. With those heavy hitters jumping ship, if people pay attention closely to their investments, this will make for a lot of concern and make for an easy decision if you're a fan of the devs. or their games.

Also, you don't have to buy the 4 year live package... You can and should only buy one year for less than $60 bucks. No reason to pay for 4 years of something you might not get your money's worth out of. If it wasn't for already having a 1 year subscription, I wouldn't hardly touch it at all with everything I've got going on on WoW, PSU, and PS2 wise.

The PS3 has one perk which is better as a gimmick, Blu-ray. However, I'd bet a good chunk of change most people will consider that no matter the quality of the movie they are watching be it normal, HD, or Blu-ray... you're still getting the very same enjoyment that comes with watching a movie. Games can have gimmicks but movies will ALWAYS just be movies as long as they don't skip :D

While the price is now evening out, there are a lot of other factors still out there that make for important concerns. In my opinion, if Sony doesn't do something big by the first quarter of next year, we'll have another GameCube on our hands but instead of a lot of original titles, it'll be plagued with ports and multi-platform games. Them givin' away and trying to push Blu-ray as the main factor of owning a PS3, which is exactly what they're currently doing, should be a shot to the heart to any PS3 fan.
 
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i think $499 is rather a decent price but i still can see how people still can't value that amount of cash from the ps3.
It is pretty harsh I feel when you compare game library between the ps3 and the xbox 360 when xbox 360 has a 1 year lead. It is like asking a 12 year old kid to solve a differentiation equation. Also, I would say depending on preferences on games. As of right now, I only would like to have 3 xbox 360 games, Trusty bell (Eternal Sonata), THE iDOLM@STER and Gears of War whereas from the ps3, there are more games that I would want to play. That's me... I think there are some games that arent announced yet and I feel that ps3 game library will be awesome by winter. Anyhow, both consoles will give us gamers difficulty in selecting the perfect console hehe.
I would like to stress that after comparing the figures of xbox 360 and ps3, they are bought at the same pace based on their duration. Just that on the same amount of months, PS3 has more JP players and xbox360 US. However both sales are roughly the same.
 
Kirayamato said:
I would like to stress that after comparing the figures of xbox 360 and ps3, they are bought at the same pace based on their duration. Just that on the same amount of months, PS3 has more JP players and xbox360 US. However both sales are roughly the same.
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Even Mr. Harrison himself isn't tryin' to say that.
 
Kira bud... The thing is people cant use the excuse 360 has 1 year advantage... Are you flat out saying the PS3 will never catch up? Because think... In ten years the 360 will still have a 1 year advantage lol. That is the thing, 360 Won its first year, its winning its second and is looking to win the third. So PS3 after 1 year will just absolutly be greater then 360s 2&1/2 year after release games? Eh? That makes sense? No.
 
It's not that unfair to compare them, given that the PS3 has a shitload more games out for it at this point in it's life than the 360 did. Yeah, they're ports or multi-platforms, but it still has plenty of worthwhile games to play, even if all but one are on the 360 too.
 
Well let's talk about exclusives for a minute.

The first big exclusive that 360 got that warrants purchasing the thing?

- Dead Rising

This was in the summer of 06, half a year after the launch.

The first big exclusive PS3 got? Resistance, as a launch title.

PS3 got its second worthwhile exclusive in March, Motorstorm.

360 got its second worthwhile exclusive in late 2006, Gears of War.

PS3 by that time frame will have Drake's, Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, Lair, Ratchet and Clank, Socom and quite possibly Killzone 2.

They both have their timed exlusives: Hello there Virtua Fighter, Haze, Rainbow 6, GRAW 2.

Now 360 is nearing it's next post launch Christmas and we're got Mass Effect, Halo 3 and Blue Dragon as system sellers.

In terms of third party, PS3s are finally actually finishing their games and doing the ports right. In terms of first party As far as the end of the year the PS3 is launching more hits.

In terms of third party, PS3 still has the most 2 important games held exclusive.

The hardware is better. The online is free and it's catching up fast. Then to top it all off, the system is going to hold up better longterm. 360 is held back by DVD. 360 is held back by no standard hard-drive.

So come on, troll all you want here and try and shit on the $100 price drop and spin it your way. But get a fucking clue what you're talking about first.
 
TheOsyris said:
Kira bud... The thing is people cant use the excuse 360 has 1 year advantage... Are you flat out saying the PS3 will never catch up? Because think... In ten years the 360 will still have a 1 year advantage lol. That is the thing, 360 Won its first year, its winning its second and is looking to win the third. So PS3 after 1 year will just absolutly be greater then 360s 2&1/2 year after release games? Eh? That makes sense? No.
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360 is winning? O.o last I saw Wii is bending the 360 over and giving it an ass raping XD (as well as the PS3).

As for a year or so? I dunno, honestly, 360 did have more games since it was released earlier and more time for developers to learn how to use it (also it seems PS3 is harder to program for so it's taking a bit to get developers to learn to program with it). So time is a factor, but only for so long. I'd say it's getting closer to that point where the 1 year advantage isn't becoming a viable excuse.

And so far it seems most are agreeing that PS3 does get you more for its money come hardware/whatnot but 360 has a larger library. So.. no reason to argue over that.

And as for the Nintendo games, Zelda's fun but really wasn't hard (that's why I'm fine just playing it at a friend's than buying it myself), Mario's been the same old boring piece of shit for years now, Metroid's been the only Nintendo series that actually seems to be improving greatly from one game to the next :P SSB is fun but only for so long (most fighter games are boring pretty quick I say). But ya... I'm really hoping more third party companies get involved, as it seems they have been bit by bit but most third party game developers are still more focused on PS3 and 360 from what I've seen.

And Microsoft does seem to be switching rolls with Sony this time around. Last time Sony was far more RPG oriented and whatnot but this times around it seems Micorosft has more RPGs (so far). But ya, still gonna have to wait and see how things go. I'd still say it's better to wait until about 2008 to see if PS3 will continue to be where it is now (like.. mostly multi-platform games being what's good on it and most exclusives being mediocre with only one or two gems here and there) as well as seeing where 360 is. Though I wonder, Wii sells more consoles, that's obvious, but which system sells the most games, from what I've seen most Wii owners still only own like 2-3 games at most where many 360 and PS3 owners own about 5+ games already (360 owners especially :P)
 
Elemmire said:
Mario's been the same old boring piece of shit for years now
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Are you really that fucking retarded? The main Mario series added different elements every installment to change gameplay or added previously unaddable puzzles, post SNES.

By your logic, Final Fantasy is the same old boring piece of shit(I agree there.)

Ratchet and Clank is the same old boring piece of shit.

Metal Gear Solid is the same old boring piece of shit.

Every Atlus/Nippon Ichi TRPG is the same old boring piece of shit.

Are you honestly saying Sonys big flagship products are the same old boring piece of shit, or are you(very likely) flying under double standards?
 
well Mario 64 was fucking awesome.

Super Mario Sunshine was the same exact shit but made worse with that water pack. I got sick of it after 10 stars or so.

I won't make judgment on Mario Galaxy until I play it. I think as gamers we can give Mario the benefit of the doubt even after 1 stinker. However if it's the same shit as Mario64 but with motion sensor controls and nothing else really changed... off with its head!

Mario 1 and 3 were good. Snes Mario was great. Mario 64 was a fucking masterpiece. Let's see something new.
 
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