Question about Bst and the new update

Morari

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Did you guys really get screwed over? Or is it business as usual?

I did notice that SE did make a note of some bst issue at this link. And that seems to be a viable solution... but my bst is only 9 and I haven't had much practice with Charming yet.
 
Yes, they did. People will be saying lolbst now instead of loldrg. ; ;
 
Morari said:
Did you guys really get screwed over? Or is it business as usual?

I did notice that SE did make a note of some bst issue at this link. And that seems to be a viable solution... but my bst is only 9 and I haven't had much practice with Charming yet.

Great the pet may disappear but he'll run back to you from half a zone away, just to disappear at the midway point because you're a corpse and charm has dropped.
 
Morari said:
Did you guys really get screwed over? Or is it business as usual?

I did notice that SE did make a note of some bst issue at this link. And that seems to be a viable solution... but my bst is only 9 and I haven't had much practice with Charming yet.


I thought screwed over WAS buisness as usual for BST? o_o
 
BST have crabs.
 
definetely

yes, big time. As if finding good exp spots and not having to compete with npc levelers/parties/farmers/other BST wasn't hard enough, with the new mpk prevention system BST has lost efficient soloability in a large portion of leveling spots.

What alot of current BST's aren't acknowledging is that this is the second SE update to hurt us, exp wise. Opening dungeons up to npc levelers, mamed us. This one basically killed us. The npc deal was unintentional, this one was telegraphed, probably why they waited so long to announce it.

The jug pet updates proove SE knew what they were doing. It was kind of like a bribe to shut us up. Unfortunately it wasn't a decent bribe, it was a crap one. if they updated jug pets to hit like an even challenge, then they might be on to something

BST wasn't designed as a party character, even with the best gear possible we look like crap in a party, jug pets are next to worthless except when there are no other alternatives or we are farming. Our own DD pales in comparison to any other melee, this isn't being dramatic, this is comming from a BST with excellent DD gear, Haubergeon, assault earring, etc. We gain tp slow, we have no useful abilities or traits for a party. We are a 100% solo job, it's the way SE made us. This is also the reason endgame is so hard on us.

BST was already the 2nd least popular job in the game and it seemed to be finally gathering a little bit of popularity. Now,unless this is rectified, we will be least popular. It was a job that you were proud to level, cause you knew every bit of exp you fought for tooth and nail.

Keep fighting fellow BST, e-mail SE, use there website, it must be made clear this is an unacceptable change.

Thefonz
68BST/WHM.... never lfp
 
I think this is going to be like the RNG gimp... not much of a gimp, just more of a "time to figure out a new way". Things will be a little tougher, granted, but for those folks who can't handle the change SE did make it easier for BST to PT with jug-pets. Not to mention, as it's been said like like 30 posts, BST aren't bad PT members, they just need to know what/when to charm in order to not affect XP.

edit: talking to SE might do very little. Unfortunately, you'll need to blame those who think it's ok to MPK anyone, and have used BST to do so. I do feel for you guys (some of my good friends are BSTs). Anyhow, g'luck to you guys. I will invite BSTs seeking if I ever stop being lazy and make a PT <.<
 
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Just be happy SE did somthing beneficial at the same time. RNG didnt get an upgrade along with our nerf. Your jug pets no longer count towards exp loss, the price of which will probably go down now that they're easier to obtain materials for, AND your Reward ability now adds a regen.

Lvl up that NIN sub on BST guys, BST/NIN with an HQ jug pet is more damage than a warrior when added together. And now that jug pet doesnt cut from party exp, so theres no reason not to EXP in a normal party now.

"just gotta find new tactics" "you'll adapt in time" "Oh boo hoo, live with it" The phrases said to the rangers now being said to the Beastmasters. Welcome to the club, pull up a chair, and we can all be nerfed together.
 
I'm happy I'm a cook. I checked earlier and jugs are going up in price - they made ingredients easier to obtain for those no one really uses - and pet food has doubled. Enjoy.
 
I'm about 95% sure I'm going to abandon bst at 52 and just sell off my gear.
 
Rappa said:
I'm about 95% sure I'm going to abandon bst at 52 and just sell off my gear.

Ditto...

And Fonz, buddy, /clap...
I'm with ya, but if they keep it this way, i'm out of bst as solo...

Cheers
 
Zimzum says he doesnt want to be a PT bst then/now/ever!(well maybe merits) I have no desire to sit and wait for hours LFP only to end up in a noobish party that disbands after first fight because things didn't go perfect on first mob. I have good gear but will not take shit from anyone who talks down on me for not haveing that ubber god like item +3:nono: . I like the fact that I can exp on my own time, take a piss whenever i feel like it, and not worry about ruining a chain. Getting BST to 75, solo. to me was the only REAL feeling of accomplishment in this game anymore. Its not a job like bard that you can get to 75 in 3 weeks. Ill give SE till the end of next month to work this out and make tweaks to the system. I am keeping an eye out for another mmorpg that appeals to me and maybe I can talk some LS members to try it out with me as well.
 
Marajade said:
Just be happy SE did somthing beneficial at the same time. RNG didnt get an upgrade along with our nerf. Your jug pets no longer count towards exp loss, the price of which will probably go down now that they're easier to obtain materials for, AND your Reward ability now adds a regen.

Lvl up that NIN sub on BST guys, BST/NIN with an HQ jug pet is more damage than a warrior when added together. And now that jug pet doesnt cut from party exp, so theres no reason not to EXP in a normal party now.

"just gotta find new tactics" "you'll adapt in time" "Oh boo hoo, live with it" The phrases said to the rangers now being said to the Beastmasters. Welcome to the club, pull up a chair, and we can all be nerfed together.

I'm not going to turn this into a flame so I'll simply say. Jug pets only hurt BST's exp in pt pre-nerf.
 
Moriki said:
BST have crabs.

LOL! Best post of thread so far, made me giggle.

Oh, I just started BST and raised it to 17 so far, after much struggle, and after this I feel slightly demotivated... I was planning to raise it up to 60+ still am really, but reading how upset most BST's are, it really isnt too good.
 
Mattaru said:
I'm not going to turn this into a flame so I'll simply say. Jug pets only hurt BST's exp in pt pre-nerf.

yeah, but average melee #435443 didnt know that. Now they do.

I've been exping with BSTs for a long time, and they do quite comperable damage to a warrior.
 
At 56, we can use Wrath Tabar (45dmg). That's the highest DMG axe til 68. And will anyone care? Nope.

Jug pets no longer hurt exp...good for them. They hit like low DCs at best, so they're only good in areas where you EXP on the weakest mobs in the zone (i.e. when you first enter Boyahda Tree).

Reward gives more hp..and Regen. Again, good for it. It restores enough to buffer 3-5 hits and the Regen is crap.

In the end, this is like them saying you lost both of your legs in the war, but on the plus side you got some spiffy-looking shoes for your birthday.
 
I think SE are trying to corner BST into being more 'social', you now have to PT to lvl, and you now have to interact with crafters for the jugs. I wander if this was SEs ideas and motivation behind these changes, to force BST into becoming a more active part amoung the social community.
 
The 2hr thing I never had a problem with, but the subtle blow is pretty ace.

I think maybe BST aught have Familiar changed into a 20min thing also, maybe when used a buncha random animals appear and fuck the enemy up.
 
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