Question to the PUP's

[Bajaratt]

I've noticed several pup's subbing NIN, and I'd like to know why. Admittedly, my understanding of PUP is really limited, but from what I understand, they're basically weak monks with a pet.

If that's the case, what could /nin possibly provide to the job? Subbing NIN weakens monk, but it can increase their survivability because they generate so much hate. PUP's on the other hand, have C skill in hand to hand, so there's no way they're pulling hate on their own, so the sole benefit from /NIN would never be needed.

Can someone who's leveled the job explain why they're subbing something that I can't see any benefit to subbing? Is there something I'm missing, or are they all caught up in the /NIN craze?

 

[Claxton]

They're subbing ninja because they don't want to level another sub. Or morons.

 

[Bajaratt]

They're subbing ninja because they don't want to level another sub. Or morons.

Some of them I know have other subs available to them though, so that first reason probably isn't why. The second one, might be true.

 

[Eulore]

It's either because they're soloing, unfathomably dumb, or... wait lolpup!

 

[Pompidou]

Everybody subs ninja. You don't need a reason. Half the people who sub it are worse off for the decision, but it doesn't matter. Sub it because it's ninja, and forget pt effectiveness. Maybe they thought subbing ninja would give them four arms like a Mortal Kombat Goro and they could use two pairs of H2H glove weapons?

 

[K. Ishitar]

they are gimp even though thats a hypocritcal statement coming from me=)

pups are good dd but need really good gear imho only pted with one pup and she was doing great

 

[Pasquale]

for the eleven levels i leveled lolpup, I subbed Monk. No other sub really made sense, aside from possibly whm, but i figured mnk would be better dmg wise. When I hit 12 with PUP, my MNK sub will be gimp, so I probably won't lvl PUP anymore, despite the fact that I've already wasted a ton of gil buying parts and a new body.

 

[Bajaratt]

for the eleven levels i leveled lolpup, I subbed Monk. No other sub really made sense, aside from possibly whm, but i figured mnk would be better dmg wise. When I hit 12 with PUP, my MNK sub will be gimp, so I probably won't lvl PUP anymore, despite the fact that I've already wasted a ton of gil buying parts and a new body.

Why would monk help out? The Martial arts traits wouldn't stack, and you'd have to wait to 10+ to get boost.

 

[K. Ishitar]

actually I didnt know that pup got martial arts i think thats why many subbed mnk for that

 

[Windy]

Mnk is the best sub for... any job up till 10+.. the HP and Vit from it are very useful. Even makes leveling mages via high dmg weaps easier.
Meat Mithkabobs + Selbina Milk = win

Beyond that, I know nothing of pup.. I would assume /whm (due to all mage gear) or /war to help theyr horribly gimped DD abilities.

 

[Pasquale]

Why would monk help out? The Martial arts traits wouldn't stack, and you'd have to wait to 10+ to get boost.

lol no real reason, other than both PUP and MNK use hand-2-hand. I thought maybe it would make me suck less?

 

[Tagrineth]

/WHM is better for jobs before level 10.

PUPs only sub /NIN because they're retarded.

 

[Lanien]

Why would monk help out? The Martial arts traits wouldn't stack, and you'd have to wait to 10+ to get boost.

PUP doesn't get Martial Arts 1 until 25 I believe.

 

[Windy]

/WHM is better for jobs before level 10.

PUPs only sub /NIN because they're retarded.

Disagree'd. Selbina milk and a potion or two on spare does far moe than having to rest a dozen times. I never stop from 1-10 on any job to rest and everything but blm kept chains for it. 1-10 in 1 sitting is very simple. I understand your point, so let me rephrase.

If you are cheap and lazy, sub whm.
~.^

 

[Bajaratt]

PUP doesn't get Martial Arts 1 until 25 I believe.

Wow, PUP sucks worse than I thought; that explains /mnk though.

There's been enough "they're idiots" from everyone who haven't leveled the job; something I would have guessed without this thread. What I wanted was some PUP's to post and say why they're subbing nin, even if they just say "I'm an idiot" or something that's already been covered.

 

[K. Ishitar]

PUP doesn't get Martial Arts 1 until 25 I believe.

wow thats retarded someone needs to be cockslaped for doing that

 

[Pasquale]

Windy's right. Subbing /whm is good for what, 3 cures? That's hardly worth resting for. Selbina Milk ftw.

 

[Bajaratt]

Windy's right. Subbing /whm is good for what, 3 cures? That's hardly worth resting for. Selbina Milk ftw.

1 hp/tick isn't all that great, but with a single tick of resting for mp, you can cure 20+ hp.

Anyways, stick to the topic :biggrin:

 

[K. Ishitar]

1 hp/tick isn't all that great, but with a single tick of resting for mp, you can cure 20+ hp.

Anyways, stick to the topic :biggrin:

you wont find many(read:if any) that will advocate /nin and post on QCDN since everyone is mostly 75 x 3 jobs and knows better=P

 

[Lanien]

I leveled PUP to 25 and I tried subbing several different things. I believe I did /MNK most of the time. The Boosts helped a bit, and MA1 helped too. I tried /DRG for Jumps later on for TP. I did the /WHM thing, but my Elvaan MP pool was enough for like 2 cures lol

I really have no idea why they would sub NIN. Duel-wield does nothing for H2H. And with the right attachments, the pet would be doing more damage especially if using the ranged attack automaton. You wouldn't have a need for shadows since you wouldn't be getting hit. Kind of a waste of a sub.