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Cross-post from Pimps forum. I'm sure many of you are already well into the R600 knowledge, but for those who aren't...

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Welcome to the R600, ATI's next mammoth. Nvidia will supposedly have their faster revision of the G80 core out before the R600 lands, but there has been precious little evidence to show that Nvidia will stand a chance against this near-nuclear GPU.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_R600

Summary: up to 4gb onboard 2.5ghz GDDR4 memory (capable of up to 160gb/sec bandwidth, current GPUs cap at ~85gb/sec). 720 million transistors - roughly 3x the amount in an Intel quad-core CPU. GPU clock supposedly capable of up to 2ghz, compared to modern GPUs which have yet to break 900mhz out of the factory. First wave due in April, higher-end parts due in late May. Pics below.


Architectural highlights
  • Core working frequency ranging at 700 MHz to 800 MHz (revision A12 silicon), to over 2 GHz (revision A15 silicon which is in development).
  • The R600 will feature support for the GDDR3 and GDDR4 memory interface.
    Bandwidth may range from 115.2 GB/s (using 1.0 ns GDDR3 at 2000 MHz) to 140.8 GB/s (0.9 ns GDDR4) up to a rumoured 153.6 GB/s (using 2.4 GHz GDDR4) or 160.0 GB/s (using 2.5 GHz GDDR4).
  • 1 GB and rumored up to 4 GB on board GDDR3 or GDDR4 RAM (see the variants section) working frequencies higher than effective memory clock speeds of X1950 XTX of 2.0 GHz to a rumoured 2.4 GHz.
  • Support of Quad-GPU/4-card setup as written in R600 driver and details were leaked to web.

Miscellaneous board specifications
  • 12-layer PCB design, the thickest of all current graphics cards.
  • R600 is the heaviest graphic card ever.
  • R600 will support video-in and video-out functions.

Coolers
  • High-end models of R600 will feature a dual-slot air cooler (designed to dissipate 250 Watts power) and a large heatsink with 4 heatpipes, operating at 240-270 Watts.
  • The high-end R600 will use dual-slot air cooler as stock cooler, and is reported that an air-water hybrid cooler which incorporates a pump on the cooler is in development stage.
  • It is reported that there will be single-slot air coolers for the rest of the R600 series, for the middle-end and low-end models.
  • The water cooler, the VapoChill system from Asetek, will feature Vapour Chamber Technology, it's likely the VapoChill Micro cooler will feature in R600 water cooled cards.


Anonymously submitted photos of what is presumed to be the X2900XTX:

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Dual power inputs:

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Dual-slot:

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My heart is still fluttering. This is f-cking ridiculous. It's like the 9700 all over again.

Any Nvidia fanboys got details on their competitive release, if they have one?
 
Claiming $599USD MSRP. Expect 700-1k CDN.
 
I <3 Ati. My 9200SE might be old as hell but it still working new games XD (but I really need upgrades x.x)
 
ATI or bust.
 
I might hold off on my 8800 and wait to see what these cards can do, BTW HALF of my PC is now on some purilator truck in Moncton and on it way to me tomorrow /spunk
 
spec is great... but do you really need that like now?, unless you want it for Crysis but other then that, is totally waste of money, just wait 2 years

Aither said:
I might hold off on my 8800 and wait to see what these cards can do, BTW HALF of my PC is now on some purilator truck in Moncton and on it way to me tomorrow /spunk
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I'm not taking on any side, i'm neither Nvidia Fan or AMD/ATI fan, just speaking out what will be better to get from a person's opinion

Get 8800, no need for R600

Waste of gil, and the power of that card doesn't need it for another year or 2, no games atm other then crysis need an ultra high-end graphic card.
2 years from now, better newer and powerful one then R600, and by that time, R600 is less then $250

If i was building myself a computer, i will look into the future, i will think how long i'll be using this without being too gimped in 2years

save yourself some money and go for 8800

shop smart, and don't shop for just because the way it perform
 
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If it's going to be $700.ooUSD, it will cost $110 more in Canada.

There is some truth to what you say Vandoura, getting an R600 too soon won't show face for awhile. I'm sure there will be games that take advantage of the R600's pixel shading capabilities in shorter time than we'd think. Maybe we'll see a breakthrough in real time lighting techniques that were never possible before, and these settings will be set aside for the R600 and future GPU's above it.

Personally i'm all for the R600. Until GPUs can handle photo realistic CG work in real time with insane poly counts, all GPUs are not good enough, and the R600 definatly is todays top of the line.
 
Vandoura said:
spec is great... but do you really need that like now?, unless you want it for Crysis but other then that, is totally waste of money, just wait 2 years
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If you had a penis you'd understand.
 
Wow. And here I was getting ready to buy an nVidia card once I got the money to take my system to PCIe. Good thing it's going to be a little while for me.
 
It's an awesome card for sure... But you need a monstrous case it looks like and I wouldn't be surprised if keeping it cool is a mighty task.

Also, isn't Vandoura part right? I'm no computer genius, just know some advanced stuff, but games that aren't DX10 can't fully use the 8800 power?
 
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Any card out today can be taxed. Fire up a heavy game (example, Oblivion or anything that uses the UE3 engine) at 8xAA 16xAF at a screen res of 2560x1600.

As for the R600... it should be invincible for a couple months. But it won't last.
 
i came.

that damn card will be IN my hard drive bays. 14"long wtfark.

crysis or bust!

im out
 
Vandoura said:
spec is great... but do you really need that like now?, unless you want it for Crysis but other then that, is totally waste of money, just wait 2 years



I'm not taking on any side, i'm neither Nvidia Fan or AMD/ATI fan, just speaking out what will be better to get from a person's opinion

Get 8800, no need for R600

Waste of gil, and the power of that card doesn't need it for another year or 2, no games atm other then crysis need an ultra high-end graphic card.
2 years from now, better newer and powerful one then R600, and by that time, R600 is less then $250

If i was building myself a computer, i will look into the future, i will think how long i'll be using this without being too gimped in 2years

save yourself some money and go for 8800

shop smart, and don't shop for just because the way it perform
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lol wait wait, did you just tell someone to shop smart by buying a slightly cheaper card that is just as useful as the top of the line card-to-end-all-cards? The 8800 is also a waste if you look at it from that perspective.
 
I think she's sad that her Alienware is gonna be ownz'd seven ways to Sunday in 2 months.
 
It's been roumored that game developers recieved versions of the R600. It wouldn't surprise me if most PC games were being optomized for Radeon technology on the DX10.

There is word about R700's release early in the 1st quarter of 2008. I can't imagine the R600 being challenged by commercial releases, even after a year has passed.
 
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