/random at king camp wipes

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Courtney said:
It's the linkshell that won't cooperate that's the problem, and considering that at least three linkshells have attempted mpks in the Aery in the past week, there seems very little chance that they'd accept the outcome of a /random.
Which three Linkshells are you talking about?
 
Genisus Union and Integrals (formally JDA, and what i will refer to them as out of habbit) are the two that i know of. GU MPKed us 2 nidhoggs ago, managed to make a flail happen because someone had forgot that zoning made blockaid go down... JDA tried to MPK NobleKnights, wasn't at that particular camp myself though so i cannot really tell you how. I'm not sure of the third LS Court is refering to...

Some in JDA think they were MPKed at the last Nidhogg, but i don't think thats the case... I saw one of their bards running behind it right before it started moving, and some in the LS say that it was one of the inparty RDMs who caused the flail. /shrug. If court is talking about a different incident than that one... the number of MPK attempts, and potentially shells involved, could go up to 4... well, if you think JDA was MPKed that is.

Than there is the history of MPK in the past. QuestFantasy used to MPK anyone who countered them at Xolotl... though they are mostly only active at less popular NMs, so the chances of having to /random with them, would be slim. HNMPT has a history of MPK, though that history is pretty old.. maybe Kurei isn't doing/allowing that anymore... and its been a while since i saw them at any camps, so maybe they are not even active atm.

On top of those two, there are the RMT LSs who show up at Behemoth sometimes... they have yet to win against KB, but that day will come at some point, which would mean that they would acutally matter in a /radom rule situation.
 
Thanks Nasya. As you may know the LS I am in has just recently started camping and I just wanted to make sure that the LS was not being grouped in with the MPK attempts.

I was at the last Nidhogg and it did appear to me that JDA also had members attacking Nid from behind.
 
I was intentionally not naming names as this isn't the place to get into a flaming match. Hopefully the actions of the third shell were a one off, or possibly an action by an individual in the shell that won't be repeated.

The point I was making was that while multiple shells are willing to MPK (some at every camp) that there is no point in trying to coordinate a /random for a wiping fight when several shells there are actively causing the wipes...
 
yeah, perhaps all the posts regarding the random rule should be split into a seperate thread. '-'
 
well i am not sure when we tried to MPK noblesknight (Basso), therefore i do not what to discuss about that
Our last 2 Nidhogg spike flail us, 1 was because of GenesisUnion (the asshat Dreadnought) and this week. This week's nidhogg most thought was MPK but after checking, some believe it was a member's positioning and i believe people in the main alliance saw that person moving around. Either way, the consequence sucks for us
Since our ls was reformed into a new ls, I have yet to see any of us MPK. I have been in most camps till recently due to RL obiligation as an university student. Well again, due to this fact, I can't say we as Integralis haven't MPK but I believe we haven't
As an End-game player, I believe what goes around comes around. Meaning to say if we start mpk-ing, others will do the same to us. And if other ls mpk us, obviously we will return their MPK.
In my opinion, camping these NMs for 30mins till 3+hours is already frustating enough. Why still MPK after all these updates? This will only result to a more stressful End-game enviroment. If one can't claim, try harder the next or pray for wipes lmao.
 
Tomato, your members have been casting on the claiming alliance at nearly all of the Fafnir fights in the past week. The NobleKnights claim was three? days ago, and it happened repeatedly (which is why you were taking wing damage).

I know you don't play that way, but a number of your members don't have the same reservations.
 
well i wasn't there 3 days ago lol
that is why i said i can't entirely defend the ls but again when i am there, we usually back off.
i will admit there was once where i was in main alliance and a member accidentally cure the claimed ls. He was asked to log out so that the alliance doesn't get hate and dmg and not do that shit. That happened only once when i was still active at HNM hunts.
Again I can't justify those acts you have describe Courtney. My friends said nope. Who to believe? All i know is that when i am there, we don't do this shit. I was told today someone from another ls (not us) was curing Perseverence today too. Not sure what was that person's intention. Anyway i'm not going to play pointing fingers.
Like i said, I only wish for a MPK-Free HNM enviroment hehe. camping 3+ hours is enough stress and pressure for me haha
 
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lolheideggerafkclaimedfafnirtoday, that and things like GU trying to MPK every time they show up are why NA to JP relations are pretty bad...

And I dont think any gives a fuck about /random at kings, most would be happy with just not having to worry about getting MPKed every time a person doesnt instantly put blockaid up after joining alliance.
 
have at it, the other thread got derailed. ill start off with of the last posts in the other derailed thread.
 
I really don't see a possibility of a /random being cooperative. I think it would only really work if there were only 2 LS camping khnm, which is a far out thought and rare to occur.

The past I'm not familiar with, however it's easy to realize the impact left on some people who hold grudges. I know people who don't like Kurei at all...which I have a hard time believing because of my knowledge of the past. Since I joined that LS, for the Fafhogg's I participated in were never very smooth. People would make a lot of mistakes and sometimes we didn't have a strong setup. Wiping on Nidhogg was one thing, we never killed him or atleast I wasn't there if it happened...So Kurei called it quits on that last mistake on Fafnir and called for help. Another Darter missclaimed by a RDM who later left the shell. We haven't been there since that day. Possibly returning but we don't have enough active members.
During that time I didn't notice any MPKing. We were always told to keep /blockaid up while in the pit and to stand back during the fights if we didn't claim (though not everyone listens). One time I recall Decidence solo claimed Faf, disengaged and Jsoft claimed...he then died and Scwall, Kiiro, myself and a few others claimed it. Kurei made it pretty apparent this was not allowed, as we lost the initial pop claim. Tank party teleports, blm party escapes, and melee/blm party I'm in goes to tele-holla.
At KB, everyone is told to stay at (F-7) if we lose the initial claim. Basically courteous not to lag the other LS. I find it strange however, he'll even do this for JDA when I know he really doesn't like them. If the LS wipes he'll go for claim, I've never seen anyone in our LS cast a spell on/provoke a KB that blinks yellow. A while ago Purpose claimed and brought it down to around 20%? I think? Until it looked like they were wiping (still had a few people up) and Outterheaven took it when it went unclaimed. They ended up wiping at 1% and Kurei took it.
At the last KB, RMT managed to claim it initially. They disengaged right away and Kurei grabbed it. He cares for RMT about as much as we do.

I really don't see HNMPT becoming very active with Fafhogg again or anytime soon. An account mishap happened with a blm of ours, members have left for jda, friends taking a break from HNMs, friends taking a break from the game, and Kurei has some sort of school/maybe college. We only camp KB and rarely claim nq's nowadays...The last defending ring went to another PLD, Cuester. Kurei was at school >< Since then he hasn't been as active, but didn't seem mad either. Showed up for the next KB.

Atm we have enough for KB, but not enough for Fafhogg.

Just from that history there, I can say our LS would never /random for KB/any NM. Only with our sky LS to see who pops Kirin first lol.
 
I think getting the claim is most of the thrill. I wouldn't want to see this and it wouldn't work.
~Foofighter
 
Zoolander said:
lolheideggerafkclaimedfafnirtoday, that and things like GU trying to MPK every time they show up are why NA to JP relations are pretty bad...

lolthatsreallyinteresting:roll:

Zoolander said:
And I dont think any gives a fuck about /random at kings, most would be happy with just not having to worry about getting MPKed every time a person doesnt instantly put blockaid up after joining alliance.

yes.
 
Yea Heid provoking while afk was interesting >.> But according to them all (JDA) he was never in the pt to begin with. Interesting how he got hate and died though if he wasnt in a pt at the start. He must have had a fluke fly that just felt the urge to attack only him while he was standing there. I guess it was hate galka day in the fly World of one.
 
People MPK'ing and especially botting is the reason I don't like HNM. That and how incredibly boring it is to sit and wait a few hours just to be outclaimed by a botter ;p
 
Here ya go:

lolheidegger.jpg


Note who is #3 on that list? There's no way he could've voked if he weren't in pt, rofl. lolafkbot.
 
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Heidegger isn't Heidegger anymore
 
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